Woof. Unless you are looking at education (hello Northwestern!) these teams can't be much better than Furman.
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These football players are more well-rounded people than many on this board give them credit for. It's not necessarily all about the NFL and NIL, this guy now has a shot at a free year towards a Master's Degree from Northwestern or UVA. Great opportunity for him!The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:17 amWoof. Unless you are looking at education (hello Northwestern!) these teams can't be much better than Furman.
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I mean, yeah, they are. And several better academically.The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:17 amWoof. Unless you are looking at education (hello Northwestern!) these teams can't be much better than Furman.
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Rohan Jones from Maine got an offer. 6’2 TE with 2 years to play. Looks very athletic. Also did some kick returns for them. Similar to Snell.
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Screw setting himself up for the future. There is football loyalty to consider above all!MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:21 amThese football players are more well-rounded people than many on this board give them credit for. It's not necessarily all about the NFL and NIL, this guy now has a shot at a free year towards a Master's Degree from Northwestern or UVA. Great opportunity for him!The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:17 amWoof. Unless you are looking at education (hello Northwestern!) these teams can't be much better than Furman.
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PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:52 amScrew setting himself up for the future. There is football loyalty to consider above all!MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:21 amThese football players are more well-rounded people than many on this board give them credit for. It's not necessarily all about the NFL and NIL, this guy now has a shot at a free year towards a Master's Degree from Northwestern or UVA. Great opportunity for him!The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:17 amWoof. Unless you are looking at education (hello Northwestern!) these teams can't be much better than Furman.
Ha. So yer implying that THAT is why we have seen all these all conf/all American players from the big sky leave…. So they could pursue a masters degree and further their education.
Got it. I did not realize that. I was wrong.
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Agree. Those who have graduated completed their commitment, after all the purpose is to go to college. Ones like Fitzgerald going to Western can't blame as looking for playing time. Just seems like a lot who search for something they might not get. Some will get NIL to justify leaving but many won't, or will get some money but lose playing time. Move laterally to a team not as good.MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:21 amThese football players are more well-rounded people than many on this board give them credit for. It's not necessarily all about the NFL and NIL, this guy now has a shot at a free year towards a Master's Degree from Northwestern or UVA. Great opportunity for him!The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:17 amWoof. Unless you are looking at education (hello Northwestern!) these teams can't be much better than Furman.
Kickers, o line and d line, and QB I think are hot markets. Prove you can play, have the weight and strength built up you can likely move up, at least to back up roll. WR, RB, DB I don't see as much. Top end sure but a lot of HS kids each year, JC. So and Idaho WR or RB portals, are they as likely to get picked up if first team all conference vs a lineman. I don't think so. Shoot, Davis was one of top backs in league and couldn't get time at Wisconsin.
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If your son was playing college football, you’re not independently wealthy, and someone offered him to graduate college with no debt and six figures in his bank account, would you advise him to pass that up? Houses ain’t gettin’ cheaper and he could have a very nice down payment for a home or an investment nest egg that would benefit him for the rest of his life? There is waaaay more to life than football.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:25 amPapaG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:52 amScrew setting himself up for the future. There is football loyalty to consider above all!MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:21 amThese football players are more well-rounded people than many on this board give them credit for. It's not necessarily all about the NFL and NIL, this guy now has a shot at a free year towards a Master's Degree from Northwestern or UVA. Great opportunity for him!The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:17 amWoof. Unless you are looking at education (hello Northwestern!) these teams can't be much better than Furman.
Ha. So yer implying that THAT is why we have seen all these all conf/all American players from the big sky leave…. So they could pursue a masters degree and further their education.
Got it. I did not realize that. I was wrong.
