Big Sky Total Offense Yards, Career

[CARDIAC_CATS]

Since everyone loves stats, I thought I would post this one too

Total Yards in Career

1. 12,287 Jamie Martin, Weber
2. 12,027 Dough Nussmeier, Idaho
3. 11,513 Dave Dickenson, Grizzles
4. 11,400 Travis Brown, NAU
5. 11,126 Ken Hobart, Idaho
6. 10,277 Greg Wyatt, NAU
7. 10,187 John Friez, Idaho
8. 9,769 Jeff Lewis, NAU
9. 9,454 Marcus Brady, Northridge
10. 9,230 Brian Ah Yah, Grizzles
11. 9,028 Eric Beavers, Nevada
10. 8,965 Travis Lulay, MSU

So it looks like Lulay is just over 3000 yards away of taking over the all time lead. Can he do it? Tune in this season for some exciting games.

[GOKATS]

Considering that Lulay had 3856 total yards last year, 3485 passing & 371 rushing, he should take over the all time leader spot. And as CC brought up in another thread there were a lot of dropped passes last year in the early season.

Go get 'em Travis!

[94VegasCat]

2,549 would be fine by me! Then maybe he can go to the CFL and later the NFL but not play, then go back to the CFL and succeed, all the while Bobcats will be able to proudly say that he got his shot but was not able to crack the big time, but we would still think he got a fair shake, but best of all, he better numbers than Davey Dick. Then we could all see where Krames is coming from in comparing the two.

[DaGriz]

but best of all, he better numbers than Davey Dick. Then we could all see where Krames is coming from in comparing the two.

To compare Lulay to Dave D. I think you would also have to throw in Dave's Payton award and N.C. It's not just about stats but also about winning big games. Peyton Manning is a stud QB but I personally think Tom Brady is better. Look at their accomplishments and look at their big game performances. I have to give the nod to Brady even though Manning has better numbers.

I'm suprised Ricky Ray isn't on the career passing list.

[CARDIAC_CATS]

but best of all, he better numbers than Davey Dick. Then we could all see where Krames is coming from in comparing the two.

To compare Lulay to Dave D. I think you would also have to throw in Dave's Payton award and N.C. It's not just about stats but also about winning big games. Peyton Manning is a stud QB but I personally think Tom Brady is better. Look at their accomplishments and look at their big game performances. I have to give the nod to Brady even though Manning has better numbers.

I'm suprised Ricky Ray isn't on the career passing list.

Peyton would already have 3-4 trophies in the closet had he the defense of the New England Patriots. I don't think the guy can do more than almost average 4 TD's a game and 40+ points. Football is a team game and you can be a stud player and never see the promised land. The Griz have been lucky to play at home in all their NC appearances in the playoffs. Dickenson was great yeah, but certain things/luck/upsets by other teams do come into play. You can have by far the best team in all of 1-AA but that does not mean you will win the championship.

[Nick]

but best of all, he better numbers than Davey Dick. Then we could all see where Krames is coming from in comparing the two.

To compare Lulay to Dave D. I think you would also have to throw in Dave's Payton award and N.C. It's not just about stats but also about winning big games. Peyton Manning is a stud QB but I personally think Tom Brady is better. Look at their accomplishments and look at their big game performances. I have to give the nod to Brady even though Manning has better numbers.

I'm suprised Ricky Ray isn't on the career passing list.

Peyton would already have 3-4 trophies in the closet had he the defense of the New England Patriots. I don't think the guy can do more than almost average 4 TD's a game and 40+ points. Football is a team game and you can be a stud player and never see the promised land. The Griz have been lucky to play at home in all their NC appearances in the playoffs. Dickenson was great yeah, but certain things/luck/upsets by other teams do come into play. You can have by far the best team in all of 1-AA but that does not mean you will win the championship.

That is a good point, but it is also interesting to think of the two times between 1993-95 that Dickenson didn't start.

The second was a 28-9 loss in the semifinals at Youngstown State --injury
The first was a 35-30 loss to Oregon in `93. Yes, it was a against a I-A but Dickenson was the reason the Griz kept it so close, they were down by something like 25 points at halftime. DD replaced Wilburger.

Also Dickenson's statistics were kept before they began putting all-time playoff yards with the career yards. Add 7 more games for DD -- many of which he only played the first half because of the score.

