Mountain West Conference meeting

[aucat]

Thanks for the very insightful comments. It is a very complex time in college football to say the least. I agree that as long as the Bobcats produce teams that can be competitive that we would have good crowds. However, let's focus on a serious issue and that has to do with financial resources. If you haven't seen the recent pressers by Clemson coach Dabo Swinney regarding his recent experience with player tampering and "upping the ante" then you really ought to take a look. The further we move up, the more we are going to get into this "money rules" environment. I have no idea what our current players are getting. I'm assuming that since MOST of them are not headed for the NFL, it is not a ton. The system is out of control with the "big boys" right now. Indiana somehow had a miracle year apparently without all of the glamour recruits but I have to believe that will not be the norm. Right now it is so refreshing to see MOST of our players from in state and they actually stay at MSU and graduate. Sure we have some portal action both ways, but it pales compared to the higher level financially rich schools. I'm not a Clemson or Swinney fan but I can certainly empathize with what he went through with this particular situation. And as he says, where is the accountability?

[allcat]

For those wanting to move up this is a great discussion. When they do the realignment, consider what is going to happen. The g6 coaches get a lot more money than ours. To move up means those g6 guys are not going to get a pay cut. If we want to play with them all of our costs are going up, that ties in with ticket prices. It is going to cost a lot of money play that game and I don't think tv revenyis going to make up the difference.
Them there are the Portland, Eastern, Uncu, and maybe others in our conference that won't be able to pay the price.

[CelticCat]

Let me ask everyone this - how do we feel once NDSU, SDSU, Tartleton, UC Davis, are gone?

It would just be MSU, UM, and whatever MVFC schools catch fire that year in the final 4 every year. It feels impossible now, but it will get boring, as others have said - look at NDSU.

[tetoncat]

Let me ask everyone this - how do we feel once NDSU, SDSU, Tartleton, UC Davis, are gone?

It would just be MSU, UM, and whatever MVFC schools catch fire that year in the final 4 every year. It feels impossible now, but it will get boring, as others have said - look at NDSU.

Tarleton is new, NDSU is relatively new to FCS.both show with Financial commitment you can succeed or be competitive. Are there D2 or FCS teams who can replace them.

[allcat]

For those wanting to move up this is a great discussion. When they do the realignment, consider what is going to happen. The g6 coaches get a lot more money than ours. To move up means those g6 guys are not going to get a pay cut. If we want to play with them all of our costs are going up, that ties in with ticket prices. It is going to cost a lot of money play that game and I don't think tv revenyis going to make up the difference.
Them there are the Portland, Eastern, Uncu, and maybe others in our conference that won't be able to pay the price.

None of them actually have a timeline for a move, do they? There are a lot of rumors, but they actually pay a steep price once they announce. They don't get to be in the playoffs for 2 years and then they aren't bowl eligible once they move. Sacramento went out on their island and have lost all of their bargaining power.

[luckyirishguy25]

Let me ask everyone this - how do we feel once NDSU, SDSU, Tartleton, UC Davis, are gone?

It would just be MSU, UM, and whatever MVFC schools catch fire that year in the final 4 every year. It feels impossible now, but it will get boring, as others have said - look at NDSU.

Tarleton is new, NDSU is relatively new to FCS.both show with Financial commitment you can succeed or be competitive. Are there D2 or FCS teams who can replace them.

Tarleton and NDSU have actual fans. You're not replacing them with any D2 or FCS team, once they're gone the FCS will get blander than it already is.

[thisnamesucks]

For those wanting to move up this is a great discussion. When they do the realignment, consider what is going to happen. The g6 coaches get a lot more money than ours. To move up means those g6 guys are not going to get a pay cut. If we want to play with them all of our costs are going up, that ties in with ticket prices. It is going to cost a lot of money play that game and I don't think tv revenyis going to make up the difference.
Them there are the Portland, Eastern, Uncu, and maybe others in our conference that won't be able to pay the price.

When it does inevitably happen, I’d be curious to know how much money from TV et al is left over for the G6 groups. I assume the vast majority of it is going to go to the new B10SEC super league leaving reduced amounts to the G6.

[tetoncat]

Let me ask everyone this - how do we feel once NDSU, SDSU, Tartleton, UC Davis, are gone?

