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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by wbtfg » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:35 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?
I’d guess they are waiting for the end of the nfl regular season to announce Kellen Moore.



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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by TomCat88 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:13 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:35 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?
I’d guess they are waiting for the end of the nfl regular season to announce Kellen Moore.
I agree...unless they aren’t.


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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:47 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:35 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?
I’d guess they are waiting for the end of the nfl regular season to announce Kellen Moore.
I actually saw a news report that they want to hire an AD first to be involved in the hire.... I think that is a big mistake if true.



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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by bobcat99 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:47 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:35 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?
I’d guess they are waiting for the end of the nfl regular season to announce Kellen Moore.
I actually saw a news report that they want to hire an AD first to be involved in the hire.... I think that is a big mistake if true.
Why? The AD should hire the coach. They’ve got to work together, be a good fit.



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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by Hawks86 » Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:09 pm

There are two clear favorites in Avalos and Moore. I really don't want anyone new walking in and reconsidering other candidates. The best thing for Boise State football is to hire one of those two.


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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:13 pm

bobcat99 wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:47 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:35 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?
I’d guess they are waiting for the end of the nfl regular season to announce Kellen Moore.
I actually saw a news report that they want to hire an AD first to be involved in the hire.... I think that is a big mistake if true.
Why? The AD should hire the coach. They’ve got to work together, be a good fit.
Hawks86 stated it well. And let’s say Boise State takes two more weeks for the AD job and hires some guy from Florida. That guy might want an SEC coach and the whole process starts again with uncertainty for players, recruits and boosters. And if Harsin never left, the new AD would have not had any input on a coaching hire anyway and would have had to work with the existing coach.



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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by onceacat » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:25 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:13 pm
bobcat99 wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:47 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:35 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?
I’d guess they are waiting for the end of the nfl regular season to announce Kellen Moore.
I actually saw a news report that they want to hire an AD first to be involved in the hire.... I think that is a big mistake if true.
Why? The AD should hire the coach. They’ve got to work together, be a good fit.
Hawks86 stated it well. And let’s say Boise State takes two more weeks for the AD job and hires some guy from Florida. That guy might want an SEC coach and the whole process starts again with uncertainty for players, recruits and boosters. And if Harsin never left, the new AD would have not had any input on a coaching hire anyway and would have had to work with the existing coach.
Agree 100%. You’ve got 2 great candidates (maybe 3) get one of them in board to finish out recruiting season.

Imagine for a second that BSU hired Choate...if the AD can’t work with the coach, that’s a big litmus test. There isn’t a single good reason (imo) to hold off on the football hire, and a lot of good reasons to get Moore or Avalos n campus ASAP.



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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by Montanabob » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:25 pm

bobcat99 wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:47 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:35 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?
I’d guess they are waiting for the end of the nfl regular season to announce Kellen Moore.
I actually saw a news report that they want to hire an AD first to be involved in the hire.... I think that is a big mistake if true.
Why? The AD should hire the coach. They’ve got to work together, be a good fit.
But this is BSU, the football coach runs the program.


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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by superbobcat » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:33 pm

I’m not worried as long as Leon isn’t the AD candidate.



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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by TomCat88 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:28 am

https://www.idahopress.com/blueturfspor ... 4bb00.html

BSU close to hiring AD it appears. Jeramiah Dickey from Baylor.

“If Dickey is indeed hired, the Broncos could then turn their attention to the football coaching search. The school wanted to lock up a new athletic director before hiring a football coach. Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator Kellen Moore and Oregon defensive coordinator Andy Avalos remain the two leading candidates.”


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Post by thefrank1 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:20 am

Given the lack of organization and high degree of confusion at BSU, the head coaching job isn't that attractive. Applicants beware!


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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by St George » Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:46 am

I think Northeastern California (Boise) State should hire Bobby away from the Western School of Dance. They are both known for their abundance of bandwagon fans.



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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by Bobcatsinmso » Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:54 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:28 am
https://www.idahopress.com/blueturfspor ... 4bb00.html

BSU close to hiring AD it appears. Jeramiah Dickey from Baylor.

“If Dickey is indeed hired, the Broncos could then turn their attention to the football coaching search. The school wanted to lock up a new athletic director before hiring a football coach. Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator Kellen Moore and Oregon defensive coordinator Andy Avalos remain the two leading candidates.”
I would think that this is the most likely scenario.
Good information from TC88, who certainly has more knowledge in this arena than most of us.
Will coach Choate still get an interview? I believe he will, he has gotten really good reviews from former players and fellow coaches. Still a long shot IMO but still in the mix?


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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by VimSince03 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:58 pm

St George wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:46 am
I think Northeastern California (Boise) State should hire Bobby away from the Western School of Dance. They are both known for their abundance of bandwagon fans.
That would require Bobby to move away from his safe space....


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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by bobcat99 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:33 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:13 pm
bobcat99 wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:47 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:35 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?
I’d guess they are waiting for the end of the nfl regular season to announce Kellen Moore.
I actually saw a news report that they want to hire an AD first to be involved in the hire.... I think that is a big mistake if true.
Why? The AD should hire the coach. They’ve got to work together, be a good fit.
Hawks86 stated it well. And let’s say Boise State takes two more weeks for the AD job and hires some guy from Florida. That guy might want an SEC coach and the whole process starts again with uncertainty for players, recruits and boosters. And if Harsin never left, the new AD would have not had any input on a coaching hire anyway and would have had to work with the existing coach.
Who gives a rip if it takes another month to hire a coach? It’s the off-season!