[CARDIAC_CATS]

but best of all, he better numbers than Davey Dick. Then we could all see where Krames is coming from in comparing the two.

To compare Lulay to Dave D. I think you would also have to throw in Dave's Payton award and N.C. It's not just about stats but also about winning big games. Peyton Manning is a stud QB but I personally think Tom Brady is better. Look at their accomplishments and look at their big game performances. I have to give the nod to Brady even though Manning has better numbers.

I'm suprised Ricky Ray isn't on the career passing list.

Peyton would already have 3-4 trophies in the closet had he the defense of the New England Patriots. I don't think the guy can do more than almost average 4 TD's a game and 40+ points. Football is a team game and you can be a stud player and never see the promised land. The Griz have been lucky to play at home in all their NC appearances in the playoffs. Dickenson was great yeah, but certain things/luck/upsets by other teams do come into play. You can have by far the best team in all of 1-AA but that does not mean you will win the championship.

That is a good point, but it is also interesting to think of the two times between 1993-95 that Dickenson didn't start.

The second was a 28-9 loss in the semifinals at Youngstown State --injury
The first was a 35-30 loss to Oregon in `93. Yes, it was a against a I-A but Dickenson was the reason the Griz kept it so close, they were down by something like 25 points at halftime. DD replaced Wilburger.

Also Dickenson's statistics were kept before they began putting all-time playoff yards with the career yards. Add 7 more games for DD -- many of which he only played the first half because of the score.

I see, since Davey D isn't at the top the stats ... the stats are tainted. I guess John Tetralt should be up there too as he pretty much didn't get a chance to throw and ran the ball in the option the whole game. Oh my what could have been. You might see Tetralt up there as well had they not run the ball so much.

Fact is though ... Lulay has a really good chance to be Numero UNO after this year. I for a fact will love seeing him up at the top!

P.S - Not sure where Eric Meyer is yet either, but he may just break the record next year as well ... not sure where he stands yardage wise.

[mquast53000]

Also Dickenson's statistics were kept before they began putting all-time playoff yards with the career yards. Add 7 more games for DD -- many of which he only played the first half because of the score.

I heard that this is the reason that Dave didn’t make it in the NFL.

[JahGriz]

1. 12,287 Jamie Martin, Weber
2. 12,027 Dough Nussmeier, Idaho
3. 11,513 Dave Dickenson, Grizzles
4. 11,400 Travis Brown, NAU
5. 11,126 Ken Hobart, Idaho
6. 10,277 Greg Wyatt, NAU
7. 10,187 John Friez, Idaho
8. 9,769 Jeff Lewis, NAU
9. 9,454 Marcus Brady, Northridge
10. 9,230 Brian Ah Yah, Grizzles
11. 9,028 Eric Beavers, Nevada
10. 8,965 Travis Lulay, MSU

Would be nice to see how many games each took to rack up these numbers.

Other interesting numbers: http://www.football.com/college/records ... Pass.shtml

[Nick]

but best of all, he better numbers than Davey Dick. Then we could all see where Krames is coming from in comparing the two.

To compare Lulay to Dave D. I think you would also have to throw in Dave's Payton award and N.C. It's not just about stats but also about winning big games. Peyton Manning is a stud QB but I personally think Tom Brady is better. Look at their accomplishments and look at their big game performances. I have to give the nod to Brady even though Manning has better numbers.

I'm suprised Ricky Ray isn't on the career passing list.

Peyton would already have 3-4 trophies in the closet had he the defense of the New England Patriots. I don't think the guy can do more than almost average 4 TD's a game and 40+ points. Football is a team game and you can be a stud player and never see the promised land. The Griz have been lucky to play at home in all their NC appearances in the playoffs. Dickenson was great yeah, but certain things/luck/upsets by other teams do come into play. You can have by far the best team in all of 1-AA but that does not mean you will win the championship.

That is a good point, but it is also interesting to think of the two times between 1993-95 that Dickenson didn't start.

The second was a 28-9 loss in the semifinals at Youngstown State --injury
The first was a 35-30 loss to Oregon in `93. Yes, it was a against a I-A but Dickenson was the reason the Griz kept it so close, they were down by something like 25 points at halftime. DD replaced Wilburger.

Also Dickenson's statistics were kept before they began putting all-time playoff yards with the career yards. Add 7 more games for DD -- many of which he only played the first half because of the score.

