How do Cats stack up against Griz

[MSUBRONCO]

I think we're the better team BUT this game is always 50/50 throw records out

[TomCat88]

UM is good at winning this year. They've pulled out some tough games and are feeling destined. When you're undefeated, you don't know how to lose and winning is contagious. They find ways to win and that makes them dangerous. I've seen lots of teams like this where everyone is thinking they played an easy schedule and won't get past the first round at State or whatever, yet there they are in the championship game. They probably have a big chip on their shoulders seeing MSU ahead of them in Selection Committee prepostseason (been dying to use that word) rankings.

[tetoncat]

I’ll say what I said a couple weeks ago. The griz offense is good. I’m just not see what oldgriz is seeing that they are the obvious number one offense in the league.

Seems like our O has put up more points than theirs in league play. The common opponents we’ve played we’ve killed and they’ve let hang around.

Ah yat and other starters are good no doubt. I won’t bash on players. They look good. But numbers wise their starters get to play all game cause they can’t put anyone away.

I ask again, mainly to griz fans and especially to oldgriz claiming the griz are easily the better offense; what do they do that makes them better? Numbers don’t support it really and either do results of games.

I won’t even touch on the defense cause that isn’t close. I didn’t see final numbers but looks like that D gave up another 400 yards or so today. To a young kid. In their defense they stepped up when needed or a very bad eastern team had a chance to beat them!

In two weeks the 2 things I literally fear most is Washington Grizzly; and rowdy fans.

The Gris D did not step up in the end. The EWU QB fumbled the spike and ended up running out the clock accidentally. They Gris are nowhere near as good as the Cats.

MSU 66 - Weber 14. UM 38 - Weber 17.
MSU 57 - EWU 3. UM 29 - EWU 24.

In what world are the Gris even with us?

In a world where Cat/gris is in missoula.

That's the answer. if this was a neutral field game, I'd be pretty confident in a two or more score win. However, the game being down in the Snake Pit adds an element of chaos and unpredictability in the favor of the home team, as it has for 4 of the last 5 Cat-Griz games (not necessarily including last year, cuz the score was an accurate representation of the two teams). That's the wildcard that can change this game, and they have enough talent to strike early and get the wave of momentum on their side. I'm becoming more and more confident about this game, but there's still a chance the tsunami of momentum gets on their side and wins them the game. But I still think we can leave no doubt in Missoula and win by 2+ scores. We shall see.

Cal Poly showed this as well Cats had chance to put it away, give up TD, fumble, another TD and it's close. But, Cats responded. That is harder to do at WA Griz. Even at ho.e yesterday Cats had 2 or 3 procedure penalties.The one thong I have seen from this team though is they have responded to I think every early TD. I don't count 4th quarter as most are vs 2 and 3 units.

[onceacat]

UM is good at winning this year. They've pulled out some tough games and are feeling destined. When you're undefeated, you don't know how to lose and winning is contagious. They find ways to win and that makes them dangerous. I've seen lots of teams like this where everyone is thinking they played an easy schedule and won't get past the first round at State or whatever, yet there they are in the championship game. They probably have a big chip on their shoulders seeing MSU ahead of them in Selection Committee prepostseason (been dying to use that word) rankings.

This reminds me a lot of 2021. MSU is pretty clearly the better team. But the pandas do have a way of pulling out shocking results. Its all part of Boobys charm.

[grizzh8r]

UM is good at winning this year. They've pulled out some tough games and are feeling destined. When you're undefeated, you don't know how to lose and winning is contagious. They find ways to win and that makes them dangerous. I've seen lots of teams like this where everyone is thinking they played an easy schedule and won't get past the first round at State or whatever, yet there they are in the championship game. They probably have a big chip on their shoulders seeing MSU ahead of them in Selection Committee prepostseason (been dying to use that word) rankings.

This reminds me a lot of 2021. MSU is pretty clearly the better team. But the pandas do have a way of pulling out shocking results. Its all part of Boobys charm.

Charm? There is literally nothing charming about that jackwagon.

[CodyCat]

Ahyat, Gilman and wortham are studs, no question….. but that is seriously it.

Their OL is average at best, DL is not good, defense in general is not good.

I’m trying to look at this objectively (and take off the bobcat glasses)…. But it seems like the Cats are significantly better across the board, much more complete team, better depth, better coaching, better OL and DL…. I just don’t see us losing this game.

It’s always so tough in this matchup but I feel the same. If all the stats were identical and records as well, but instead it being the griz we’re on the road against say Idaho state, we’d all be picking the cats by 20 plus. Easily. But it’s a game in Missoula. That’s it. If Vigen can get the guys to overcome the first couple possessions and a crazy environment; I really am just not seeing where their team is better than the Cats. Vigen just needs to show he can win there. We control our own destiny!

