Cat-Griz 2.0

[OldGriz]

Sports Bet MT opened with cats -5.5 favorites. This is going to be an epic brawl. I see the gris moving away from the 4-5 yrd pass in the flats they did in Brawl 1.0 by taking more downfield shots and they will try again to attack our lb’s in the pass game. We just need to limit mistakes, play sound and win by 1 effing point. However, It’d be awesome if we win by 21.

The spread being so low (-5.5) means it’s purely a home field advantage in the oddsmakers’ view. I’m not as confident as the house. I think the Cats are better and would bet them at home or on a neutral field. However, I can always be wrong. This game will show us which team is better for sure. Why do I sense that if the Griz win, a lot of posters here will say all that loser crap like, “We’re still better, we didn’t play well, yada yada, blah blah??” Can’t we at least agree that the better team wins this Saturday?

I didn’t hear any of those kinds of excuses from the Griz fans three weeks ago. Unreal.

What excuses? What’s unreal? The better team wins this Saturday, correct?

[Bobcat Sig]

We need an exclamation point type victory next week. Not a 3 point win but a multiple score victory. No excuses from them or their fans when we send them packin. Everyone involved with them from their team to fans are overconfident.

Their excuse from the Brawl was to remove plays that hurt them. That is no different than saying, we will take away a TD from them because we missed a tackle or they should have dropped a pass. Every play counts. People never talk about a missed block that could have changed a game early, or the wrong choice on an RPO.

Champions do not make excuses. Champions look at themselves and find a way to be better next time. As a fanbase be a Champion as well.

Winners focus on winning. Losers focus on winners

[catatac]

I have an idea they will come into Bobcat stadium very overconfident. I mean they "only lost by 3 points" the last time we played them, and they've been dominating teams in the playoffs, where the Cats games have been closer, especially Yale. They will come in with a giant killers mentality, cocky and arrogant. I think the game could also get chippy, because Bobby coaches his players to be dirty, twist ankles and stuff. They may target Davis too. This week in practice I'm hoping Vigen and company fully prepare the team for all the possibilities as I'm sure Bobby will try to throw the kitchen sink at us.

No way?

[catapult]

Sports Bet MT opened with cats -5.5 favorites. This is going to be an epic brawl. I see the gris moving away from the 4-5 yrd pass in the flats they did in Brawl 1.0 by taking more downfield shots and they will try again to attack our lb’s in the pass game. We just need to limit mistakes, play sound and win by 1 effing point. However, It’d be awesome if we win by 21.

The spread being so low (-5.5) means it’s purely a home field advantage in the oddsmakers’ view. I’m not as confident as the house. I think the Cats are better and would bet them at home or on a neutral field. However, I can always be wrong. This game will show us which team is better for sure. Why do I sense that if the Griz win, a lot of posters here will say all that loser crap like, “We’re still better, we didn’t play well, yada yada, blah blah??” Can’t we at least agree that the better team wins this Saturday?

The narrative of home field getting 5.5-6 points is absolutely incorrect. Home field advantage is worth 2.5-3 points. Obviously the team that makes the plays will win and by default the better team that day. In the Brawl 1.0, the Cats did just that and all signs point to a repeat Cat performance in Brawl 2.0. Cats win this game again, by how much is TBD.

[OldGriz]

Sports Bet MT opened with cats -5.5 favorites. This is going to be an epic brawl. I see the gris moving away from the 4-5 yrd pass in the flats they did in Brawl 1.0 by taking more downfield shots and they will try again to attack our lb’s in the pass game. We just need to limit mistakes, play sound and win by 1 effing point. However, It’d be awesome if we win by 21.

The spread being so low (-5.5) means it’s purely a home field advantage in the oddsmakers’ view. I’m not as confident as the house. I think the Cats are better and would bet them at home or on a neutral field. However, I can always be wrong. This game will show us which team is better for sure. Why do I sense that if the Griz win, a lot of posters here will say all that loser crap like, “We’re still better, we didn’t play well, yada yada, blah blah??” Can’t we at least agree that the better team wins this Saturday?

The narrative of home field getting 5.5-6 points is absolutely incorrect. Home field advantage is worth 2.5-3 points. Obviously the team that makes the plays will win and by default the better team that day. In the Brawl 1.0, the Cats did just that and all signs point to a repeat Cat performance in Brawl 2.0. Cats win this game again, by how much is TBD.

So the team that wins is only the better team for that day?