It would just be MSU, UM, and whatever MVFC schools catch fire that year in the final 4 every year. It feels impossible now, but it will get boring, as others have said - look at NDSU.

Tarleton is new, NDSU is relatively new to FCS.both show with Financial commitment you can succeed or be competitive. Are there D2 or FCS teams who can replace them.

Tarleton and NDSU have actual fans. You're not replacing them with any D2 or FCS team, once they're gone the FCS will get blander than it already is.

Maybe. NDSU was D2 not that long ago and no one expected them to come in and dominate like they did. 20 years ago none of the teams listed were a factor in FCS including the Cats.

[luckyirishguy25]

Let me ask everyone this - how do we feel once NDSU, SDSU, Tartleton, UC Davis, are gone?

It would just be MSU, UM, and whatever MVFC schools catch fire that year in the final 4 every year. It feels impossible now, but it will get boring, as others have said - look at NDSU.

Tarleton is new, NDSU is relatively new to FCS.both show with Financial commitment you can succeed or be competitive. Are there D2 or FCS teams who can replace them.

Tarleton and NDSU have actual fans. You're not replacing them with any D2 or FCS team, once they're gone the FCS will get blander than it already is.

Maybe. NDSU was D2 not that long ago and no one expected them to come in and dominate like they did. 20 years ago none of the teams listed were a factor in FCS including the Cats.

Ndsu is newer to the scene but again, they have what most FCS teams lack, a fan base.

[AFCAT]

For those wanting to move up this is a great discussion. When they do the realignment, consider what is going to happen. The g6 coaches get a lot more money than ours. To move up means those g6 guys are not going to get a pay cut. If we want to play with them all of our costs are going up, that ties in with ticket prices. It is going to cost a lot of money play that game and I don't think tv revenyis going to make up the difference.
Them there are the Portland, Eastern, Uncu, and maybe others in our conference that won't be able to pay the price.

TV revenue won’t pay for it and it’s not a steady and reliable source anyway. The Cats will need help from state government and an increase in student fees among other revenue increases, like ticket prices.

[wapiti]

For those wanting to move up this is a great discussion. When they do the realignment, consider what is going to happen. The g6 coaches get a lot more money than ours. To move up means those g6 guys are not going to get a pay cut. If we want to play with them all of our costs are going up, that ties in with ticket prices. It is going to cost a lot of money play that game and I don't think tv revenyis going to make up the difference.
Them there are the Portland, Eastern, Uncu, and maybe others in our conference that won't be able to pay the price.

TV revenue won’t pay for it and it’s not a steady and reliable source anyway. The Cats will need help from state government and an increase in student fees among other revenue increases, like ticket prices.

I think MSU need to focus on improving the food in the concessions. $17 for a crappy burger and ok fries is highway robbery.

The food is a part of the game day experience and the food is awful and way over priced for what is served.

[wbtfg]

For those wanting to move up this is a great discussion. When they do the realignment, consider what is going to happen. The g6 coaches get a lot more money than ours. To move up means those g6 guys are not going to get a pay cut. If we want to play with them all of our costs are going up, that ties in with ticket prices. It is going to cost a lot of money play that game and I don't think tv revenyis going to make up the difference.
Them there are the Portland, Eastern, Uncu, and maybe others in our conference that won't be able to pay the price.

TV revenue won’t pay for it and it’s not a steady and reliable source anyway. The Cats will need help from state government and an increase in student fees among other revenue increases, like ticket prices.

I think MSU need to focus on improving the food in the concessions. $17 for a crappy burger and ok fries is highway robbery.

The food is a part of the game day experience and the food is awful and way over priced for what is served.

Concession stand quality and price are always a hot topic. I'm curious, if you were the concession manager, what changes would you make to for a better game day experience? Also, should the goal of the concession stand to be to maximize profits or should the goal be to provide a non-profit service?

[St George]

Let me ask everyone this - how do we feel once NDSU, SDSU, Tartleton, UC Davis, are gone?

And of those 4 teams, UC Davis was the only one to make it past the second round of the playoffs. I still believe there needs to be 3 levels in Division 1. Until that happens those in the lower levels will be playing in the Tidily Wink bowl for 7 bucks and a warm doctor pepper.