Montana isn’t Idaho State. They are better. And the environment is the deal.

I had these same thoughts in 23 though. I figured at best the gris would lose close and it was more likely to be a blowout. The opposite happened. So, I don’t know if it matters that the Cats are the better team on paper.

[BobcatOninetails]

Ahyat, Gilman and wortham are studs, no question….. but that is seriously it.

Their OL is average at best, DL is not good, defense in general is not good.

I’m trying to look at this objectively (and take off the bobcat glasses)…. But it seems like the Cats are significantly better across the board, much more complete team, better depth, better coaching, better OL and DL…. I just don’t see us losing this game.

It’s always so tough in this matchup but I feel the same. If all the stats were identical and records as well, but instead it being the griz we’re on the road against say Idaho state, we’d all be picking the cats by 20 plus. Easily. But it’s a game in Missoula. That’s it. If Vigen can get the guys to overcome the first couple possessions and a crazy environment; I really am just not seeing where their team is better than the Cats. Vigen just needs to show he can win there. We control our own destiny!

I think we had the better team the last two times we played in Missoula to be honest. Not a lot better but better. I also think that Vigen is on more of a mission this year than even last year. He is pummeling teams and I think he is doing it to make a statement. I also had a theory offered yesterday that there are some Missoula kids on this Cat team that will be seeing the field in Missoula for the first time in a Cat/gris game and will want to make a statement to the Orc that is their head coach. But…………………….lets beat Davis next week first!

[TomCat88]

Ahyat, Gilman and wortham are studs, no question….. but that is seriously it.

Their OL is average at best, DL is not good, defense in general is not good.

I’m trying to look at this objectively (and take off the bobcat glasses)…. But it seems like the Cats are significantly better across the board, much more complete team, better depth, better coaching, better OL and DL…. I just don’t see us losing this game.

It’s always so tough in this matchup but I feel the same. If all the stats were identical and records as well, but instead it being the griz we’re on the road against say Idaho state, we’d all be picking the cats by 20 plus. Easily. But it’s a game in Missoula. That’s it. If Vigen can get the guys to overcome the first couple possessions and a crazy environment; I really am just not seeing where their team is better than the Cats. Vigen just needs to show he can win there. We control our own destiny!

Montana isn’t Idaho State. They are better. And the environment is the deal.

I had these same thoughts in 23 though. I figured at best the gris would lose close and it was more likely to be a blowout. The opposite happened. So, I don’t know if it matters that the Cats are the better team on paper.

A really good defense, which UM had in 2023, and a loud environment is a lethal combo. MSU made some plays but left points on the field as it was weathering UM's start. The Cats made a 17-6 game into a 20-0 game with its own failings, then after scoring to open the second half, gave up a 50-yard KO return and a TD.

These games, aside from last year, all could've been a lot closer had it not been for some self-inflicted wounds by both teams on the road. UM snapping ball over punter for a MSU TD and later fumbling on the goal line were killers in 2022. They fumbled the opening kickoff in 2019. MSU gave up a TD on its own FG attempt and another on a busted coverage in 2021, not to mention about four punt returns that setup FGs. I thought last year's game followed the script for the most part.

[91catAlum]

Everybody always says "throw the records out the window" but honestly, looking back over the last 20 years, there's only been maybe 2 or 3 times where the clear underdog won the game: 2016 for sure, and maybe 2011, 2021.

The point spreads have often been surprising especially with all the blowouts recently, but the winner is rarely a huge surprise.

[TomCat88]

Everybody always says "throw the records out the window" but honestly, looking back over the last 20 years, there's only been maybe 2 or 3 times where the clear underdog won the game: 2016 for sure, and maybe 2011, 2021.

The point spreads have often been surprising especially with all the blowouts recently, but the winner is rarely a huge surprise.

True story. There have been some upset bids. But few true upsets. MSU's lone win in 1983 was 28-8 over UM. And 1 of 2 wins in 1985 was over UM. Some of MSU's most noteworthy wins have been at UM. 1968, 1976, 1984, 2002, 2016 and 2018 come to mind.

[KIX]

Anyone think the fact that dUMb had a week 0 bye and have been playing every week since will be a factor? Just mentally a toll? I know that Cat/gris is different but the second half could be a flop for the gris if Cats have any sort of momentum.

[Cataholic]

The Oregon game isn’t “irrelevant” when Gris fans are using W/L record as a point of comparison.

UM hasn’t played anyone like Oregon, or even SDSU when they were healthy, and that’s really what matters in the SOS argument if W/L record matters.

The “best” team UM played is probably UND, and they just got beaten by a 4-loss team.

Sure, it's relevant in the sense that it accounts for one of the losses and therefore the Cats only have one loss that really deserves to be considered.

