#7 SFA @ #2 MSU Friday night.

[kwcat]

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[SFASawmill]

He was more pissed than anyone that the game got cancelled. It was the SLC that forced it to be cancelled, not SFA.

The SLC scheduled us a conference game the same week that we had previously scheduled to play y’all, and it couldn’t be rescheduled.

Unfortunately it made us have to schedule a horrible sub D1 opponent last minute. Everyone in the athletics department I know was extremely upset about it.

Sure you're aware, but that home & home got replaced with 2 home games against Mercyhurst and we've been catching crap about it for two years now. Last minute scheduling sucks.

It certainly does suck, but it's still wrong to insinuate that the SFA coach is the one who initiated the cancellation of that home-and-home series. He's clearly very excited to come and play here.

I never said that. Just commiserating about trying to fill schedules with quality opponents.

I certainly wish we could get more Big Sky or MVFC teams down to Nacogdoches for out of conference play. We’ve struggled heavily to get quality OOC games for years in several sports, and it’s not for lack of trying. Many schools don’t like to visit Nacogdoches because it’s kind of a hassle to get to. Closest airport is 2 hours away, so away teams always have to land in Houston or Shreveport and make the additional 2 hour bus ride. You’d think it wouldn’t be that much of a hurdle but it really is.

How do your fans travel? hoping to see some purple on Friday night

SFA fans can travel pretty well for bigger games. Just from what I’ve seen online and from alumni there should be quite a few fans making the trip. The university is actually chartering a fan plane from Longview to Bozeman Friday morning as well. $1000 gets you the round trip ticket and game ticket.

Love this! Safe travels!

This is so good for our fan base.. we want to see what a championship team, facility and fan base act like.. Good things are happening for SFA and a new stadium and all athletics facilities getting upgraded since joining the UT system.. Our basketball facility is one of the tops in the nation but football and other sports has been lacking.. We have a great president (5-6 different ones in 6 yrs) Our new AD makes things happen and our alumni base are getting involved with sports.. I can't wait to be at the game.. We are pretty locked in and I can promise we will never give up.. I say probably 1000 fans on our side..

If there are 1,000 there that would probably be the biggest showing ever, for an opposing team not the Griz.

The fanbase is excited. This is legitimately the best Lumberjack team since the 89 national title team, so the fans have a good reason to go above and beyond to support the Jacks.

As was said above, the Jacks will give their best effort and not give up. Quit is not a word a Carthel coached team knows. If we lose, it is what it is, you guys are a national power and we’re trying to establish ourselves in the national conversation. But I don’t expect it to be a blowout by any means and I think you guys will at the very least be impressed with how far this SFA team has come.

[RyeCat]

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I’d be interested to know if going to an indoor practice facility and cranking up the air conditioning would replicate a cold weather game.

[kwcat]

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I’d be interested to know if going to an indoor practice facility and cranking up the air conditioning would replicate a cold weather game.

[4KornerKat]

https://sfasawmill.com/forums/2/topics/2624/2

I’d be interested to know if going to an indoor practice facility and cranking up the air conditioning would replicate a cold weather game.

Given that most of your A/C systems would struggle to put out air cooler than about 50, and that most of these buildings have to have fire sprinkler systems, I'd think it would be very challenging to get a space below about 55-60 degrees with conventional systems. If you were in a colder climate like ours where you could just push in outside air, you could get colder when it's colder outside, but you still have the sprinkler issue so you might as well go outside.

[RyeCat]

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I’d be interested to know if going to an indoor practice facility and cranking up the air conditioning would replicate a cold weather game.

Given that most of your A/C systems would struggle to put out air cooler than about 50, and that most of these buildings have to have fire sprinkler systems, I'd think it would be very challenging to get a space below about 55-60 degrees with conventional systems. If you were in a colder climate like ours where you could just push in outside air, you could get colder when it's colder outside, but you still have the sprinkler issue so you might as well go outside.

I was joking

[Bocephus]

Sure you're aware, but that home & home got replaced with 2 home games against Mercyhurst and we've been catching crap about it for two years now. Last minute scheduling sucks.

It certainly does suck, but it's still wrong to insinuate that the SFA coach is the one who initiated the cancellation of that home-and-home series. He's clearly very excited to come and play here.

I never said that. Just commiserating about trying to fill schedules with quality opponents.