[Montanabob]

Let me ask everyone this - how do we feel once NDSU, SDSU, Tartleton, UC Davis, are gone?

And of those 4 teams, UC Davis was the only one to make it past the second round of the playoffs. I still believe there needs to be 3 levels in Division 1. Until that happens those in the lower levels will be playing in the Tidily Wink bowl for 7 bucks and a warm doctor pepper.

HEY. No insults allowed here.
Warm Dr Pepper is good!

[Montanabob]

So someone on another thread posted the NMSUs recent upgrades as needed for MW quality (even though they were supposedly an FBS team already).

For those that want to go to MW, take note of the State funding that is going into UNM stadium this year. $58m upgrade for football with 372 added restroom stalls ...
https://golobos.com/news/2026/01/23/unm ... ement-plan

[wapiti]

For those wanting to move up this is a great discussion. When they do the realignment, consider what is going to happen. The g6 coaches get a lot more money than ours. To move up means those g6 guys are not going to get a pay cut. If we want to play with them all of our costs are going up, that ties in with ticket prices. It is going to cost a lot of money play that game and I don't think tv revenyis going to make up the difference.
Them there are the Portland, Eastern, Uncu, and maybe others in our conference that won't be able to pay the price.

TV revenue won’t pay for it and it’s not a steady and reliable source anyway. The Cats will need help from state government and an increase in student fees among other revenue increases, like ticket prices.

I think MSU need to focus on improving the food in the concessions. $17 for a crappy burger and ok fries is highway robbery.

The food is a part of the game day experience and the food is awful and way over priced for what is served.

Concession stand quality and price are always a hot topic. I'm curious, if you were the concession manager, what changes would you make to for a better game day experience? Also, should the goal of the concession stand to be to maximize profits or should the goal be to provide a non-profit service?

2 different size burgers. Small one and fries for $10 to $12 and large one and fries for $17.
Burger would be 100% beef and come with onion, tomato, lettuce and cheese, and have a quality bun.
The cooking apparatus would be set so the burgers are cooked but not over cooked. Too many times I had a dry, nearly burnt burger.

The chicken finger/nuggets would actually have some chicken in them and not mostly breading and the chicken would be moist.

The hot dog is ok. It could too use some toppings such as onion, tomato, lettuce and cheese.

You should be able to substitute a hot drink for the soda on the combo meals.

Providing non-profits a share of the proceeds is fine with me. Which means the labor costs for MSU to cook and serve the food is very minimal.

Get rid of the awful huckleberry lemonade and have a better selection of sodas. Have oj as an option for a drink.

[MSU01]

For those wanting to move up this is a great discussion. When they do the realignment, consider what is going to happen. The g6 coaches get a lot more money than ours. To move up means those g6 guys are not going to get a pay cut. If we want to play with them all of our costs are going up, that ties in with ticket prices. It is going to cost a lot of money play that game and I don't think tv revenyis going to make up the difference.
Them there are the Portland, Eastern, Uncu, and maybe others in our conference that won't be able to pay the price.

TV revenue won’t pay for it and it’s not a steady and reliable source anyway. The Cats will need help from state government and an increase in student fees among other revenue increases, like ticket prices.

I think MSU need to focus on improving the food in the concessions. $17 for a crappy burger and ok fries is highway robbery.

The food is a part of the game day experience and the food is awful and way over priced for what is served.

Concession stand quality and price are always a hot topic. I'm curious, if you were the concession manager, what changes would you make to for a better game day experience? Also, should the goal of the concession stand to be to maximize profits or should the goal be to provide a non-profit service?

2 different size burgers. Small one and fries for $10 to $12 and large one and fries for $17.
Burger would be 100% beef and come with onion, tomato, lettuce and cheese, and have a quality bun.
The cooking apparatus would be set so the burgers are cooked but not over cooked. Too many times I had a dry, nearly burnt burger.

The chicken finger/nuggets would actually have some chicken in them and not mostly breading and the chicken would be moist.

The hot dog is ok. It could too use some toppings such as onion, tomato, lettuce and cheese.

You should be able to substitute a hot drink for the soda on the combo meals.

Providing non-profits a share of the proceeds is fine with me. Which means the labor costs for MSU to cook and serve the food is very minimal.