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If, they get that 100,000. I have discussed this before. I believe they are out there, just not for every kid entering the portal. They aren't getting that dropping down, moving laterally or likely even at G5. It is the argument thrown out there but if it is impacting 5, 10, 20% of kids is it really the main reason. Might be the hope to get I suppose and maybe after a few years and kids mot getting it or not landing so.ewhere this will all slow down.tdub wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:42 amIf your son was playing college football, you’re not independently wealthy, and someone offered him to graduate college with no debt and six figures in his bank account, would you advise him to pass that up? Houses ain’t gettin’ cheaper and he could have a very nice down payment for a home or an investment nest egg that would benefit him for the rest of his life? There is waaaay more to life than football.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:25 amPapaG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:52 amScrew setting himself up for the future. There is football loyalty to consider above all!MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:21 amThese football players are more well-rounded people than many on this board give them credit for. It's not necessarily all about the NFL and NIL, this guy now has a shot at a free year towards a Master's Degree from Northwestern or UVA. Great opportunity for him!The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:17 amWoof. Unless you are looking at education (hello Northwestern!) these teams can't be much better than Furman.
Ha. So yer implying that THAT is why we have seen all these all conf/all American players from the big sky leave…. So they could pursue a masters degree and further their education.
Got it. I did not realize that. I was wrong.
Very simple investment math. $100,000 yielding an average of 7% over 40 years (retirement age) would be over $1,600,000. That’s a helluva head start on the life most of us are grinding out to make.
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I agree with that. All indications are that the top FCS guys are getting offered that. The $100,000 (“six figures”) was just a number that’s been thrown around a lot so I used that.tetoncat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:49 amIf, they get that 100,000. I have discussed this before. I believe they are out there, just not for every kid entering the portal. They aren't getting that dropping down, moving laterally or likely even at G5. It is the argument thrown out there but if it is impacting 5, 10, 20% of kids is it really the main reason. Might be the hope to get I suppose and maybe after a few years and kids mot getting it or not landing so.ewhere this will all slow down.tdub wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:42 amIf your son was playing college football, you’re not independently wealthy, and someone offered him to graduate college with no debt and six figures in his bank account, would you advise him to pass that up? Houses ain’t gettin’ cheaper and he could have a very nice down payment for a home or an investment nest egg that would benefit him for the rest of his life? There is waaaay more to life than football.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:25 amPapaG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:52 amScrew setting himself up for the future. There is football loyalty to consider above all!MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:21 amThese football players are more well-rounded people than many on this board give them credit for. It's not necessarily all about the NFL and NIL, this guy now has a shot at a free year towards a Master's Degree from Northwestern or UVA. Great opportunity for him!The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:17 amWoof. Unless you are looking at education (hello Northwestern!) these teams can't be much better than Furman.
Ha. So yer implying that THAT is why we have seen all these all conf/all American players from the big sky leave…. So they could pursue a masters degree and further their education.
Got it. I did not realize that. I was wrong.
Very simple investment math. $100,000 yielding an average of 7% over 40 years (retirement age) would be over $1,600,000. That’s a helluva head start on the life most of us are grinding out to make.
Dropping down is almost always a playing time issue, and I’m supportive of that.
Lateral moves are always questionable, but tend to be more about location, family, etc.
My main point is that these kids are trying to do what’s right for their future and it isn’t always about just football. Sometimes it is and the decisions aren’t ones I’d make. personally don’t love it as a fan, but I certainly understand it.
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Very few fans are blaming the kids for taking advantage of their opportunities. Most of us who don't like what's happening currently are blaming the system, not the kids.tdub wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:42 amIf your son was playing college football, you’re not independently wealthy, and someone offered him to graduate college with no debt and six figures in his bank account, would you advise him to pass that up? Houses ain’t gettin’ cheaper and he could have a very nice down payment for a home or an investment nest egg that would benefit him for the rest of his life? There is waaaay more to life than football.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 9:25 amPapaG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:52 amScrew setting himself up for the future. There is football loyalty to consider above all!MSU01 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:21 amThese football players are more well-rounded people than many on this board give them credit for. It's not necessarily all about the NFL and NIL, this guy now has a shot at a free year towards a Master's Degree from Northwestern or UVA. Great opportunity for him!The Butcher wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:17 amWoof. Unless you are looking at education (hello Northwestern!) these teams can't be much better than Furman.
