Wbb loses to msu-b

[TrueCat]

I am not looking for an argument, I am just bringing up the question. Huse has made the BSC tourney each year he has coached at MSU. Trish has lost players along the way as well (but I think that is more of the state of college hoops, more than anything). I am just bringing up the fact that neither team whould lose the a DII school. I was at the game, seemed like Trish was out coached.

[ilovethecats]

I am not looking for an argument, I am just bringing up the question. Huse has made the BSC tourney each year he has coached at MSU. Trish has lost players along the way as well (but I think that is more of the state of college hoops, more than anything). I am just bringing up the fact that neither team whould lose the a DII school. I was at the game, seemed like Trish was out coached.

that is what i'm hearing. that happens from time to time. even coach k and coach pitino get outcoached from time to time. i agree the women shouldn't have lost this game. but i think it's a huge disservice to the womens program saying they are the same as the mens program right now. this might be the worst state of affairs i have seen the mens team in the last 30+ years. our program is just terrible right now. binford has had 4 winning seasons and 1 season at .500. huse has had 1 winning season (15-14) and 1 season at .500. i guess i'm just failing to see how both teams are basically the same to you.

[Old Skool Cat]

I am not looking for an argument, I am just bringing up the question. Huse has made the BSC tourney each year he has coached at MSU. Trish has lost players along the way as well (but I think that is more of the state of college hoops, more than anything). I am just bringing up the fact that neither team whould lose the a DII school. I was at the game, seemed like Trish was out coached.

Minor correction -- Huse did not make the tourney in his first year as head coach (2006/2007).

[TrueCat]

Oh, I am not saying that they are neck and neck. What I am saying is that they are not as far apart as people percieve.

OSK - Thanks for the correction

[TrueCat]

Oops, meant OSC - Thanks for the correction

[Old Skool Cat]

Oops, meant OSC - Thanks for the correction

Oops myself, as I stand corrected. Huse did get the team to the BSC tourney in his first season, losing to Portland State. So I believe you were correct the first time True, that Huse has made the tourney in each of his seasons.

[ilovethecats]

Oh, I am not saying that they are neck and neck. What I am saying is that they are not as far apart as people percieve.

well i'm not sure about people's perceptions. again, i think it boils down to what i said originally that people just don't care about womens hoops as much as mens hoops. so when the mens team is down...they're REALLY down. when the womens team is down....most seem to not care. i agree that it's not like the womens team is wining conerence titles left and right. they haven't won one. but they're usually in the mix and right around 3rd in the conference year after year. huse is usually 5th or 6th.

my guess is if huse was having the exact success as binford, most of us wouldn't be ecstatic about it....but we wouldn't expect him to lose his job either.

sad truth is more scrutiny comes with the mens job than the womens job at almost every university in the country.

[TrueCat]

You make a valid point. I just look at the programs and see that they are not too far apart, but their structures are totally different.

WBB:
- Consistent asst. coaches
- 4 year students
- In-state kids

MBB:
-Asst. turnover
- JC transfers
- Not as many in-state

[grizzh8r]

You make a valid point. I just look at the programs and see that they are not too far apart, but their structures are totally different.

WBB:
- Consistent asst. coaches
- 4 year students
- In-state kids

MBB:
-Asst. turnover
- JC transfers
- Not as many in-state

Let me ask you this... Have you attended any games of both teams in the past 6 years or so? If not, then you have no room to comment. I haven't been to a WBB this year, but the games I went to in the past few years were exciting. The women actually run a good offense, play some semblance of defense, and usually have 3 or 4 really good shooters.

When I was in school (2002-2007), I used to make it to all of the MBB games, and even went to most of them the past 2 seasons. I would consider myself a die-hard MBB fan, as I attended MBB games as a kid, way before I ever attended a FB game (96 or 97 may have been my first FB game). This season, I have gone to exactly one MBB game, and it was because I was alread in town and the ticket was free (right before the SB playoff game). I came away so thoroughly disgusted that I may not go to any more games this season. At least the past few seasons they have been competitive and occasionally ran some offense. This year's team is a disgrace to the game of basketball.

At one point during the San Jose St. game, the Spartans ran the same screen play 3 STRAIGHT TIMES, resulting in an easy, open jumpshot from the top of the key (and they made every one). I was so frustrated at watching a team that A) did not know how to defend the play and B) not able to run the anything remotely similar even ONCE during the game. When Huse took at timeout after the 3rd straight one, I yelled out something like "Hey Coach! Why can't we run offense like that?!??!" The reason is partly because the players either don't or won't run the play (Huse has lost them) and they have proven that even if they were able to run the same play 3 times in a row and it was open, they MIGHT knock it down once. Look at our shooting percentage; it was 39% until we played Northwest Indian College for the Poor and shot a blazing 54% (it's now 41%).

Can't shoot, can't/won't run offense, can't/won't play defense... Recipe for a horrible team. That's how bad it's gotten. Huse needs to go; the sooner the better.

[TrueCat]

Yes, I have had season tickets to both MBB and WBB for the past six years. I will be the first to admitt that Huse's program can be very furstrating, but so was WBB running Memphis "dribble drive" offense. It work decently when Erika Perry was here, but that was 3 years ago. This season she seems to have moved away from it, but I think that has more to due with the lack of an experienced PG.

[Old Skool Cat]

You make a valid point. I just look at the programs and see that they are not too far apart, but their structures are totally different.

WBB:
- Consistent asst. coaches
- 4 year students
- In-state kids

MBB:
-Asst. turnover
- JC transfers
- Not as many in-state

Let me ask you this... Have you attended any games of both teams in the past 6 years or so? If not, then you have no room to comment. I haven't been to a WBB this year, but the games I went to in the past few years were exciting. The women actually run a good offense, play some semblance of defense, and usually have 3 or 4 really good shooters.

When I was in school (2002-2007), I used to make it to all of the MBB games, and even went to most of them the past 2 seasons. I would consider myself a die-hard MBB fan, as I attended MBB games as a kid, way before I ever attended a FB game (96 or 97 may have been my first FB game). This season, I have gone to exactly one MBB game, and it was because I was alread in town and the ticket was free (right before the SB playoff game). I came away so thoroughly disgusted that I may not go to any more games this season. At least the past few seasons they have been competitive and occasionally ran some offense. This year's team is a disgrace to the game of basketball.

At one point during the San Jose St. game, the Spartans ran the same screen play 3 STRAIGHT TIMES, resulting in an easy, open jumpshot from the top of the key (and they made every one). I was so frustrated at watching a team that A) did not know how to defend the play and B) not able to run the anything remotely similar even ONCE during the game. When Huse took at timeout after the 3rd straight one, I yelled out something like "Hey Coach! Why can't we run offense like that?!??!" The reason is partly because the players either don't or won't run the play (Huse has lost them) and they have proven that even if they were able to run the same play 3 times in a row and it was open, they MIGHT knock it down once. Look at our shooting percentage; it was 39% until we played Northwest Indian College for the Poor and shot a blazing 54% (it's now 41%).

Can't shoot, can't/won't run offense, can't/won't play defense... Recipe for a horrible team. That's how bad it's gotten. Huse needs to go; the sooner the better.

That was you!?! I was sitting about two rows above you and I about spit my Coke out all over the place! The gym was dead quiet when you yelled that and I laughed so damn hard, because I was thinking the same thing!! I actually drove over to Bozeman from Helena the other night to watch the men play Northwest Indian College. I was so disgusted after that game, even though we won, that I may not come over for another game all season.