Get rid of the awful huckleberry lemonade and have a better selection of sodas. Have oj as an option for a drink.

Standard stadium concessions always suck no matter where you go. It's all just frozen stuff straight off the Sysco truck and no method of preparation is going to make it any better as they need to focus on speed of service over anything else to get hundreds of people through the lines in a short amount of time. If you want actual good food there needs to be third-party vendors allowed to come in and set up shop. I believe there are a few of these already at Bobcat Stadium such as the stand that sells BBQ sandwiches and turkey legs under the end zone. I was at a Royals game this past summer and one of the local BBQ restaurants had a stand out in the outfield selling their famous brisket sandwiches...now that was good and worth the money!

[coachouert]

Do people really put lettuce on a hot dog? Do people really drink orange juice during a football game? Are you adding vodka to that OJ?

[grizzh8r]

For those wanting to move up this is a great discussion. When they do the realignment, consider what is going to happen. The g6 coaches get a lot more money than ours. To move up means those g6 guys are not going to get a pay cut. If we want to play with them all of our costs are going up, that ties in with ticket prices. It is going to cost a lot of money play that game and I don't think tv revenyis going to make up the difference.
Them there are the Portland, Eastern, Uncu, and maybe others in our conference that won't be able to pay the price.

TV revenue won’t pay for it and it’s not a steady and reliable source anyway. The Cats will need help from state government and an increase in student fees among other revenue increases, like ticket prices.

I think MSU need to focus on improving the food in the concessions. $17 for a crappy burger and ok fries is highway robbery.

The food is a part of the game day experience and the food is awful and way over priced for what is served.

Concession stand quality and price are always a hot topic. I'm curious, if you were the concession manager, what changes would you make to for a better game day experience? Also, should the goal of the concession stand to be to maximize profits or should the goal be to provide a non-profit service?

2 different size burgers. Small one and fries for $10 to $12 and large one and fries for $17.
Burger would be 100% beef and come with onion, tomato, lettuce and cheese, and have a quality bun.
The cooking apparatus would be set so the burgers are cooked but not over cooked. Too many times I had a dry, nearly burnt burger.

The chicken finger/nuggets would actually have some chicken in them and not mostly breading and the chicken would be moist.

The hot dog is ok. It could too use some toppings such as onion, tomato, lettuce and cheese.

You should be able to substitute a hot drink for the soda on the combo meals.

Providing non-profits a share of the proceeds is fine with me. Which means the labor costs for MSU to cook and serve the food is very minimal.

Get rid of the awful huckleberry lemonade and have a better selection of sodas. Have oj as an option for a drink.

Some of the above is a bit is over the top, but a bit better quality isn't hard to do.

Condiments - in addition to mayo, mustard, relish and ketchup - could be provided in a self service "bar" for all menu items:

diced onions
iceberg lettuce
sliced tomatoes
pickle chips
kraut
sliced jalapenos

These could be used for burgers, dogs, brats, and nachos. For those of you that have ever been to a Mustangs game at Dehler Park, i believe all of the above is available, in addition to the standard ketchup/mayo/mustard. The most expensive of these would be the tomatoes. Everything else is inexpensive and 3 of 6 require ZERO prep aside from opening a container.

Completely agree that the huckleberry lemonade is truly vile stuff. Tastes like cough medicine. Replace with root beer or Dr Pepper!

[catsrback76]

For those wanting to move up this is a great discussion. When they do the realignment, consider what is going to happen. The g6 coaches get a lot more money than ours. To move up means those g6 guys are not going to get a pay cut. If we want to play with them all of our costs are going up, that ties in with ticket prices. It is going to cost a lot of money play that game and I don't think tv revenyis going to make up the difference.
Them there are the Portland, Eastern, Uncu, and maybe others in our conference that won't be able to pay the price.

TV revenue won’t pay for it and it’s not a steady and reliable source anyway. The Cats will need help from state government and an increase in student fees among other revenue increases, like ticket prices.

I think MSU need to focus on improving the food in the concessions. $17 for a crappy burger and ok fries is highway robbery.

The food is a part of the game day experience and the food is awful and way over priced for what is served.

Okay, so wow…moving up and we get a burger post…