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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by CelticCat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:04 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
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So, do we go press-man and send a blitz on 3rd down to make him uncomfortable? I know that is risky if the pressure doesn't get there fast enough, but I don't think we did that at all during 1.0... that led to AhYat throwing short underneath routes on 3rd down to convert relatively easily on our soft zone CBs playing 10 yards off the line. I feel like playing press to disrupt the rhythm of the quick throws, combined with the pressure of 5-6 rushers, and the hostile noise of Bobcat Stadium, it might lead to some big change of momentum sacks/INTs/fumbles.

Ah Yat has definitely never been away at a place like Bobcat Stadium, nor has he ever played in such a high stakes game(neither has Wortham or half of their team of transfer starters)... I do think he is on pace to be the Griz best QB of the last 10-15 years. But I'd be surprised if we don't see some growing pains in this game for him
This is my though process as well. It seems the conventional wisdom is to sit in cover 2 and make the griz earn every yard. Hoping they will make a mistake. But this IMHO is not the best strategy to play at home. The chances that their skill players make something out of nothing are just as high as them making mistakes as the cats sit in soft zone. The bobcat secondary players are good tacklers and capable of playing man. I say play press man predominantly and let them try to execute under pressure instead of waiting for a mistake. Let the guys fly around and play loose.
Ah Yat also has a bad knee right now and is NOT looking to run in any formidable way. That was a big part of their success in 1.0 as he picked up several first downs with his legs and scored a brilliant touchdown on the ground. Sit in that shelf and make them earn every f***ing yard.
Well according to the Nuanez brothers, his immobility is a good thing since it's forcing him to deal from the pocket.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by cats2506 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:12 pm

CelticCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:04 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:36 pm
seataccat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:09 pm
BlueAndGoldNation wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:31 am
So, do we go press-man and send a blitz on 3rd down to make him uncomfortable? I know that is risky if the pressure doesn't get there fast enough, but I don't think we did that at all during 1.0... that led to AhYat throwing short underneath routes on 3rd down to convert relatively easily on our soft zone CBs playing 10 yards off the line. I feel like playing press to disrupt the rhythm of the quick throws, combined with the pressure of 5-6 rushers, and the hostile noise of Bobcat Stadium, it might lead to some big change of momentum sacks/INTs/fumbles.

Ah Yat has definitely never been away at a place like Bobcat Stadium, nor has he ever played in such a high stakes game(neither has Wortham or half of their team of transfer starters)... I do think he is on pace to be the Griz best QB of the last 10-15 years. But I'd be surprised if we don't see some growing pains in this game for him
This is my though process as well. It seems the conventional wisdom is to sit in cover 2 and make the griz earn every yard. Hoping they will make a mistake. But this IMHO is not the best strategy to play at home. The chances that their skill players make something out of nothing are just as high as them making mistakes as the cats sit in soft zone. The bobcat secondary players are good tacklers and capable of playing man. I say play press man predominantly and let them try to execute under pressure instead of waiting for a mistake. Let the guys fly around and play loose.
Ah Yat also has a bad knee right now and is NOT looking to run in any formidable way. That was a big part of their success in 1.0 as he picked up several first downs with his legs and scored a brilliant touchdown on the ground. Sit in that shelf and make them earn every f***ing yard.
Well according to the Nuanez brothers, his immobility is a good thing since it's forcing him to deal from the pocket.
I heard that take too. delusional


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:29 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:12 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:04 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:36 pm
seataccat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:09 pm
BlueAndGoldNation wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:31 am
So, do we go press-man and send a blitz on 3rd down to make him uncomfortable? I know that is risky if the pressure doesn't get there fast enough, but I don't think we did that at all during 1.0... that led to AhYat throwing short underneath routes on 3rd down to convert relatively easily on our soft zone CBs playing 10 yards off the line. I feel like playing press to disrupt the rhythm of the quick throws, combined with the pressure of 5-6 rushers, and the hostile noise of Bobcat Stadium, it might lead to some big change of momentum sacks/INTs/fumbles.