However, it's irrelevant in the sense that it won't be counted against MSU in ranking or seeding and therefore it doesn't make sense to cite it for the sake of SOS resume building.

I'll put it this way:

MSU's resume is not and should not be harmed by the fact that they have a road loss to a highly ranked FBS team.

Also, MSU's resume is not and should not be enhanced by the fact that they went to Eugene and got their doors blown off.

So throw out that loss for the Cats and throw out the Central Washington game for the Griz. Where does that leave them? With essentially comparable schedules:

-Both teams have played 5 conference games, 2 at home and 3 on the road; the collective records of the two opponent sets are identical at 18-27.

-Both teams have played good MVFC team at home that has recently fallen on hard times.

-Both teams have played two weak FCS teams OOC-- Mercyhurst and USD for the Cats; ISU and SH for the Griz.

So the SOS in my mind is basically identical. The difference is that the Griz won their game against UND narrowly and the Cats lost their game against SDSU narrowly. So I have no problem with the Griz being ranked ahead of MSU.

However, I also have no doubt that the Cats are the better team given how much better they've performed in conference play.

It’s going to be a fun rivalry game. It’s interesting that you have no doubt, yet the FCS coaches and the FCS writers who cover the game professionally see the Griz as the better team.

Any doubts today? If not you’re delusional

No doubts today. The Cats lost at home to a team (SDSU) that might not even make the playoffs.

It’s official. You are nothing more than a troll. Cats beat EWU 57-3. You guys EWU by 5 at home on a fumbled spike by their third string QB. What a joke. You have lots to celebrate but you would rather troll on the Cats board. Textbook definition of loser.

I answered the question that was asked of me. The Cats lost at home to a team (SDSU) that has lost to Indiana State, South Dakota and (SDSU) might not even make the playoffs. Cat fans seem to think the SDSU loss, plus the near-60-point loss to Oregon, are bragging points for SOS. LOL. Whatevs. The Griz haven’t lost to anyone. The Brawl will be fun.

Is that what you took from today’s events? You apparently have never played the game.

[onceacat]

Anyone think the fact that dUMb had a week 0 bye and have been playing every week since will be a factor? Just mentally a toll? I know that Cat/gris is different but the second half could be a flop for the gris if Cats have any sort of momentum.

This is a huge advantage for the Cats IMO. Not only the lack of a bye during the season, but combined with the fact that MSU is (for the most part) putting teams away & resting starters for large portions of the 4th quarter is pretty significant.

One of the most impressive things that Vigen has done as coach is to build real, meaningful depth.

Of course, a surprising number of these games have been blowouts from the opening kick, or at least the first quarter...but in a close game, thats going to make a difference.

[Prodigal Cat]

Ahyat, Gilman and wortham are studs, no question….. but that is seriously it.

Their OL is average at best, DL is not good, defense in general is not good.

I’m trying to look at this objectively (and take off the bobcat glasses)…. But it seems like the Cats are significantly better across the board, much more complete team, better depth, better coaching, better OL and DL…. I just don’t see us losing this game.

It’s always so tough in this matchup but I feel the same. If all the stats were identical and records as well, but instead it being the griz we’re on the road against say Idaho state, we’d all be picking the cats by 20 plus. Easily. But it’s a game in Missoula. That’s it. If Vigen can get the guys to overcome the first couple possessions and a crazy environment; I really am just not seeing where their team is better than the Cats. Vigen just needs to show he can win there. We control our own destiny!

I think we had the better team the last two times we played in Missoula to be honest. Not a lot better but better. I also think that Vigen is on more of a mission this year than even last year. He is pummeling teams and I think he is doing it to make a statement. I also had a theory offered yesterday that there are some Missoula kids on this Cat team that will be seeing the field in Missoula for the first time in a Cat/gris game and will want to make a statement to the Orc that is their head coach. But…………………….lets beat Davis next week first!

Ehh. Disagree. In ‘21 yes the Cats were the better team and the results during the season and the subsequent playoffs beared that out. They were undone by a big rift between the QB and the OC along with our all American RB being basically on 2 bum knees. The Gris didn’t win that game, the Cats lost it.

The ‘23 gris team had 4 and 5th year guys all over the place on defense and the conference MVP at nose tackle. If we say this years Cats team is national championship caliber because its defense you have to acknowledge that’s why the griz got to Frisco that year. Their early struggles were due to inept offense but once they settled on Cliff they played complimentary football. That’s the one game since ‘16 when Choate took over that the Cats were beat in my opinion.

[ilovethecats]

Ahyat, Gilman and wortham are studs, no question….. but that is seriously it.

Their OL is average at best, DL is not good, defense in general is not good.