I personally think anytime you have the two positions open at the same time, it’s best to hire the AD first. An exception would be if Nick Saban wants to come coach, but that ain’t happening here.

Again, personally, I would be skeptical of any group, or person, that would want to hire a 30 year old who has never coached a day of college football to lead a decently prominent program. Kellen Moore may be a very good offensive coach, but he’s never had to recruit, he’s never had to be in charge of a team, he’s never had to make all the decisions, he’s never coached 18 year olds. Coaching professionals and coaching kids is different. I would be very leery of that hire.

Anyways, people overrate where coaches come from. That matters in cases of connections and recruiting, but in general, I don’t care where they come from if they can coach well. Brian Wright came from Florida and did just fine. I don’t care if the process takes a few weeks longer if the process is done well.



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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by Hawks86 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:04 pm

Looks like they are going to hire the Baylor associate AD Jeramiah Dickey. I'd add Tom Herman to the list of candidates.


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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by cats2506 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:21 pm

bobcat99 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:33 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:13 pm
bobcat99 wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:47 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:35 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?
I’d guess they are waiting for the end of the nfl regular season to announce Kellen Moore.
I actually saw a news report that they want to hire an AD first to be involved in the hire.... I think that is a big mistake if true.
Why? The AD should hire the coach. They’ve got to work together, be a good fit.
Hawks86 stated it well. And let’s say Boise State takes two more weeks for the AD job and hires some guy from Florida. That guy might want an SEC coach and the whole process starts again with uncertainty for players, recruits and boosters. And if Harsin never left, the new AD would have not had any input on a coaching hire anyway and would have had to work with the existing coach.
Who gives a rip if it takes another month to hire a coach? It’s the off-season!

I personally think anytime you have the two positions open at the same time, it’s best to hire the AD first. An exception would be if Nick Saban wants to come coach, but that ain’t happening here.

Again, personally, I would be skeptical of any group, or person, that would want to hire a 30 year old who has never coached a day of college football to lead a decently prominent program. Kellen Moore may be a very good offensive coach, but he’s never had to recruit, he’s never had to be in charge of a team, he’s never had to make all the decisions, he’s never coached 18 year olds. Coaching professionals and coaching kids is different. I would be very leery of that hire.

Anyways, people overrate where coaches come from. That matters in cases of connections and recruiting, but in general, I don’t care where they come from if they can coach well. Brian Wright came from Florida and did just fine. I don’t care if the process takes a few weeks longer if the process is done well.
I don't think you know a lot about Kellen Moore. Yes he is young but the has a lot on his resume other than just having played for Boise. When he went to the NFL I think it was Peterson that said that whoever got him was getting one one of the best future coaches out there.

I suppose that you thought that Naming Matt Miller to OC at his young age was a bad idea too.


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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by bobcat99 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:45 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:21 pm
bobcat99 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:33 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:13 pm
bobcat99 wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:09 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:47 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:35 pm
Catsrgrood wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:33 pm
So.... this has gone quiet.
Anyone have any news or insight here?
I’d guess they are waiting for the end of the nfl regular season to announce Kellen Moore.
I actually saw a news report that they want to hire an AD first to be involved in the hire.... I think that is a big mistake if true.
Why? The AD should hire the coach. They’ve got to work together, be a good fit.
Hawks86 stated it well. And let’s say Boise State takes two more weeks for the AD job and hires some guy from Florida. That guy might want an SEC coach and the whole process starts again with uncertainty for players, recruits and boosters. And if Harsin never left, the new AD would have not had any input on a coaching hire anyway and would have had to work with the existing coach.
Who gives a rip if it takes another month to hire a coach? It’s the off-season!

I personally think anytime you have the two positions open at the same time, it’s best to hire the AD first. An exception would be if Nick Saban wants to come coach, but that ain’t happening here.

Again, personally, I would be skeptical of any group, or person, that would want to hire a 30 year old who has never coached a day of college football to lead a decently prominent program. Kellen Moore may be a very good offensive coach, but he’s never had to recruit, he’s never had to be in charge of a team, he’s never had to make all the decisions, he’s never coached 18 year olds. Coaching professionals and coaching kids is different. I would be very leery of that hire.

Anyways, people overrate where coaches come from. That matters in cases of connections and recruiting, but in general, I don’t care where they come from if they can coach well. Brian Wright came from Florida and did just fine. I don’t care if the process takes a few weeks longer if the process is done well.
I don't think you know a lot about Kellen Moore. Yes he is young but the has a lot on his resume other than just having played for Boise. When he went to the NFL I think it was Peterson that said that whoever got him was getting one one of the best future coaches out there.

I suppose that you thought that Naming Matt Miller to OC at his young age was a bad idea too.
World of difference between an OC and a HC. World of difference between Montana State and Boise State. They are not comparable situations.

All I’m saying is that hiring a young coach with zero college coaching history, and limited coaching history period, is a risky move. It isn’t a no-brainer. Furthermore, while Moore does appear to a coaching talent on the rise, and by all means a good coach, he has been an OC underneath two former offensive coaches. He did not have the ultimate authority in his role. I just think it’s a risky move that I wouldn’t take.



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Re: Choate to interview for Boise State job

Post by RickRund » Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:06 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:58 pm
St George wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:46 am
I think Northeastern California (Boise) State should hire Bobby away from the Western School of Dance. They are both known for their abundance of bandwagon fans.
That would require Bobby to move away from his safe space....
But robbie could step right into the starting lineup and be conference leader in tackles...


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