[RyeCat]

This game might be like the Yellowstone Super Volcano and destroy the whole state before Saturday.

[HookedOnGriz]

Hyped up Griz run defense coming into Bobcat Stadium. What could go wrong for them...

I hear they’re going to have a team meal at the Kountry Korner because Tuilaupupu can get a senior discount.

Will Julius Davis be there? 7th season for him correct? Maybe they can have a coach vs Davis WWF event too!

Hey now. You’re messing up my bit.

And no, he won’t. He had a fight with the wait staff last time and isn’t welcome back.

Well played!

[BlueAndGoldNation]

Sports Bet MT opened with cats -5.5 favorites. This is going to be an epic brawl. I see the gris moving away from the 4-5 yrd pass in the flats they did in Brawl 1.0 by taking more downfield shots and they will try again to attack our lb’s in the pass game. We just need to limit mistakes, play sound and win by 1 effing point. However, It’d be awesome if we win by 21.

The spread being so low (-5.5) means it’s purely a home field advantage in the oddsmakers’ view. I’m not as confident as the house. I think the Cats are better and would bet them at home or on a neutral field. However, I can always be wrong. This game will show us which team is better for sure. Why do I sense that if the Griz win, a lot of posters here will say all that loser crap like, “We’re still better, we didn’t play well, yada yada, blah blah??” Can’t we at least agree that the better team wins this Saturday?

The narrative of home field getting 5.5-6 points is absolutely incorrect. Home field advantage is worth 2.5-3 points. Obviously the team that makes the plays will win and by default the better team that day. In the Brawl 1.0, the Cats did just that and all signs point to a repeat Cat performance in Brawl 2.0. Cats win this game again, by how much is TBD.

So the team that wins is only the better team for that day?

Illinois State's team is not better than NDSU's team this year. NDSU beat the Redbirds at their place earlier this year. We all saw how the rematch went. As unlikely as it was for the worse team to win at a fortress like the Fargodome, Illinois State reminded us that anything can be possible when the better team doesn't show up to play on that day. Are the Griz the better team even though they lost to the Cats at home? I don't think so, but I can see some reasoning behind why Griz fans would think that...

I fully believe this happened in Frisco last year. NDSU showed up in the first half, and we didn't. When we started rolling in the second half and woke up, we showed that we were in fact the better team. There was a reason we were undefeated last year, and beat almost every team we came across by 20, including the team that beat NDSU.

It's not always that the best team wins, it's the team that shows up on the day that wins. MSU has a great track record of showing up at home, especially against the Griz. Griz haven't showed they can go to Bozeman and "show up" since 2015... If we count this as the National Title game that it should be, then I know Vigen is 0-2 in national title games, but that was NDSU as his opponent. Hauck is 0-4, 3 of those losses before the NDSU dynasty...That's why I like MSUs chances in this one. We seem to have a bit more consistency of showing up on big games...

[OldGriz]

This game might be like the Yellowstone Super Volcano and destroy the whole state before Saturday.

I can’t believe it’s so hard for people to say the winner of Saturday’s game will be the better team. Isn’t this America? No hedging. None of that “we’re better but we didn’t play well” crap. If you can’t say the best team wins, why even play the game? (Not you, Rye. I’m shooting over your shoulder.)

[OldGriz]

Sports Bet MT opened with cats -5.5 favorites. This is going to be an epic brawl. I see the gris moving away from the 4-5 yrd pass in the flats they did in Brawl 1.0 by taking more downfield shots and they will try again to attack our lb’s in the pass game. We just need to limit mistakes, play sound and win by 1 effing point. However, It’d be awesome if we win by 21.

The spread being so low (-5.5) means it’s purely a home field advantage in the oddsmakers’ view. I’m not as confident as the house. I think the Cats are better and would bet them at home or on a neutral field. However, I can always be wrong. This game will show us which team is better for sure. Why do I sense that if the Griz win, a lot of posters here will say all that loser crap like, “We’re still better, we didn’t play well, yada yada, blah blah??” Can’t we at least agree that the better team wins this Saturday?

The narrative of home field getting 5.5-6 points is absolutely incorrect. Home field advantage is worth 2.5-3 points. Obviously the team that makes the plays will win and by default the better team that day. In the Brawl 1.0, the Cats did just that and all signs point to a repeat Cat performance in Brawl 2.0. Cats win this game again, by how much is TBD.

So the team that wins is only the better team for that day?

