Grok’s unofficial Montana State vs Oregon gameday thread

[Colter_Nuanez]

"Last June, several national outlets reported that Knight, 86, is desperate to see Oregon win a national championship in football during his lifetime and is willing to supply “unlimited” NIL funds. Over the last two years, Oregon has had consecutive transfer portal recruiting groups that ranked No. 2 in the country. Oregon’s non-transfer portal recruiting classes have ranked No. 4 and No. 1 since Knight opened up the check book."

Pretty wild to write that...

[aucat]

Kansas State is ranked number 17 in the country and North Dakota should have beaten them, losing in the end 38-35. Hats off to this FCS team competing with a ranked FBS team.

[PapaG]

I think this is the reality now. I read that Oregon has around $23 million in NIL each season, and some of their top players are transfers from other Power 4 programs. With that kind of money, they can buy talent year after year. Upsets will still happen occasionally, but they’re going to be much more rare these days.

Oregon native starters on offense (0) and defense (1) for the Ducks. In a state of over 4 million people, only one is good enough to start. Let that sink in.

After that sinks in, take 1/4 of that population, put two schools into FBS, and think of how few Montana starters there would be between the schools on even an 8-win bowl team at the FBS level.

It’s why I find the FBS talk so delusional considering the lack of FBS in-state talent.

[coloradocat]

I think this is the reality now. I read that Oregon has around $23 million in NIL each season, and some of their top players are transfers from other Power 4 programs. With that kind of money, they can buy talent year after year. Upsets will still happen occasionally, but they’re going to be much more rare these days.

Oregon native starters on offense (0) and defense (1) for the Ducks. In a state of over 4 million people, only one is good enough to start. Let that sink in.

After that sinks in, take 1/4 of that population, put two schools into FBS, and think of how few Montana starters there would be between the schools on even an 8-win bowl team at the FBS level.

It’s why I find the FBS talk so delusional considering the lack of FBS in-state talent.

I've never heard anyone make the argument that if we move up we'll try to be Oregon. If we move up we'll try to be Boise State at best and more likely just the rest of the MWC. We currently hang with the MWC and if we move up and join them maybe we have a handful of more out of state guys but that's it.

[PapaG]

I think this is the reality now. I read that Oregon has around $23 million in NIL each season, and some of their top players are transfers from other Power 4 programs. With that kind of money, they can buy talent year after year. Upsets will still happen occasionally, but they’re going to be much more rare these days.

Oregon native starters on offense (0) and defense (1) for the Ducks. In a state of over 4 million people, only one is good enough to start. Let that sink in.

After that sinks in, take 1/4 of that population, put two schools into FBS, and think of how few Montana starters there would be between the schools on even an 8-win bowl team at the FBS level.

It’s why I find the FBS talk so delusional considering the lack of FBS in-state talent.

I've never heard anyone make the argument that if we move up we'll try to be Oregon. If we move up we'll try to be Boise State at best and more likely just the rest of the MWC. We currently hang with the MWC and if we move up and join them maybe we have a handful of more out of state guys but that's it.

Boise State? Yeah, that’s not happening unless one of the two FCS programs folds, and even then it would be at a severe NIL disadvantage.

It took the best Bobcat team in decades and a miracle comeback to beat a MWC team last year that didn’t even make a bowl game. If the idea is to win the MWC, count on far less Montana players on the rosters of both schools, and also the Frontier Conference perhaps thinking about going to NCAA Division-2 because there will be dozens of very good Montana players either playing FCS out of state, or staying in-state at the NAIA programs.

[onceacat]

I think this is the reality now. I read that Oregon has around $23 million in NIL each season, and some of their top players are transfers from other Power 4 programs. With that kind of money, they can buy talent year after year. Upsets will still happen occasionally, but they’re going to be much more rare these days.

Oregon native starters on offense (0) and defense (1) for the Ducks. In a state of over 4 million people, only one is good enough to start. Let that sink in.

After that sinks in, take 1/4 of that population, put two schools into FBS, and think of how few Montana starters there would be between the schools on even an 8-win bowl team at the FBS level.

It’s why I find the FBS talk so delusional considering the lack of FBS in-state talent.

If Oregon can be a national title contender with only one in state guy, doesn't that disprove your point?

UM/MSU don't need in state talent, as long as theres a billionaire willing to spend whatever it takes.

You severely undermined your own case by pointing that out.

