It felt more like he's not going to leave this season and especially not to OSU. If there is somehow still a good job available in the middle of January I wouldn't be surprised if he went after it. There would still be a high bar to leave but I think the biggest thing keeping him here today is that the season isn't over and he doesn't plan on it being over until January. If we didn't have a legit shot at the title things may have gone differently last week.MSU01 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:27 pmTo me, it's pretty clear reading that statement that he's not going to leave this off-season. I suppose we'll see whether that is proven right or if I'm dead wrong.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:03 pmThat statement was as unspecific as they could make it for a reason. Nothing about it was unequivocal.
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Not to mention New Orleans to Gainesville is a shorter distance than Bozeman to any G5 school. That's still regional.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:30 pmRegionality is applicable below the P4 level but if you're at a big school you should have the resources to recruit nationally without a problem.catzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
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That is not true Zebragriz. New Orleans to Gainesville is 532 miles apart where Bozeman to Salt Lake City (University of Utah - G5 school) is 411 miles.ZebraCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 1:14 pmNot to mention New Orleans to Gainesville is a shorter distance than Bozeman to any G5 school. That's still regional.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:30 pmRegionality is applicable below the P4 level but if you're at a big school you should have the resources to recruit nationally without a problem.catzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
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Wellllll, you got me on the distance (although 532 miles is still very regional). However, Utah isn't a G5 school. Utah State in Logan would be. The point being, Tulane is regional to the SEC schools in the deep south and Florida, + Central and East Texas. The argument was about regionality not playing a factor, when in fact it was definitely in the same region.NVCat1993 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:07 pmThat is not true Zebragriz. New Orleans to Gainesville is 532 miles apart where Bozeman to Salt Lake City (University of Utah - G5 school) is 411 miles.ZebraCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 1:14 pmNot to mention New Orleans to Gainesville is a shorter distance than Bozeman to any G5 school. That's still regional.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:30 pmRegionality is applicable below the P4 level but if you're at a big school you should have the resources to recruit nationally without a problem.catzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
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The U Washington coach (DeBoer?) went to U Alabama. I don't know if he has any ties to the SE, but that's about a big a jump distance wise as you can make. So I think it proves your point.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:30 pmRegionality is applicable below the P4 level but if you're at a big school you should have the resources to recruit nationally without a problem.catzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
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He coached under SabanLong Time Cat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:17 pmThe U Washington coach (DeBoer?) went to U Alabama. I don't know if he has any ties to the SE, but that's about a big a jump distance wise as you can make. So I think it proves your point.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:30 pmRegionality is applicable below the P4 level but if you're at a big school you should have the resources to recruit nationally without a problem.catzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
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Good to know. Did he have any ties to the NW before UW?WalkOn79 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:22 pmHe coached under SabanLong Time Cat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:17 pmThe U Washington coach (DeBoer?) went to U Alabama. I don't know if he has any ties to the SE, but that's about a big a jump distance wise as you can make. So I think it proves your point.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:30 pmRegionality is applicable below the P4 level but if you're at a big school you should have the resources to recruit nationally without a problem.catzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
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DeBoer got the Washington job from being successful at Fresno St. He left Sioux Falls to go to SIU as a OC and bounced around Eastern Michigan, Fresno than Indiana. Fresno hired him as a head coach and he excelled.Long Time Cat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:57 pmGood to know. Did he have any ties to the NW before UW?WalkOn79 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:22 pmHe coached under SabanLong Time Cat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:17 pmThe U Washington coach (DeBoer?) went to U Alabama. I don't know if he has any ties to the SE, but that's about a big a jump distance wise as you can make. So I think it proves your point.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:30 pmRegionality is applicable below the P4 level but if you're at a big school you should have the resources to recruit nationally without a problem.catzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
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With all due respect it seems a little early in the playoff run to think about winning it all when NDSU is still involved. I want it as much as you do but seems early.