I certainly wish we could get more Big Sky or MVFC teams down to Nacogdoches for out of conference play. We’ve struggled heavily to get quality OOC games for years in several sports, and it’s not for lack of trying. Many schools don’t like to visit Nacogdoches because it’s kind of a hassle to get to. Closest airport is 2 hours away, so away teams always have to land in Houston or Shreveport and make the additional 2 hour bus ride. You’d think it wouldn’t be that much of a hurdle but it really is.

How do your fans travel? hoping to see some purple on Friday night

SFA fans can travel pretty well for bigger games. Just from what I’ve seen online and from alumni there should be quite a few fans making the trip. The university is actually chartering a fan plane from Longview to Bozeman Friday morning as well. $1000 gets you the round trip ticket and game ticket.

Love this! Safe travels!

This is so good for our fan base.. we want to see what a championship team, facility and fan base act like.. Good things are happening for SFA and a new stadium and all athletics facilities getting upgraded since joining the UT system.. Our basketball facility is one of the tops in the nation but football and other sports has been lacking.. We have a great president (5-6 different ones in 6 yrs) Our new AD makes things happen and our alumni base are getting involved with sports.. I can't wait to be at the game.. We are pretty locked in and I can promise we will never give up.. I say probably 1000 fans on our side..

If there are 1,000 there that would probably be the biggest showing ever, for an opposing team not the Griz.

The fanbase is excited. This is legitimately the best Lumberjack team since the 89 national title team, so the fans have a good reason to go above and beyond to support the Jacks.

As was said above, the Jacks will give their best effort and not give up. Quit is not a word a Carthel coached team knows. If we lose, it is what it is, you guys are a national power and we’re trying to establish ourselves in the national conversation. But I don’t expect it to be a blowout by any means and I think you guys will at the very least be impressed with how far this SFA team has come.

I did some light browsing on your fan board. Don’t think for a second that this team or fans for that matter takes SFA lightly. It’s obvious they are a good team and are playing good ball. The Montana media is fixated on a rivalry rematch. I guarantee that’s not the case with the team.

You might hear a few extra boos from the cancelled games, other than that you’ll find some friendly fans to have a drink with. One of the biggest disappointments from the canceled games was our TX guys were told they would get to play a game in TX as a recruiting tool.

[4KornerKat]

https://sfasawmill.com/forums/2/topics/2624/2

I’d be interested to know if going to an indoor practice facility and cranking up the air conditioning would replicate a cold weather game.

Given that most of your A/C systems would struggle to put out air cooler than about 50, and that most of these buildings have to have fire sprinkler systems, I'd think it would be very challenging to get a space below about 55-60 degrees with conventional systems. If you were in a colder climate like ours where you could just push in outside air, you could get colder when it's colder outside, but you still have the sprinkler issue so you might as well go outside.

I was joking

Understood, but I think it's a fair question, if the forecast for this weekend was much colder/snowy/rainy, what would a team from East Texas do to try to prepare. Buckets of ice water for offensive skilly players hands?

Weather doesn't look like it will be an issue this week

[SparkCat]

It certainly does suck, but it's still wrong to insinuate that the SFA coach is the one who initiated the cancellation of that home-and-home series. He's clearly very excited to come and play here.

I never said that. Just commiserating about trying to fill schedules with quality opponents.

I certainly wish we could get more Big Sky or MVFC teams down to Nacogdoches for out of conference play. We’ve struggled heavily to get quality OOC games for years in several sports, and it’s not for lack of trying. Many schools don’t like to visit Nacogdoches because it’s kind of a hassle to get to. Closest airport is 2 hours away, so away teams always have to land in Houston or Shreveport and make the additional 2 hour bus ride. You’d think it wouldn’t be that much of a hurdle but it really is.

How do your fans travel? hoping to see some purple on Friday night

SFA fans can travel pretty well for bigger games. Just from what I’ve seen online and from alumni there should be quite a few fans making the trip. The university is actually chartering a fan plane from Longview to Bozeman Friday morning as well. $1000 gets you the round trip ticket and game ticket.

Love this! Safe travels!

This is so good for our fan base.. we want to see what a championship team, facility and fan base act like.. Good things are happening for SFA and a new stadium and all athletics facilities getting upgraded since joining the UT system.. Our basketball facility is one of the tops in the nation but football and other sports has been lacking.. We have a great president (5-6 different ones in 6 yrs) Our new AD makes things happen and our alumni base are getting involved with sports.. I can't wait to be at the game.. We are pretty locked in and I can promise we will never give up.. I say probably 1000 fans on our side..