Illinois State's team is not better than NDSU's team this year. NDSU beat the Redbirds at their place earlier this year. We all saw how the rematch went. As unlikely as it was for the worse team to win at a fortress like the Fargodome, Illinois State reminded us that anything can be possible when the better team doesn't show up to play on that day. Are the Griz the better team even though they lost to the Cats at home? I don't think so, but I can see some reasoning behind why Griz fans would think that...

I fully believe this happened in Frisco last year. NDSU showed up in the first half, and we didn't. When we started rolling in the second half and woke up, we showed that we were in fact the better team. There was a reason we were undefeated last year, and beat almost every team we came across by 20, including the team that beat NDSU.

It's not always that the best team wins, it's the team that shows up on the day that wins. MSU has a great track record of showing up at home, especially against the Griz. Griz haven't showed they can go to Bozeman and "show up" since 2015... If we count this as the National Title game that it should be, then I know Vigen is 0-2 in national title games, but that was NDSU as his opponent. Hauck is 0-4, 3 of those losses before the NDSU dynasty...That's why I like MSUs chances in this one. We seem to have a bit more consistency of showing up on big games...

So the best a winning team can say is something like “we were better on that day?”

[Monymony]

Weather looking like high 30s and rain/snow. I want it to rain so hard.

[BlueAndGoldNation]

Sports Bet MT opened with cats -5.5 favorites. This is going to be an epic brawl. I see the gris moving away from the 4-5 yrd pass in the flats they did in Brawl 1.0 by taking more downfield shots and they will try again to attack our lb’s in the pass game. We just need to limit mistakes, play sound and win by 1 effing point. However, It’d be awesome if we win by 21.

The spread being so low (-5.5) means it’s purely a home field advantage in the oddsmakers’ view. I’m not as confident as the house. I think the Cats are better and would bet them at home or on a neutral field. However, I can always be wrong. This game will show us which team is better for sure. Why do I sense that if the Griz win, a lot of posters here will say all that loser crap like, “We’re still better, we didn’t play well, yada yada, blah blah??” Can’t we at least agree that the better team wins this Saturday?

The narrative of home field getting 5.5-6 points is absolutely incorrect. Home field advantage is worth 2.5-3 points. Obviously the team that makes the plays will win and by default the better team that day. In the Brawl 1.0, the Cats did just that and all signs point to a repeat Cat performance in Brawl 2.0. Cats win this game again, by how much is TBD.

So the team that wins is only the better team for that day?

Illinois State's team is not better than NDSU's team this year. NDSU beat the Redbirds at their place earlier this year. We all saw how the rematch went. As unlikely as it was for the worse team to win at a fortress like the Fargodome, Illinois State reminded us that anything can be possible when the better team doesn't show up to play on that day. Are the Griz the better team even though they lost to the Cats at home? I don't think so, but I can see some reasoning behind why Griz fans would think that...

I fully believe this happened in Frisco last year. NDSU showed up in the first half, and we didn't. When we started rolling in the second half and woke up, we showed that we were in fact the better team. There was a reason we were undefeated last year, and beat almost every team we came across by 20, including the team that beat NDSU.

It's not always that the best team wins, it's the team that shows up on the day that wins. MSU has a great track record of showing up at home, especially against the Griz. Griz haven't showed they can go to Bozeman and "show up" since 2015... If we count this as the National Title game that it should be, then I know Vigen is 0-2 in national title games, but that was NDSU as his opponent. Hauck is 0-4, 3 of those losses before the NDSU dynasty...That's why I like MSUs chances in this one. We seem to have a bit more consistency of showing up on big games...

So the best a winning team can say is something like “we were better on that day?”

I'd actually argue that the Cats and the Griz in Missoula both showed up in that game. If both teams show up, and one wins, especially when away from home... I think you can argue that the winning team is the better team in general... It's tough to tell though. The Griz have a very talented top heavy team. I've been impressed with how they have grown throughout the year. If the Griz come in and beat us, fair play and I will say you guys deserved it. I just don't see it happening.

[OldGriz]

Sports Bet MT opened with cats -5.5 favorites. This is going to be an epic brawl. I see the gris moving away from the 4-5 yrd pass in the flats they did in Brawl 1.0 by taking more downfield shots and they will try again to attack our lb’s in the pass game. We just need to limit mistakes, play sound and win by 1 effing point. However, It’d be awesome if we win by 21.

