OPY, DPY, NOY

[BOBCATBORN]

I know the gris are losing lots of seniors. Does Wortham have one more season? Would be a hoot if he got an NIL offer he couldn’t resist, although he didn’t have a great year overall, but a good year, IMHO…

No he’s done after this year.

[onceacat]

I would not argue with Gilman getting the award. He runs behind a mediocre OL and still produces at a high level. Threat in the passing game. Stellar player.

Hammond from Sac has more ypc, more total yards, more carries....and runs behind a worse O-line. And Davis is every bit as good as Gillman, including blocking (although Gillman is better receiving out of the backfield).

But the default is to give the award to either a future NFL player (Cam Skattaboo) or the best QB in the conference. Theres a coin flip between Pinnick and Lamson on that front, but given the Cats record, its gonna be really hard NOT to award it to Lamson.

[MSU01]

I know the gris are losing lots of seniors. Does Wortham have one more season? Would be a hoot if he got an NIL offer he couldn’t resist, although he didn’t have a great year overall, but a good year, IMHO…

No he’s done after this year.

Maybe. Entirely possible that there's a ruling in the off-season about JC years not counting against NCAA eligibility.

[BOBCATBORN]

I know the gris are losing lots of seniors. Does Wortham have one more season? Would be a hoot if he got an NIL offer he couldn’t resist, although he didn’t have a great year overall, but a good year, IMHO…

No he’s done after this year.

Maybe. Entirely possible that there's a ruling in the off-season about JC years not counting against NCAA eligibility.

I was pretty sure he was already granted that extra year? Unless he could get another year on top of it? How many years are they going to let these kids play.

[1890Griz]

Griz nation a month ago thought they had 3 Payton winners. Now none will win the the conference OPY. Life comes at you fast.

Gillman will win conference OPY, he dominated the cats and every other team he has played. He is the best back in the big Sky by a wide margin. Davis is second followed by an even bigger gap

Dominated? He had one run that doubled his yards. He was good. As advertised. But I disagree he dominated...

He consistently had 10 yard runs and that run still happened. You have to factor in all of his rushes, good players produce in big moments and Gillman did just that. 8+ YPC and had a nasty pancake block early in the game

Surprised your up and posting after the late night.

I’m not one to shy away, I was born a Griz and will die a Griz. Also helps I don’t drink on gameday, I saw several Griz and cat fans too drunk to stand

[tetoncat]

I would not argue with Gilman getting the award. He runs behind a mediocre OL and still produces at a high level. Threat in the passing game. Stellar player.

Hammond from Sac has more ypc, more total yards, more carries....and runs behind a worse O-line. And Davis is every bit as good as Gillman, including blocking (although Gillman is better receiving out of the backfield).

But the default is to give the award to either a future NFL player (Cam Skattaboo) or the best QB in the conference. Theres a coin flip between Pinnick and Lamson on that front, but given the Cats record, its gonna be really hard NOT to award it to Lamson.

Pinnick missed some time and struggled when he came back. Loss to ISU was bad.

[onceacat]

I would not argue with Gilman getting the award. He runs behind a mediocre OL and still produces at a high level. Threat in the passing game. Stellar player.

Hammond from Sac has more ypc, more total yards, more carries....and runs behind a worse O-line. And Davis is every bit as good as Gillman, including blocking (although Gillman is better receiving out of the backfield).

But the default is to give the award to either a future NFL player (Cam Skattaboo) or the best QB in the conference. Theres a coin flip between Pinnick and Lamson on that front, but given the Cats record, its gonna be really hard NOT to award it to Lamson.

Pinnick missed some time and struggled when he came back. Loss to ISU was bad.

Agreed. And Lamson was lights out against 2 top 8 teams to finish the season.

[MrGoodKat]

I would not argue with Gilman getting the award. He runs behind a mediocre OL and still produces at a high level. Threat in the passing game. Stellar player.

Hammond from Sac has more ypc, more total yards, more carries....and runs behind a worse O-line. And Davis is every bit as good as Gillman, including blocking (although Gillman is better receiving out of the backfield).

But the default is to give the award to either a future NFL player (Cam Skattaboo) or the best QB in the conference. Theres a coin flip between Pinnick and Lamson on that front, but given the Cats record, its gonna be really hard NOT to award it to Lamson.

I don't know anything about the Sac State offensive line, but I do know that running backs benefit from playing in offenses where the QB is a rushing threat.

I love Julius Davis, but I don't think he's as good as Gilman. I personally think Gilman would average 10.0 YPC behind the Cats' offensive line.

I am all for Lamson winning it. I just respect the special talent that Gilman is and I don't think he would be undeserving.

[mslacatfan]

When are these awards announced?

[coloradocat]

Grace Lawrence mentioned in one of her spots that BSC awards come out later this week. I assume that means tomorrow.

[TomCat88]

When are these awards announced?

Colter told me tomorrow.

I have to think it'll be Dowler and Lamson as the offensive and defensive POYs. I don't know if the BSC gives one player two awards, so they might give newcomer to Wortham. I can't see them doing it the other way around.

[TomCat88]

I think Dowler (PR), Fleischmann and Reed are strong candidates for first team on offense. Brott, Dowler, Eiden IV, Gray on defense. I think MSU plays so many CBs and LBs and Davis/Jones splitting that they won't get better than 2nd team.

[94VegasCat]

When are these awards announced?

Colter told me tomorrow.

I have to think it'll be Dowler and Lamson as the offensive and defensive POYs. I don't know if the BSC gives one player two awards, so they might give newcomer to Wortham. I can't see them doing it the other way around.

Wortham isn’t a newcomer. He played at ewuuu first.

[catapult]

When are these awards announced?

Colter told me tomorrow.

I have to think it'll be Dowler and Lamson as the offensive and defensive POYs. I don't know if the BSC gives one player two awards, so they might give newcomer to Wortham. I can't see them doing it the other way around.

Wortham isn't a newcomer to the Big Sky, he won't get it. It should be Lamson by a mile.

[TomCat88]

When are these awards announced?

Colter told me tomorrow.

I have to think it'll be Dowler and Lamson as the offensive and defensive POYs. I don't know if the BSC gives one player two awards, so they might give newcomer to Wortham. I can't see them doing it the other way around.

Wortham isn't a newcomer to the Big Sky, he won't get it. It should be Lamson by a mile.

Oh yeah! Duh.

[coloradocat]

Is Newcomer in regards to the conference or the team? Is there a true definition?

[TomCat88]

Is Newcomer in regards to the conference or the team? Is there a true definition?

I'd think if its the "Big Sky" newcomer of the year, then it's the conference. But who knows?

[Prodigal Cat]

Is Newcomer in regards to the conference or the team? Is there a true definition?

It’s new to the conference. Clifton McDowell won it in 2023, Pennington from NAU won it last year. Both had played elsewhere.

[tetoncat]

I think Dowler wins but not Lamson. He should over Ah Yat and Wortham. I would give to Gillman statistically. They did a good hype train on Wortham, but if you take out his returns he is not even close to best offensive player on his team let alone the conference