2016 MSU Recruiting - 37 (13 Full/3 Part./12 PWO/9 Tranfers)

[Colter_Nuanez]

I've had a bit of a hard time connecting with several of the verbal commits to do stories but finally got a hold of several of them this week so I'll have a few more commitment stories soon. I'll have a story on Anthony Pegues and Jered Padmos by the weekend.

Charter Oak CB Damien Washington commits to Montana State
http://skylinesportsmt.com/charter-oak- ... ana-state/

[NewEra]

For those who have really paid attention to recruiting this year...vim, Colter and anyone else who has insight. Who are the recruits that we have offers to that would be the gems of the class if they committed. I have paid attention to the recruiting board but I just don't have the time/overall knowledge on how to break down someone's film to determine how good they could be other than purely looking at stats which don't paint the whole picture. I know Neale was a huge addition but who else are within his caliber that we have offered?

[VimSince03]

Alex Neale will be starting classes on Wednesday. The former 3-star UNLV lineman is officially a Bobcat.

[VimSince03]

The other "boom" from the weekend was most likely Tyler Bruggman, the JC QB. His just hasn't been confirmed. But if you connect the Twitter dots, he has committed.

[wbtfg]

http://msubobcats.com/news/2016/1/10/FB_0110162822.aspx

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[LongTimeCatFan]

http://msubobcats.com/news/2016/1/10/FB_0110162822.aspx

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That settles that.

Thank you

[Colter_Nuanez]

Bobcats add quarterback Tyler Bruggman, center Alex Neale as mid-year transfers
http://skylinesportsmt.com/bobcats-add- ... to-roster/

[TomCat88]

http://msubobcats.com/news/2016/1/10/FB_0110162822.aspx

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Promising stat:

He gained steam as the season progressed after two seasons out of competition, completing 62-of-106 passes (58.5%) for 677 yards with 10 touchdowns and three interceptions in the final four games.

I also didn't realize Neale got "significant" playing time last season.

[Hawks86]

Could someone explain

Montana State fortified the core of its offense Sunday when Choate announced the signing of quarterback Tyler Bruggman to a National Letter-of-Intent and center Alex Neale to a financial aid agreement.

[BigBruceBaker]

Could someone explain

Montana State fortified the core of its offense Sunday when Choate announced the signing of quarterback Tyler Bruggman to a National Letter-of-Intent and center Alex Neale to a financial aid agreement.

No. Because that doesn't make much sense.

It also says both will be registered for spring semester so I have no idea why Bruggman is signing a NOI.



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[wbtfg]

I think this is nli season for jc recruits.

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[TomCat88]

I think this is nli season for jc recruits.

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Yes. December 16, 2015 - January 15, 2016.

[VimSince03]

One of our top QB recruits will be in town this weekend, Chris Murray.

cmurray12 ‏@valens10101 12h12 hours ago
Next weekend I will be in Bozeman for my visit at Montana State. #BeatTheSkyOwnTheState

[VimSince03]

For those who have really paid attention to recruiting this year...vim, Colter and anyone else who has insight. Who are the recruits that we have offers to that would be the gems of the class if they committed. I have paid attention to the recruiting board but I just don't have the time/overall knowledge on how to break down someone's film to determine how good they could be other than purely looking at stats which don't paint the whole picture. I know Neale was a huge addition but who else are within his caliber that we have offered?

If you wanna break it down by "stars", here is who I think would be the top gets at each position:

Blake Gregory 6'3", 170 lbs. QB WA Sammamish (2-star)
Theo Dawson 6'2", 222 lbs. RB WY Jackson (2-star) (Wyoming Player of the Year)
John Okwoli 6'3", 205 lbs. WR AZ Phoenix (3-star)
Edward Vander 6'0", 210 lbs. ATH-RB CA Paramount (3-star)
Kayode Awosika 6'5", 255 lbs. OT MN Maple Grove (2-star)
Steven Bailey 6'2", 295 lbs. OG AZ Peoria (2-star)
Omar Dyles 6'1", 285 lbs. DT WA Bellevue (2-star)
Lewis Kidd 6'6", 255 lbs. DE MN Fridley (2-star)
Ryan Bowman 6'1", 248 lbs. Hybrid - DE/LB FL Bradenton (3-star)
Jeremiah Pritchard 6'0", 210 lbs. OLB HI Wahiawa (3-star)
Ryan Boehm 6'3", 225 lbs. MLB CA Temecula (3-star)
Andrew Davis 6'0", 164 lbs. CB CA Upland (3-star)
Kamari Pleasant 6'2", 185 lbs. SS CA Etiwanda (3-star)
Jordan Happle 6'1", 190 lbs. FS OR Portland (2-star)

If we get any of these kids, they would be huge additions. Now that being said, the deepest talent pools in terms of who we have offered is on the DL and OL. The defensive line is spread between the bigger defensive ends and the hybird OLB/DE types. The offensive line is incredibly deep with two-star talent. It will be a fun three weeks.