The spread being so low (-5.5) means it’s purely a home field advantage in the oddsmakers’ view. I’m not as confident as the house. I think the Cats are better and would bet them at home or on a neutral field. However, I can always be wrong. This game will show us which team is better for sure. Why do I sense that if the Griz win, a lot of posters here will say all that loser crap like, “We’re still better, we didn’t play well, yada yada, blah blah??” Can’t we at least agree that the better team wins this Saturday?

The narrative of home field getting 5.5-6 points is absolutely incorrect. Home field advantage is worth 2.5-3 points. Obviously the team that makes the plays will win and by default the better team that day. In the Brawl 1.0, the Cats did just that and all signs point to a repeat Cat performance in Brawl 2.0. Cats win this game again, by how much is TBD.

So the team that wins is only the better team for that day?

Illinois State's team is not better than NDSU's team this year. NDSU beat the Redbirds at their place earlier this year. We all saw how the rematch went. As unlikely as it was for the worse team to win at a fortress like the Fargodome, Illinois State reminded us that anything can be possible when the better team doesn't show up to play on that day. Are the Griz the better team even though they lost to the Cats at home? I don't think so, but I can see some reasoning behind why Griz fans would think that...

I fully believe this happened in Frisco last year. NDSU showed up in the first half, and we didn't. When we started rolling in the second half and woke up, we showed that we were in fact the better team. There was a reason we were undefeated last year, and beat almost every team we came across by 20, including the team that beat NDSU.

It's not always that the best team wins, it's the team that shows up on the day that wins. MSU has a great track record of showing up at home, especially against the Griz. Griz haven't showed they can go to Bozeman and "show up" since 2015... If we count this as the National Title game that it should be, then I know Vigen is 0-2 in national title games, but that was NDSU as his opponent. Hauck is 0-4, 3 of those losses before the NDSU dynasty...That's why I like MSUs chances in this one. We seem to have a bit more consistency of showing up on big games...

So the best a winning team can say is something like “we were better on that day?”

I'd actually argue that the Cats and the Griz in Missoula both showed up in that game. If both teams show up, and one wins, especially when away from home... I think you can argue that the winning team is the better team in general... It's tough to tell though. The Griz have a very talented top heavy team. I've been impressed with how they have grown throughout the year. If the Griz come in and beat us, fair play and I will say you guys deserved it. I just don't see it happening.

100% agree

[HookedOnGriz]

Weather looking like high 30s and rain/snow. I want it to rain so hard.

From the early forecasts, looks like rain in the early morning then none. 38 degeees is balmy for December.

[catatac]

This game might be like the Yellowstone Super Volcano and destroy the whole state before Saturday.

I can’t believe it’s so hard for people to say the winner of Saturday’s game will be the better team. Isn’t this America? No hedging. None of that “we’re better but we didn’t play well” crap. If you can’t say the best team wins, why even play the game? (Not you, Rye. I’m shooting over your shoulder.)

Not sure if I'm following your logic but I'll play along. Cats already proved they're the better team, by winning in Missoula. So now we get a 2nd game and obviously if the Cats win it won't change anything but if the Griz win then I'll guess we'll say the teams are exactly tied, totally equal. Fair?

[OldGriz]

This game might be like the Yellowstone Super Volcano and destroy the whole state before Saturday.

I can’t believe it’s so hard for people to say the winner of Saturday’s game will be the better team. Isn’t this America? No hedging. None of that “we’re better but we didn’t play well” crap. If you can’t say the best team wins, why even play the game? (Not you, Rye. I’m shooting over your shoulder.)

Not sure if I'm following your logic but I'll play along. Cats already proved they're the better team, by winning in Missoula. So now we get a 2nd game and obviously if the Cats win it won't change anything but if the Griz win then I'll guess we'll say the teams are exactly tied, totally equal. Fair?

I don’t think it works that way because then we’d have to say it’s 74-44 and the Cats have a lot of games to win to catch up. I agree with BlueAndGoldNation (above). If we can’t say the winner of the next game is the better team, why even play the game?

[BOBCATBORN]

This game might be like the Yellowstone Super Volcano and destroy the whole state before Saturday.

I can’t believe it’s so hard for people to say the winner of Saturday’s game will be the better team. Isn’t this America? No hedging. None of that “we’re better but we didn’t play well” crap. If you can’t say the best team wins, why even play the game? (Not you, Rye. I’m shooting over your shoulder.)