Ah Yat has definitely never been away at a place like Bobcat Stadium, nor has he ever played in such a high stakes game(neither has Wortham or half of their team of transfer starters)... I do think he is on pace to be the Griz best QB of the last 10-15 years. But I'd be surprised if we don't see some growing pains in this game for him
This is my though process as well. It seems the conventional wisdom is to sit in cover 2 and make the griz earn every yard. Hoping they will make a mistake. But this IMHO is not the best strategy to play at home. The chances that their skill players make something out of nothing are just as high as them making mistakes as the cats sit in soft zone. The bobcat secondary players are good tacklers and capable of playing man. I say play press man predominantly and let them try to execute under pressure instead of waiting for a mistake. Let the guys fly around and play loose.
Ah Yat also has a bad knee right now and is NOT looking to run in any formidable way. That was a big part of their success in 1.0 as he picked up several first downs with his legs and scored a brilliant touchdown on the ground. Sit in that shelf and make them earn every f***ing yard.
Well according to the Nuanez brothers, his immobility is a good thing since it's forcing him to deal from the pocket.
I heard that take too. delusional
If it forces him to get the ball out quick to playmakers, it actually makes sense. If we can get a consistent, quick, pass rush with 4 rushers though, they’re in for a long day.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by ClowderUp » Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:36 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:29 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:12 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:04 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:36 pm
seataccat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:09 pm
BlueAndGoldNation wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:31 am
So, do we go press-man and send a blitz on 3rd down to make him uncomfortable? I know that is risky if the pressure doesn't get there fast enough, but I don't think we did that at all during 1.0... that led to AhYat throwing short underneath routes on 3rd down to convert relatively easily on our soft zone CBs playing 10 yards off the line. I feel like playing press to disrupt the rhythm of the quick throws, combined with the pressure of 5-6 rushers, and the hostile noise of Bobcat Stadium, it might lead to some big change of momentum sacks/INTs/fumbles.

Ah Yat has definitely never been away at a place like Bobcat Stadium, nor has he ever played in such a high stakes game(neither has Wortham or half of their team of transfer starters)... I do think he is on pace to be the Griz best QB of the last 10-15 years. But I'd be surprised if we don't see some growing pains in this game for him
This is my though process as well. It seems the conventional wisdom is to sit in cover 2 and make the griz earn every yard. Hoping they will make a mistake. But this IMHO is not the best strategy to play at home. The chances that their skill players make something out of nothing are just as high as them making mistakes as the cats sit in soft zone. The bobcat secondary players are good tacklers and capable of playing man. I say play press man predominantly and let them try to execute under pressure instead of waiting for a mistake. Let the guys fly around and play loose.
Ah Yat also has a bad knee right now and is NOT looking to run in any formidable way. That was a big part of their success in 1.0 as he picked up several first downs with his legs and scored a brilliant touchdown on the ground. Sit in that shelf and make them earn every f***ing yard.
Well according to the Nuanez brothers, his immobility is a good thing since it's forcing him to deal from the pocket.
I heard that take too. delusional
If it forces him to get the ball out quick to playmakers, it actually makes sense. If we can get a consistent, quick, pass rush with 4 rushers though, they’re in for a long day.
Pocket? What pocket were they talking about? Everything will be different for our dear friend Keali'i. Running for his life was going to be a decent play for them. Taking that off the table is very bad news for the pinks.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by catatac » Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:44 pm

Your star QB having an injured knee is really just not a good thing, at all, whatsoever. Whatever silver lining yarn they are trying to spin is completely dwarfed by all the drawbacks that come with your QB having an injured knee.
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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by BOBCATBORN » Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:47 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:44 pm
Your start QB having an injured knee is really just not a good thing, at all, whatsoever. Whatever silver lining yarn they are trying to spin is completely dwarfed by all the drawbacks that come with your QB having an injured knee.
Yep, I watched one of the best QB’s (Patrick Mahomes) try to play on an injured knee last weekend and he looked pedestrian compared to his normal self. And then he hurt himself further (a risk that is always there playing injured). I don’t know how injured his knee is but its going to impact him negatively at least some.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by wbtfg » Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:49 pm

I don't think his knee will be an issue at all. He'll be at or close to full strength.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by VimSince03 » Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:58 pm

wbtfg wrote:
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I don't think his knee will be an issue at all. He'll be at or close to full strength.
And he'll be at an Aaron Rodgers NFL level.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by CaturdayClack » Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:05 pm

Hes thrown for 665 yards and only ran for 9 yds in the 2 playoff games. Pin your ears back boys and go get him. Seems like he aint running much.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by BOBCATBORN » Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:13 pm

CaturdayClack wrote:
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Hes thrown for 665 yards and only ran for 9 yds in the 2 playoff games. Pin your ears back boys and go get him. Seems like he aint running much.
Yep, and hes hardly been touched. 1 sack in the two games. If you get to him and make him feel it, its going to make it a long day.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by nanacat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:37 pm

So, with KAY potentially injured, what are the chances that Bobby throws a big wrinkle on the Cats and plays that other QB, the one from USC? Maybe not the whole game but maybe the 2nd half? Obviously the Cats would not have done any game planning for him, so that could be part of a throwing the kitchen sink option into play. Not likely I know, but if the Cats help KAY enjoy the game on his back, and his running option he used in 1.0 is not available, what's the griz plan B?