If there are 1,000 there that would probably be the biggest showing ever, for an opposing team not the Griz.

The fanbase is excited. This is legitimately the best Lumberjack team since the 89 national title team, so the fans have a good reason to go above and beyond to support the Jacks.

As was said above, the Jacks will give their best effort and not give up. Quit is not a word a Carthel coached team knows. If we lose, it is what it is, you guys are a national power and we’re trying to establish ourselves in the national conversation. But I don’t expect it to be a blowout by any means and I think you guys will at the very least be impressed with how far this SFA team has come.

I did some light browsing on your fan board. Don’t think for a second that this team or fans for that matter takes SFA lightly. It’s obvious they are a good team and are playing good ball. The Montana media is fixated on a rivalry rematch. I guarantee that’s not the case with the team.

You might hear a few extra boos from the cancelled games, other than that you’ll find some friendly fans to have a drink with. One of the biggest disappointments from the canceled games was our TX guys were told they would get to play a game in TX as a recruiting tool.

Good thing they still got to go.

[SFASawmill]

https://sfasawmill.com/forums/2/topics/2624/2

I’d be interested to know if going to an indoor practice facility and cranking up the air conditioning would replicate a cold weather game.

Given that most of your A/C systems would struggle to put out air cooler than about 50, and that most of these buildings have to have fire sprinkler systems, I'd think it would be very challenging to get a space below about 55-60 degrees with conventional systems. If you were in a colder climate like ours where you could just push in outside air, you could get colder when it's colder outside, but you still have the sprinkler issue so you might as well go outside.

I was joking

Understood, but I think it's a fair question, if the forecast for this weekend was much colder/snowy/rainy, what would a team from East Texas do to try to prepare. Buckets of ice water for offensive skilly players hands?

Weather doesn't look like it will be an issue this week

There’s not much you can realistically do except try and get things as close as possible. I was hoping the team would fly out a little sooner, at least Wednesday, so they could have at least an extra day to practice in the elements, but it looks like they’ll head out Thursday morning, giving them an evening at least to practice in it.

My bigger worry is the altitude. But this is the deepest SFA team we’ve had ever since I can remember, as depth has always been the problem with our teams, so I’m hopeful.

It does go both ways though. I remember when we played you guys in 2013 i think it was. The write up from yall said something about how yall had to deal with the sweltering 88 degree temperatures. In September in East Texas 88 degrees is a cool day, so I always have a little chuckle about it. Then again I saw people just this week in heavy coats and gloves in 50 degree weather.

[Bocephus]

I never said that. Just commiserating about trying to fill schedules with quality opponents.

I certainly wish we could get more Big Sky or MVFC teams down to Nacogdoches for out of conference play. We’ve struggled heavily to get quality OOC games for years in several sports, and it’s not for lack of trying. Many schools don’t like to visit Nacogdoches because it’s kind of a hassle to get to. Closest airport is 2 hours away, so away teams always have to land in Houston or Shreveport and make the additional 2 hour bus ride. You’d think it wouldn’t be that much of a hurdle but it really is.

How do your fans travel? hoping to see some purple on Friday night

SFA fans can travel pretty well for bigger games. Just from what I’ve seen online and from alumni there should be quite a few fans making the trip. The university is actually chartering a fan plane from Longview to Bozeman Friday morning as well. $1000 gets you the round trip ticket and game ticket.

Love this! Safe travels!

This is so good for our fan base.. we want to see what a championship team, facility and fan base act like.. Good things are happening for SFA and a new stadium and all athletics facilities getting upgraded since joining the UT system.. Our basketball facility is one of the tops in the nation but football and other sports has been lacking.. We have a great president (5-6 different ones in 6 yrs) Our new AD makes things happen and our alumni base are getting involved with sports.. I can't wait to be at the game.. We are pretty locked in and I can promise we will never give up.. I say probably 1000 fans on our side..

If there are 1,000 there that would probably be the biggest showing ever, for an opposing team not the Griz.

The fanbase is excited. This is legitimately the best Lumberjack team since the 89 national title team, so the fans have a good reason to go above and beyond to support the Jacks.