Not sure if I'm following your logic but I'll play along. Cats already proved they're the better team, by winning in Missoula. So now we get a 2nd game and obviously if the Cats win it won't change anything but if the Griz win then I'll guess we'll say the teams are exactly tied, totally equal. Fair?

I don’t think it works that way because then we’d have to say it’s 74-44 and the Cats have a lot of games to win to catch up. I agree with BlueAndGoldNation (above). If we can’t say the winner of the next game is the better team, why even play the game?

So you're going to count when they weren't even in the same division? I see what kind of a gris fan you are. The Gris should be way ahead in the rivalry if you are counting those games - its also probably why the gris continue to schedule a yearly D-2 game, gotta keep those win stats up.

[OldGriz]

This game might be like the Yellowstone Super Volcano and destroy the whole state before Saturday.

I can’t believe it’s so hard for people to say the winner of Saturday’s game will be the better team. Isn’t this America? No hedging. None of that “we’re better but we didn’t play well” crap. If you can’t say the best team wins, why even play the game? (Not you, Rye. I’m shooting over your shoulder.)

Not sure if I'm following your logic but I'll play along. Cats already proved they're the better team, by winning in Missoula. So now we get a 2nd game and obviously if the Cats win it won't change anything but if the Griz win then I'll guess we'll say the teams are exactly tied, totally equal. Fair?

I don’t think it works that way because then we’d have to say it’s 74-44 and the Cats have a lot of games to win to catch up. I agree with BlueAndGoldNation (above). If we can’t say the winner of the next game is the better team, why even play the game?

So you're going to count when they weren't even in the same division? I see what kind of a gris fan you are. The Gris should be way ahead in the rivalry if you are counting those games - its also probably why the gris continue to schedule a yearly D-2 game, gotta keep those win stats up.

You missed the point. I’m the guy who DOESN’T want to look backward more than one game. Then you agree with me that the winner of Saturday’s game is the better team?

[BOBCATBORN]

This game might be like the Yellowstone Super Volcano and destroy the whole state before Saturday.

I can’t believe it’s so hard for people to say the winner of Saturday’s game will be the better team. Isn’t this America? No hedging. None of that “we’re better but we didn’t play well” crap. If you can’t say the best team wins, why even play the game? (Not you, Rye. I’m shooting over your shoulder.)

Not sure if I'm following your logic but I'll play along. Cats already proved they're the better team, by winning in Missoula. So now we get a 2nd game and obviously if the Cats win it won't change anything but if the Griz win then I'll guess we'll say the teams are exactly tied, totally equal. Fair?

I don’t think it works that way because then we’d have to say it’s 74-44 and the Cats have a lot of games to win to catch up. I agree with BlueAndGoldNation (above). If we can’t say the winner of the next game is the better team, why even play the game?

So you're going to count when they weren't even in the same division? I see what kind of a gris fan you are. The Gris should be way ahead in the rivalry if you are counting those games - its also probably why the gris continue to schedule a yearly D-2 game, gotta keep those win stats up.

You missed the point. I’m the guy who DOESN’T want to look backward more than one game. Then you agree with me that the winner of Saturday’s game is the better team?

No I don't. Or else why use the terminology "upset". It completely defeats the point. The best team DOESN'T always win. You think that when
Maryland got upset by the Baltimore County (UMBC) Retrievers that the Retrievers were the better team? No, they weren't, but they showed up that day and took down Maryland. That's the beauty of sports. What I will say is that right now the Cats are the better team (and are favored as such), but if the gris win, then good on them but its considered an upset. It's not a slight, just what it is.

[JaredSamCats95]

I asked chat gpt for a score prediction and this is what it said.
Predicted Final Score
Montana State Bobcats 28 — Montana Grizzlies 24
Why this projection?
Montana State is hosting and enters with strong playoff momentum after a convincing quarterfinal win (44–28 vs. Stephen F. Austin).
SI
+1
Montana comes in hot too, blowing out South Dakota 52–22 to reach the semifinals.
Big Rapids News
The rivalry matchup historically tends to be close and competitive, and this season’s two teams are evenly matched — the Bobcats have the slight edge with home field and experience, while the Grizzlies’ high-flying offense keeps them in it.
What this means in context:
Expect a tight, back-and-forth game, where turnovers or a late defensive stop could decide it. A final score like 28–24 reflects a balanced offensive outing from both sides with a slight edge to MSU’s ability to control key moments.