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by Catsrgrood » Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:53 pm

nanacat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:37 pm
So, with KAY potentially injured, what are the chances that Bobby throws a big wrinkle on the Cats and plays that other QB, the one from USC? Maybe not the whole game but maybe the 2nd half? Obviously the Cats would not have done any game planning for him, so that could be part of a throwing the kitchen sink option into play. Not likely I know, but if the Cats help KAY enjoy the game on his back, and his running option he used in 1.0 is not available, what's the griz plan B?
O% chance to be precise.

He clearly isn’t 100% or he wouldn’t be wearing a brace. But I don’t think he’s all that hurt either. You don’t throw for 325 yards a game in the playoffs while significantly hurt.

They’re going to ride with him this game, as they should, unless he gets legitimately injured, which I’m not hoping for.

My hope is he’s a little less mobile than usual, our pass rush gets to him early and often and he just isn’t efficient and doesn’t have time to push the ball downfield.

But outside of a new injury happening, I’d firmly put it at 0% chance we see a different qb play at any point.( not including Wortham at wildcat)



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by Common Cat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm

I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by RockyBearCat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:07 pm

Them spinning that a hurt kah is better than a healthy kah ranks right up with losing because TA didn't play.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by wbtfg » Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:11 pm

I would not underestimate KAY. He's really evolved as a QB and a competitor. Keep doing what we do, but I wouldn't expect him to be limited in any capacity whatsoever.



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by 84CatGrad » Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:50 pm

KAY is a very good QB and I expect him to play well. (see note 1).



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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by technoCat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:59 pm

Common Cat wrote:
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I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
Sneed was a gamer.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by ilovethecats » Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:02 pm

ClowderUp wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:36 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:29 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:12 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:04 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:36 pm
seataccat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 12:09 pm
BlueAndGoldNation wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:31 am
So, do we go press-man and send a blitz on 3rd down to make him uncomfortable? I know that is risky if the pressure doesn't get there fast enough, but I don't think we did that at all during 1.0... that led to AhYat throwing short underneath routes on 3rd down to convert relatively easily on our soft zone CBs playing 10 yards off the line. I feel like playing press to disrupt the rhythm of the quick throws, combined with the pressure of 5-6 rushers, and the hostile noise of Bobcat Stadium, it might lead to some big change of momentum sacks/INTs/fumbles.

Ah Yat has definitely never been away at a place like Bobcat Stadium, nor has he ever played in such a high stakes game(neither has Wortham or half of their team of transfer starters)... I do think he is on pace to be the Griz best QB of the last 10-15 years. But I'd be surprised if we don't see some growing pains in this game for him
This is my though process as well. It seems the conventional wisdom is to sit in cover 2 and make the griz earn every yard. Hoping they will make a mistake. But this IMHO is not the best strategy to play at home. The chances that their skill players make something out of nothing are just as high as them making mistakes as the cats sit in soft zone. The bobcat secondary players are good tacklers and capable of playing man. I say play press man predominantly and let them try to execute under pressure instead of waiting for a mistake. Let the guys fly around and play loose.
Ah Yat also has a bad knee right now and is NOT looking to run in any formidable way. That was a big part of their success in 1.0 as he picked up several first downs with his legs and scored a brilliant touchdown on the ground. Sit in that shelf and make them earn every f***ing yard.
Well according to the Nuanez brothers, his immobility is a good thing since it's forcing him to deal from the pocket.
I heard that take too. delusional
If it forces him to get the ball out quick to playmakers, it actually makes sense. If we can get a consistent, quick, pass rush with 4 rushers though, they’re in for a long day.
Pocket? What pocket were they talking about? Everything will be different for our dear friend Keali'i. Running for his life was going to be a decent play for them. Taking that off the table is very bad news for the pinks.
Not so fast my friend. Maybe you haven’t heard they have Loud back? You may think he’d just impact the defense. But a player of his infinite caliber will highly impact Ah Yats play as well.

Loud is truly more amazing than any player we have ever witnessed.
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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by Common Cat » Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:04 pm

technoCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:59 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
Sneed was a gamer.
Fair. Sneed played well until he threw that int to Konkol. Nonetheless, I don’t see Kay struggling unless MSU disguises coverage and puts him off his spot.


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Re: Will Ah Yat Struggle

Post by 84CatGrad » Thu Dec 18, 2025 4:06 pm

technoCat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:59 pm
Common Cat wrote:
Thu Dec 18, 2025 3:05 pm
I doubt he struggles. He’s certainly a great qb- gamers game.
Sneed was a gamer.
My favorite Sneed play was when he scrambled and fumbled, recovered by Collins.



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