As was said above, the Jacks will give their best effort and not give up. Quit is not a word a Carthel coached team knows. If we lose, it is what it is, you guys are a national power and we’re trying to establish ourselves in the national conversation. But I don’t expect it to be a blowout by any means and I think you guys will at the very least be impressed with how far this SFA team has come.

I did some light browsing on your fan board. Don’t think for a second that this team or fans for that matter takes SFA lightly. It’s obvious they are a good team and are playing good ball. The Montana media is fixated on a rivalry rematch. I guarantee that’s not the case with the team.

You might hear a few extra boos from the cancelled games, other than that you’ll find some friendly fans to have a drink with. One of the biggest disappointments from the canceled games was our TX guys were told they would get to play a game in TX as a recruiting tool.

Good thing they still got to go.

Good point! lol.

[wbtfg]

https://sfasawmill.com/forums/2/topics/2624/2

I’d be interested to know if going to an indoor practice facility and cranking up the air conditioning would replicate a cold weather game.

Given that most of your A/C systems would struggle to put out air cooler than about 50, and that most of these buildings have to have fire sprinkler systems, I'd think it would be very challenging to get a space below about 55-60 degrees with conventional systems. If you were in a colder climate like ours where you could just push in outside air, you could get colder when it's colder outside, but you still have the sprinkler issue so you might as well go outside.

I was joking

Understood, but I think it's a fair question, if the forecast for this weekend was much colder/snowy/rainy, what would a team from East Texas do to try to prepare. Buckets of ice water for offensive skilly players hands?

Weather doesn't look like it will be an issue this week

There’s not much you can realistically do except try and get things as close as possible. I was hoping the team would fly out a little sooner, at least Wednesday, so they could have at least an extra day to practice in the elements, but it looks like they’ll head out Thursday morning, giving them an evening at least to practice in it.

My bigger worry is the altitude. But this is the deepest SFA team we’ve had ever since I can remember, as depth has always been the problem with our teams, so I’m hopeful.

It does go both ways though. I remember when we played you guys in 2013 i think it was. The write up from yall said something about how yall had to deal with the sweltering 88 degree temperatures. In September in East Texas 88 degrees is a cool day, so I always have a little chuckle about it. Then again I saw people just this week in heavy coats and gloves in 50 degree weather.

Temperature shouldn't be an issue. 40 degrees when you're out running into guys is plenty warm....and Vidlak has played in cold weather, I'm sure he'll be perfectly fine. I also don't think elevation will be much of an issue. Yale seemed to be fine in the elevation. Of all the elements, the wind is one that can change a game. This week has been really windy so far...we'll see what Friday night looks like.

Crowd should be awesome....I expect a great game!

My two initial keys I'll be looking for right away are: 1. Can SFA's defense hold their own on the LOS and slow down the run game? 2. Can MSU defense limit the big plays?

[BelgradeBobcat]

Understood, but I think it's a fair question, if the forecast for this weekend was much colder/snowy/rainy, what would a team from East Texas do to try to prepare. Buckets of ice water for offensive skilly players hands?

Weather doesn't look like it will be an issue this week

I just think back to the Ash era when Sam Houston came in here on what was a much, much colder Friday night and blew the Bobcats out. Temperature won't matter at all. Wind, now that's a potential difference maker. They like to throw the ball a lot, but MSU's offense really struggled going into a light cross-headwind against Yale so that might be a push as well.

[Prodigal Cat]

Understood, but I think it's a fair question, if the forecast for this weekend was much colder/snowy/rainy, what would a team from East Texas do to try to prepare. Buckets of ice water for offensive skilly players hands?

Weather doesn't look like it will be an issue this week

I just think back to the Ash era when Sam Houston came in here on what was a much, much colder Friday night and blew the Bobcats out. Temperature won't matter at all. Wind, now that's a potential difference maker. They like to throw the ball a lot, but MSU's offense really struggled going into a light cross-headwind against Yale so that might be a push as well.

Temp as a difference maker is over blown. Both teams are dealing with it. I think the only time when it comes into play is if the northern team is noticeably better and gets out to a 2 or 3 score lead. The south team often quits, and the rout is on. Think W@M a few years ago. After the Cats got up on em a few that team wanted no part of a December game in Bobcat stadium.

[ThelumberyardSFA]

I just watched the Montana state vs Montana game from a few weeks ago. One thing that really stuck out to me was how hard the defense hits. I was also very impressed with how calm and composed Lamson looked in the pocket. Needless to say, the lumberjacks will have their hands full on both sides of the ball.