I see, since Davey D isn't at the top the stats ... the stats are tainted. I guess John Tetralt should be up there too as he pretty much didn't get a chance to throw and ran the ball in the option the whole game. Oh my what could have been. You might see Tetralt up there as well had they not run the ball so much.

Fact is though ... Lulay has a really good chance to be Numero UNO after this year. I for a fact will love seeing him up at the top!

P.S - Not sure where Eric Meyer is yet either, but he may just break the record next year as well ... not sure where he stands yardage wise.

Look I am not saying the stats are tainted -- I am just telling you to keep that in mind. Lulay deserves his recognition but it should be mentioned that 7 of DD's games aren't included in his stats, which does make a big difference. The same goes for Brian Ah Yat, who started in 6 playoff games as a Grizzly. I don't know how many of the playoff games some of the other QBs were in, like Jamie Martin, but that would increase their numbers as well.

If you guys would put down the Griz Hating sword for a few minutes and actually talk football, maybe you would see better reactions out of Griz fans. I was just stating facts, like I said, nothing against Lulay.

[Bozgriz]

Once again, I default to the Dan Marino argument. Who cares about stats? Marino, I'm certain, would give up his stats for a Super Bowl Ring...Being number one is passing yardage is a great statistic, but it doesn't make you a great quarterback. I'll take Montana, Aikman and Brady over Marino, Tarkenton and Fouts any day of the week...

Lulay, if the cats achieve on the field with playoff wins, moves to the highest part of the list...Without those wins, he's just another good quarterback who throws the ball all the time.

[Obzerver]

Cardiac Cats, Meyer is sitting with 6,718 total yards in his two seasons. Looks like he'll break the 10,000 mark...

[Hell's Bells]

Once again, I default to the Dan Marino argument. Who cares about stats? Marino, I'm certain, would give up his stats for a Super Bowl Ring...Being number one is passing yardage is a great statistic, but it doesn't make you a great quarterback. I'll take Montana, Aikman and Brady over Marino, Tarkenton and Fouts any day of the week...

Lulay, if the cats achieve on the field with playoff wins, moves to the highest part of the list...Without those wins, he's just another good quarterback who throws the ball all the time.

and if luley would be a griz...

[Nick]

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and if luley would be a griz...

Bobcatnation would cease to exist

[Go Scats Go]

Once again, I default to the Dan Marino argument. Who cares about stats? Marino, I'm certain, would give up his stats for a Super Bowl Ring...Being number one is passing yardage is a great statistic, but it doesn't make you a great quarterback. I'll take Montana, Aikman and Brady over Marino, Tarkenton and Fouts any day of the week...

Lulay, if the cats achieve on the field with playoff wins, moves to the highest part of the list...Without those wins, he's just another good quarterback who throws the ball all the time.

and if luley would be a griz...

The Griz would be 6 and 5

[Nick]

Once again, I default to the Dan Marino argument. Who cares about stats? Marino, I'm certain, would give up his stats for a Super Bowl Ring...Being number one is passing yardage is a great statistic, but it doesn't make you a great quarterback. I'll take Montana, Aikman and Brady over Marino, Tarkenton and Fouts any day of the week...

Lulay, if the cats achieve on the field with playoff wins, moves to the highest part of the list...Without those wins, he's just another good quarterback who throws the ball all the time.

and if luley would be a griz...

The Griz would be 6 and 5

And Mike Kramer would be working at Payless

[JahGriz]

I think BozGriz is right to an extent. Does anybody think Dave Dickenson would be the figure he is today in the minds of Griz fans had he not won a NC? What if he had never even won a playoff game? I don't think it would be the same. He would be just as boz said, another good QB who threw the ball all the time.

[Go Scats Go]

Once again, I default to the Dan Marino argument. Who cares about stats? Marino, I'm certain, would give up his stats for a Super Bowl Ring...Being number one is passing yardage is a great statistic, but it doesn't make you a great quarterback. I'll take Montana, Aikman and Brady over Marino, Tarkenton and Fouts any day of the week...

Lulay, if the cats achieve on the field with playoff wins, moves to the highest part of the list...Without those wins, he's just another good quarterback who throws the ball all the time.

and if luley would be a griz...

The Griz would be 6 and 5

And Mike Kramer would be working at Payless

Paper or plastic Mr. Hauck??