[bobcat99]

*insert grumpy rant about how stars don't mean much at this level of football*



That's why I like you though Vim. You look at the film and make judgments rather than just looking at their "ranking".

[VimSince03]

*insert grumpy rant about how stars don't mean much at this level of football*



That's why I like you though Vim. You look at the film and make judgments rather than just looking at their "ranking".

Yeah I wouldn't put too much stock into star ratings. One kid can be a three-star on scout.com and not even receive recognition on another site. Watch the film, watch for technique and effort, and then make the judgement.

[RobertCats]

For those who have really paid attention to recruiting this year...vim, Colter and anyone else who has insight. Who are the recruits that we have offers to that would be the gems of the class if they committed. I have paid attention to the recruiting board but I just don't have the time/overall knowledge on how to break down someone's film to determine how good they could be other than purely looking at stats which don't paint the whole picture. I know Neale was a huge addition but who else are within his caliber that we have offered?

If you wanna break it down by "stars", here is who I think would be the top gets at each position:

Blake Gregory 6'3", 170 lbs. QB WA Sammamish (2-star)
Theo Dawson 6'2", 222 lbs. RB WY Jackson (2-star) (Wyoming Player of the Year)
John Okwoli 6'3", 205 lbs. WR AZ Phoenix (3-star)
Edward Vander 6'0", 210 lbs. ATH-RB CA Paramount (3-star)
Kayode Awosika 6'5", 255 lbs. OT MN Maple Grove (2-star)
Steven Bailey 6'2", 295 lbs. OG AZ Peoria (2-star)
Omar Dyles 6'1", 285 lbs. DT WA Bellevue (2-star)
Lewis Kidd 6'6", 255 lbs. DE MN Fridley (2-star)
Ryan Bowman 6'1", 248 lbs. Hybrid - DE/LB FL Bradenton (3-star)
Jeremiah Pritchard 6'0", 210 lbs. OLB HI Wahiawa (3-star)
Ryan Boehm 6'3", 225 lbs. MLB CA Temecula (3-star)
Andrew Davis 6'0", 164 lbs. CB CA Upland (3-star)
Kamari Pleasant 6'2", 185 lbs. SS CA Etiwanda (3-star)
Jordan Happle 6'1", 190 lbs. FS OR Portland (2-star)

If we get any of these kids, they would be huge additions. Now that being said, the deepest talent pools in terms of who we have offered is on the DL and OL. The defensive line is spread between the bigger defensive ends and the hybird OLB/DE types. The offensive line is incredibly deep with two-star talent. It will be a fun three weeks.

You like Gregory over Murray? I think both are being under recruited but I am shocked Murray doesn't have bigger offers. He is a GREAT athlete and seems to have very good size. Might have a little bit of an elongated throwing motion but still puts the ball on the money and has good arm strength. Saw the dude outrun entire teams several times on his tape and a 10 minute film on his highlights his senior year!!!!!! What is the knock on him do you know? Seems like the stands were small and empty so maybe a "lack of competition" coming from a smaller CA school?

That being said, Gregory looks like he will be a great college QB too, I would be thrilled with either one.

[JDoub]

One of our top QB recruits will be in town this weekend, Chris Murray.

cmurray12 ‏@valens10101 12h12 hours ago
Next weekend I will be in Bozeman for my visit at Montana State. #BeatTheSkyOwnTheState

That's an impressive highlight reel

True duel-threat, tall, fast, long-strider 4.5 speed, can throw 70% completion rate, ran for ~1300 yds and 14 TD's in a tough CIF league, more illusive than DP. Could be interesting. What you don't see in the highlights could be telling -- he only threw for 1600 yds but 19 TD's against 7 ints, yet averaged 17 ypc -- can he throw in coverage and under pressure? just don't see it on the hudl. Lawndale HS ran well, over 3400 yds for the season and they had two 1200+ yd rushers including Murray, the other kid had almost 1500 yds. Looks like that run game set up the long ball for Murray, which he threw well.

side note: it's nice to see a high school run under center, out of a pro set, pistol and gun, zone read -- to have that all in their arsenal.

If we do get Murray, my gut is suspicious that we're recruiting for Oregon/USC or another Pac12 school in the future. Criminal Justice degree in 3 yrs and off he goes. guess I'm jaded

[VimSince03]

For those who have really paid attention to recruiting this year...vim, Colter and anyone else who has insight. Who are the recruits that we have offers to that would be the gems of the class if they committed. I have paid attention to the recruiting board but I just don't have the time/overall knowledge on how to break down someone's film to determine how good they could be other than purely looking at stats which don't paint the whole picture. I know Neale was a huge addition but who else are within his caliber that we have offered?