Ha. So yer implying that THAT is why we have seen all these all conf/all American players from the big sky leave…. So they could pursue a masters degree and further their education.
Got it. I did not realize that. I was wrong.
Very simple investment math. $100,000 yielding an average of 7% over 40 years (retirement age) would be over $1,600,000. That’s a helluva head start on the life most of us are grinding out to make.

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It’s hard to fault any kid for taking a big NIl deal. I don’t agree with it at all, I frickin hate it, but I understand why they do it.
More than anything I am frustrated with the current system, which is obviously broke. Crazy times…
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Good news for RaeQuan.
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Well yea for RaeQuan if this means he gets to play this year. Does this also mean that another great big door just opened up allowing even more athletes to easily flood away from FCS schools?
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ProbablyJoe Bobcat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:40 pmWell yea for RaeQuan if this means he gets to play this year. Does this also mean that another great big door just opened up allowing even more athletes to easily flood away from FCS schools?
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The ruling is only good for a couple of weeks, so if they want to take a huge chance now and hope the ruling isn't overturned, then go of it.Joe Bobcat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:40 pmWell yea for RaeQuan if this means he gets to play this year. Does this also mean that another great big door just opened up allowing even more athletes to easily flood away from FCS schools?
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But yet MSU and our receiver that was all set to start the season..... still got the shaft. But, we're FCS. Nice. I'm normally a loving person but today I'm full of hate, or at least extreme dislike, for NIL, the Transfer Portal, and the NCAA. lol
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Are you telling me that Tommy would get looks from P5 schools if he went into the portal?BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:09 pmHe is not a better passer than Tommy.onceacat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 amUtah went into this season as returning Pac 12 champs and a competitive Rose Bowl appearance without a single medically cleared QB on scholarship. I cant imagine thats super common, but Huff would clearly have had a backup spot there.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:59 pmHead scratcher here. No disrespect intended, but he's not better than FCS.
But even more than that, he reminds me of Isaiah Ifanse. Dudes been at Furman for 5 years, he's 22 or 23. Probably wants to get a graduate degree from somewhere else.
MSU should offer him. He's tough as Tommy Mellot & a better passer (but slower). Seems like he would be a really good fit for what MSU is trying to do in its 2 QB system.
LOL, hes a lot better passer than Tommy & its not even very close.
Hes not nearly as fast as Tommy though.
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Yes, 100% he would be able to sign with a P5 school.onceacat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:14 pmAre you telling me that Tommy would get looks from P5 schools if he went into the portal?BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:09 pmHe is not a better passer than Tommy.onceacat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:10 amUtah went into this season as returning Pac 12 champs and a competitive Rose Bowl appearance without a single medically cleared QB on scholarship. I cant imagine thats super common, but Huff would clearly have had a backup spot there.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:59 pmHead scratcher here. No disrespect intended, but he's not better than FCS.
But even more than that, he reminds me of Isaiah Ifanse. Dudes been at Furman for 5 years, he's 22 or 23. Probably wants to get a graduate degree from somewhere else.
MSU should offer him. He's tough as Tommy Mellot & a better passer (but slower). Seems like he would be a really good fit for what MSU is trying to do in its 2 QB system.
LOL, hes a lot better passer than Tommy & its not even very close.
Hes not nearly as fast as Tommy though.
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Pretty much in line with my thoughts. I can’t and won’t disparage a kid for abiding by the rules in place and pursuing an opportunity they think will see their lives on a better course. But that doesn’t mean I like the system.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:02 pmIt’s hard to fault any kid for taking a big NIl deal. I don’t agree with it at all, I frickin hate it, but I understand why they do it.
More than anything I am frustrated with the current system, which is obviously broke. Crazy times…
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