[CelticCat]

I just watched the Montana state vs Montana game from a few weeks ago. One thing that really stuck out to me was how hard the defense hits. I was also very impressed with how calm and composed Lamson looked in the pocket. Needless to say, the lumberjacks will have their hands full on both sides of the ball.

MSU plays a physical brand of defense, and surprisingly maybe the guys who want to hit the most are the secondary. They fly to the ball and are not afraid to hit.

But take the Cat/Griz game with a little grain of salt, that was an amped up rivalry game and was one of the most physical games I've seen in a while, from both sides.

I thought Yale did a good job of coming in to Bozeman and matching our physicality, and even beating it in stretches.

[luckyirishguy25]

I just watched the Montana state vs Montana game from a few weeks ago. One thing that really stuck out to me was how hard the defense hits. I was also very impressed with how calm and composed Lamson looked in the pocket. Needless to say, the lumberjacks will have their hands full on both sides of the ball.

A very good game to watch! Lamson was nails all day long with his throws and like you said our Defense is stingy, we gave up more than we usually do to the gris (I know I spelt it wrong but it's intentional!), they have a very explosive offense and it's very hard to contain. I felt ew did better than most teams that have faced them, especially at their place.

I caught the end of the ACU game, I was very impressed with your guys offense, very explosive as well. Our defense will need to be on point to slow you guys down.

[The Butcher]

I just watched the Montana state vs Montana game from a few weeks ago. One thing that really stuck out to me was how hard the defense hits. I was also very impressed with how calm and composed Lamson looked in the pocket. Needless to say, the lumberjacks will have their hands full on both sides of the ball.

MSU plays a physical brand of defense, and surprisingly maybe the guys who want to hit the most are the secondary. They fly to the ball and are not afraid to hit.

But take the Cat/Griz game with a little grain of salt, that was an amped up rivalry game and was one of the most physical games I've seen in a while, from both sides.

I thought Yale did a good job of coming in to Bozeman and matching our physicality, and even beating it in stretches.

I don’t remember an MSU secondary ever playing with this level of physicality. It’s far more common to see defensive backs shy away from contact, but this entire group seems eager to deliver the hit. These guys are flying around the field looking to make their presence felt!

[Cledus]

Understood, but I think it's a fair question, if the forecast for this weekend was much colder/snowy/rainy, what would a team from East Texas do to try to prepare. Buckets of ice water for offensive skilly players hands?

Weather doesn't look like it will be an issue this week

I just think back to the Ash era when Sam Houston came in here on what was a much, much colder Friday night and blew the Bobcats out. Temperature won't matter at all. Wind, now that's a potential difference maker. They like to throw the ball a lot, but MSU's offense really struggled going into a light cross-headwind against Yale so that might be a push as well.

Temp as a difference maker is over blown. Both teams are dealing with it. I think the only time when it comes into play is if the northern team is noticeably better and gets out to a 2 or 3 score lead. The south team often quits, and the rout is on. Think W@M a few years ago. After the Cats got up on em a few that team wanted no part of a December game in Bobcat stadium.

That was very noticeable with W&M. It didn't happen gradually, it was immediate. Once their initial adrenaline high wore off they no longer had the energy to put up a fight.

[kwcat]

I just watched the Montana state vs Montana game from a few weeks ago. One thing that really stuck out to me was how hard the defense hits. I was also very impressed with how calm and composed Lamson looked in the pocket. Needless to say, the lumberjacks will have their hands full on both sides of the ball.

MSU plays a physical brand of defense, and surprisingly maybe the guys who want to hit the most are the secondary. They fly to the ball and are not afraid to hit.

But take the Cat/Griz game with a little grain of salt, that was an amped up rivalry game and was one of the most physical games I've seen in a while, from both sides.

I thought Yale did a good job of coming in to Bozeman and matching our physicality, and even beating it in stretches.

I don’t remember an MSU secondary ever playing with this level of physicality. It’s far more common to see defensive backs shy away from contact, but this entire group seems eager to deliver the hit. These guys are flying around the field looking to make their presence felt!

The secondary was definitely the group. I was most concerned about at the beginning of the season. I know Bobcat built Texan and a couple of others were pretty positive in their outlook. I was concerned about their ability to be physical. They still have trouble at times in open field tackling, but that is a tough skill to acquire. They very well may be the difference of whether or not we continue to play as the season moves on.