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New Orleans to Gainesville is the same distance as Missoula to Plentywoodcatzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
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Think they will fire him?ghobs95 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 5:47 pmNew Orleans to Gainesville is the same distance as Missoula to Plentywoodcatzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.Maybe that's where Bobby will be looking for his next job
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That's fair, it could definitely be a different situation if there are still jobs open in mid-January or if MSU is upset in the playoffs earlier on than we expect. I still tend to think that Vigen is telling us he will be coaching MSU in 2026 no matter what other schools might come calling with offers, but we will see.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:33 pmIt felt more like he's not going to leave this season and especially not to OSU. If there is somehow still a good job available in the middle of January I wouldn't be surprised if he went after it. There would still be a high bar to leave but I think the biggest thing keeping him here today is that the season isn't over and he doesn't plan on it being over until January. If we didn't have a legit shot at the title things may have gone differently last week.MSU01 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:27 pmTo me, it's pretty clear reading that statement that he's not going to leave this off-season. I suppose we'll see whether that is proven right or if I'm dead wrong.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:03 pmThat statement was as unspecific as they could make it for a reason. Nothing about it was unequivocal.
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I don’t think he ever did.WalkOn79 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:22 pmHe coached under SabanLong Time Cat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:17 pmThe U Washington coach (DeBoer?) went to U Alabama. I don't know if he has any ties to the SE, but that's about a big a jump distance wise as you can make. So I think it proves your point.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:30 pmRegionality is applicable below the P4 level but if you're at a big school you should have the resources to recruit nationally without a problem.catzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
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Dude, Utah is not only P4, but it’s top tier P4. Utah & Oregon have been the top 2 PAC 12 teams for most of the last decade.NVCat1993 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:07 pmThat is not true Zebragriz. New Orleans to Gainesville is 532 miles apart where Bozeman to Salt Lake City (University of Utah - G5 school) is 411 miles.ZebraCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 1:14 pmNot to mention New Orleans to Gainesville is a shorter distance than Bozeman to any G5 school. That's still regional.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:30 pmRegionality is applicable below the P4 level but if you're at a big school you should have the resources to recruit nationally without a problem.catzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
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Regionalization is trumped when a coach has made the national championship game or you’ve hit some other top tier. (Like how Lane Kiffen bounced from California to the SEC and back and back again.)BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 8:27 pmI don’t think he ever did.WalkOn79 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:22 pmHe coached under SabanLong Time Cat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:17 pmThe U Washington coach (DeBoer?) went to U Alabama. I don't know if he has any ties to the SE, but that's about a big a jump distance wise as you can make. So I think it proves your point.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:30 pmRegionality is applicable below the P4 level but if you're at a big school you should have the resources to recruit nationally without a problem.catzrule1991 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:19 pmTrue, But we just saw Sumrall go from Tulane to Florida. That’s a big jump and New Orleans to Gainesville isn’t one state away. I’ve seen less crazy things happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start hearing rumors about Vigen and Penn State.SonomaCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:09 pmI think college coaches are still somewhat regional, so it would be odd for a NE team to go after a small school western coach. They simply don't have the recruiting or coaching relationships in that part of the country.
If they were a nationally known "celebrity" type coach, then I could see it. But not a rising coach.
The regional al nature of coaching is more consistent for coaches who don’t spend a lot of time in the Top 10.
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They should take North Dakota State's Head coach, I hear he's really good.
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Strange.
At least I don't expect WSU to be any more patient this December than they were last December. Especially with next year's fight for a conference title a little more competitive than it was this year.
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Will they take an fcs chance again? Magic 8 ball says "all signs point to no."coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:51 pmStrange.
At least I don't expect WSU to be any more patient this December than they were last December. Especially with next year's fight for a conference title a little more competitive than it was this year.
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Saw this article just now. Some quotes from Leon. Feeling from this article that we might be okay.
https://www.montanasports.com/college/m ... eathe-easy
https://www.montanasports.com/college/m ... eathe-easy