If you wanna break it down by "stars", here is who I think would be the top gets at each position:

Blake Gregory 6'3", 170 lbs. QB WA Sammamish (2-star)
Theo Dawson 6'2", 222 lbs. RB WY Jackson (2-star) (Wyoming Player of the Year)
John Okwoli 6'3", 205 lbs. WR AZ Phoenix (3-star)
Edward Vander 6'0", 210 lbs. ATH-RB CA Paramount (3-star)
Kayode Awosika 6'5", 255 lbs. OT MN Maple Grove (2-star)
Steven Bailey 6'2", 295 lbs. OG AZ Peoria (2-star)
Omar Dyles 6'1", 285 lbs. DT WA Bellevue (2-star)
Lewis Kidd 6'6", 255 lbs. DE MN Fridley (2-star)
Ryan Bowman 6'1", 248 lbs. Hybrid - DE/LB FL Bradenton (3-star)
Jeremiah Pritchard 6'0", 210 lbs. OLB HI Wahiawa (3-star)
Ryan Boehm 6'3", 225 lbs. MLB CA Temecula (3-star)
Andrew Davis 6'0", 164 lbs. CB CA Upland (3-star)
Kamari Pleasant 6'2", 185 lbs. SS CA Etiwanda (3-star)
Jordan Happle 6'1", 190 lbs. FS OR Portland (2-star)

If we get any of these kids, they would be huge additions. Now that being said, the deepest talent pools in terms of who we have offered is on the DL and OL. The defensive line is spread between the bigger defensive ends and the hybird OLB/DE types. The offensive line is incredibly deep with two-star talent. It will be a fun three weeks.

You like Gregory over Murray? I think both are being under recruited but I am shocked Murray doesn't have bigger offers. He is a GREAT athlete and seems to have very good size. Might have a little bit of an elongated throwing motion but still puts the ball on the money and has good arm strength. Saw the dude outrun entire teams several times on his tape and a 10 minute film on his highlights his senior year!!!!!! What is the knock on him do you know? Seems like the stands were small and empty so maybe a "lack of competition" coming from a smaller CA school?

That being said, Gregory looks like he will be a great college QB too, I would be thrilled with either one.

No clue. I was kind of shooting from the hip with Gregory as the top one. The other three offered could be just as good. So hard to tell with quarterbacks because there is so much more that goes into the position than just high school tape. Intangibles are things that can't be accurately shown on tape.

[Bozcat003]

For those who have really paid attention to recruiting this year...vim, Colter and anyone else who has insight. Who are the recruits that we have offers to that would be the gems of the class if they committed. I have paid attention to the recruiting board but I just don't have the time/overall knowledge on how to break down someone's film to determine how good they could be other than purely looking at stats which don't paint the whole picture. I know Neale was a huge addition but who else are within his caliber that we have offered?

If you wanna break it down by "stars", here is who I think would be the top gets at each position:

Blake Gregory 6'3", 170 lbs. QB WA Sammamish (2-star)
Theo Dawson 6'2", 222 lbs. RB WY Jackson (2-star) (Wyoming Player of the Year)
John Okwoli 6'3", 205 lbs. WR AZ Phoenix (3-star)
Edward Vander 6'0", 210 lbs. ATH-RB CA Paramount (3-star)
Kayode Awosika 6'5", 255 lbs. OT MN Maple Grove (2-star)
Steven Bailey 6'2", 295 lbs. OG AZ Peoria (2-star)
Omar Dyles 6'1", 285 lbs. DT WA Bellevue (2-star)
Lewis Kidd 6'6", 255 lbs. DE MN Fridley (2-star)
Ryan Bowman 6'1", 248 lbs. Hybrid - DE/LB FL Bradenton (3-star)
Jeremiah Pritchard 6'0", 210 lbs. OLB HI Wahiawa (3-star)
Ryan Boehm 6'3", 225 lbs. MLB CA Temecula (3-star)
Andrew Davis 6'0", 164 lbs. CB CA Upland (3-star)
Kamari Pleasant 6'2", 185 lbs. SS CA Etiwanda (3-star)
Jordan Happle 6'1", 190 lbs. FS OR Portland (2-star)

If we get any of these kids, they would be huge additions. Now that being said, the deepest talent pools in terms of who we have offered is on the DL and OL. The defensive line is spread between the bigger defensive ends and the hybird OLB/DE types. The offensive line is incredibly deep with two-star talent. It will be a fun three weeks.

You like Gregory over Murray? I think both are being under recruited but I am shocked Murray doesn't have bigger offers. He is a GREAT athlete and seems to have very good size. Might have a little bit of an elongated throwing motion but still puts the ball on the money and has good arm strength. Saw the dude outrun entire teams several times on his tape and a 10 minute film on his highlights his senior year!!!!!! What is the knock on him do you know? Seems like the stands were small and empty so maybe a "lack of competition" coming from a smaller CA school?

That being said, Gregory looks like he will be a great college QB too, I would be thrilled with either one.

I'd be happy with either one, and I think we may land Murray this weekend . . . however to me Murray is the better athlete while Gregory is the better quarterback. Murray rarely stayed in the pocket. He would look at the first guy, and if he wasn't open he would take off . . . that wasn't always the case but happened enough. Gregory is a little more polished at this point. With that said, either one would be a fantastic quarterback and would add even more of a battle come fall camp.

I will say this about Murray, at 6-4, he has fantastic speed and if he can get some good coaching may turn into an amazing QB in the Big Sky . . . Murray has a very high ceiling.