[PapaG]

I think this is the reality now. I read that Oregon has around $23 million in NIL each season, and some of their top players are transfers from other Power 4 programs. With that kind of money, they can buy talent year after year. Upsets will still happen occasionally, but they’re going to be much more rare these days.

Oregon native starters on offense (0) and defense (1) for the Ducks. In a state of over 4 million people, only one is good enough to start. Let that sink in.

After that sinks in, take 1/4 of that population, put two schools into FBS, and think of how few Montana starters there would be between the schools on even an 8-win bowl team at the FBS level.

It’s why I find the FBS talk so delusional considering the lack of FBS in-state talent.

If Oregon can be a national title contender with only one in state guy, doesn't that disprove your point?

UM/MSU don't need in state talent, as long as theres a billionaire willing to spend whatever it takes.

You severely undermined your own case by pointing that out.

I happen to like local players being able to play for their in-state colleges.

Comparing MSU/UM to Oregon, or even Boise State, is also hilarious just based on coaching salaries alone, and that doesn’t even get into Bozeman cost of living and NIL for out-of-state players to choose Bozeman over 100+ other FBS programs.

If anything was learned from Saturday, it’s that the quickest path to mediocrity for the Montana schools is going FBS and joining a watered-down MWC.

[TomCat88]

"Last June, several national outlets reported that Knight, 86, is desperate to see Oregon win a national championship in football during his lifetime and is willing to supply “unlimited” NIL funds. Over the last two years, Oregon has had consecutive transfer portal recruiting groups that ranked No. 2 in the country. Oregon’s non-transfer portal recruiting classes have ranked No. 4 and No. 1 since Knight opened up the check book."

Pretty wild to write that...

I swear…

[tetoncat]

I rewatched game. First drive had a couple plays poor leverage and a couple missed tackles. Missed tackle on 2nd TD after block punt, third finally got some push and held for FG. RT had a false start and the one penalty for to many in backfield because he was off line. On punt that we had a good kick but illegal formation it was left side too far back. Those can be fixed. Seemed like we adjusted to speed after that but 4 straight short fields really hurt. They brought people on 3 of first 4 punts. They learned from last years Idaho game to go for the throat right away and played most of main rotation thru 3rd qtr.
A lot of good plays but need a better start on both sides this week.

[The Butcher]

"Last June, several national outlets reported that Knight, 86, is desperate to see Oregon win a national championship in football during his lifetime and is willing to supply “unlimited” NIL funds. Over the last two years, Oregon has had consecutive transfer portal recruiting groups that ranked No. 2 in the country. Oregon’s non-transfer portal recruiting classes have ranked No. 4 and No. 1 since Knight opened up the check book."

Pretty wild to write that...

I swear…

Even other P4 schools are realizing that Oregon money is at a total different level! If he is right, $40 million in one season...
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/colle ... -spend-win

[nanacat]

"Last June, several national outlets reported that Knight, 86, is desperate to see Oregon win a national championship in football during his lifetime and is willing to supply “unlimited” NIL funds. Over the last two years, Oregon has had consecutive transfer portal recruiting groups that ranked No. 2 in the country. Oregon’s non-transfer portal recruiting classes have ranked No. 4 and No. 1 since Knight opened up the check book."

Pretty wild to write that...

I swear…

Even other P4 schools are realizing that Oregon money is at a total different level! If he is right, $40 million in one season...
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/colle ... -spend-win

I agree with the comment having to do with scheduling non- conference opponents. At this point, playing Oregon is about like playing an NFL team. Lower level teams, in this out of control NIL situation need to be very careful and smart about who they agree to play. Sure, there's lessons to learn from playing upper level programs, and certainly the payments are nice, but at what cost? The ever changing landscape of college football is just that, ever changing.

[TomCat88]

"Last June, several national outlets reported that Knight, 86, is desperate to see Oregon win a national championship in football during his lifetime and is willing to supply “unlimited” NIL funds. Over the last two years, Oregon has had consecutive transfer portal recruiting groups that ranked No. 2 in the country. Oregon’s non-transfer portal recruiting classes have ranked No. 4 and No. 1 since Knight opened up the check book."

Pretty wild to write that...

I swear…

Even other P4 schools are realizing that Oregon money is at a total different level! If he is right, $40 million in one season...
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/colle ... -spend-win

There’s the P4, then there’s the serious P4 teams. Teams like Minnesota, Northwestern, Vanderbilt are not so serious. 3-stars are only about 10% of the Oregon roster. There are twice as many (32) AAA teams in baseball than there are football equivalent AAA teams in college football, which means the top players are funneling into about 16 teams if that.