I’m trying to look at this objectively (and take off the bobcat glasses)…. But it seems like the Cats are significantly better across the board, much more complete team, better depth, better coaching, better OL and DL…. I just don’t see us losing this game.

It’s always so tough in this matchup but I feel the same. If all the stats were identical and records as well, but instead it being the griz we’re on the road against say Idaho state, we’d all be picking the cats by 20 plus. Easily. But it’s a game in Missoula. That’s it. If Vigen can get the guys to overcome the first couple possessions and a crazy environment; I really am just not seeing where their team is better than the Cats. Vigen just needs to show he can win there. We control our own destiny!

Montana isn’t Idaho State. They are better. And the environment is the deal.

I had these same thoughts in 23 though. I figured at best the gris would lose close and it was more likely to be a blowout. The opposite happened. So, I don’t know if it matters that the Cats are the better team on paper.

That was my point. Because it’s THEE game and IN Missoula it changes the game. If it was any other team in the league, in any other stadium, and that team had the griz teams identical stats; I’d expect us to win by 3+ TD’s.

[ilovethecats]

MSU is (for the most part) putting teams away & resting starters for large portions of the 4th quarter is pretty significant.

Are we sure this is correct? Cause I’ve read many times on egriz that we keep our starters in the game late in blowouts to pad our stats……..

[91catAlum]

The Oregon game isn’t “irrelevant” when Gris fans are using W/L record as a point of comparison.

UM hasn’t played anyone like Oregon, or even SDSU when they were healthy, and that’s really what matters in the SOS argument if W/L record matters.

The “best” team UM played is probably UND, and they just got beaten by a 4-loss team.

Sure, it's relevant in the sense that it accounts for one of the losses and therefore the Cats only have one loss that really deserves to be considered.

However, it's irrelevant in the sense that it won't be counted against MSU in ranking or seeding and therefore it doesn't make sense to cite it for the sake of SOS resume building.

I'll put it this way:

MSU's resume is not and should not be harmed by the fact that they have a road loss to a highly ranked FBS team.

Also, MSU's resume is not and should not be enhanced by the fact that they went to Eugene and got their doors blown off.

So throw out that loss for the Cats and throw out the Central Washington game for the Griz. Where does that leave them? With essentially comparable schedules:

-Both teams have played 5 conference games, 2 at home and 3 on the road; the collective records of the two opponent sets are identical at 18-27.

-Both teams have played good MVFC team at home that has recently fallen on hard times.

-Both teams have played two weak FCS teams OOC-- Mercyhurst and USD for the Cats; ISU and SH for the Griz.

So the SOS in my mind is basically identical. The difference is that the Griz won their game against UND narrowly and the Cats lost their game against SDSU narrowly. So I have no problem with the Griz being ranked ahead of MSU.

However, I also have no doubt that the Cats are the better team given how much better they've performed in conference play.

It’s going to be a fun rivalry game. It’s interesting that you have no doubt, yet the FCS coaches and the FCS writers who cover the game professionally see the Griz as the better team.

Any doubts today? If not you’re delusional

No doubts today. The Cats lost at home to a team (SDSU) that might not even make the playoffs.

It’s official. You are nothing more than a troll. Cats beat EWU 57-3. You guys EWU by 5 at home on a fumbled spike by their third string QB. What a joke. You have lots to celebrate but you would rather troll on the Cats board. Textbook definition of loser.

I answered the question that was asked of me. The Cats lost at home to a team (SDSU) that has lost to Indiana State, South Dakota and (SDSU) might not even make the playoffs. Cat fans seem to think the SDSU loss, plus the near-60-point loss to Oregon, are bragging points for SOS. LOL. Whatevs. The Griz haven’t lost to anyone. The Brawl will be fun.

Yes the Brawl will be a lot of fun, but not for the reasons you think...

[OldGriz]

The Oregon game isn’t “irrelevant” when Gris fans are using W/L record as a point of comparison.

UM hasn’t played anyone like Oregon, or even SDSU when they were healthy, and that’s really what matters in the SOS argument if W/L record matters.

The “best” team UM played is probably UND, and they just got beaten by a 4-loss team.

Sure, it's relevant in the sense that it accounts for one of the losses and therefore the Cats only have one loss that really deserves to be considered.

However, it's irrelevant in the sense that it won't be counted against MSU in ranking or seeding and therefore it doesn't make sense to cite it for the sake of SOS resume building.

I'll put it this way:

MSU's resume is not and should not be harmed by the fact that they have a road loss to a highly ranked FBS team.

Also, MSU's resume is not and should not be enhanced by the fact that they went to Eugene and got their doors blown off.

So throw out that loss for the Cats and throw out the Central Washington game for the Griz. Where does that leave them? With essentially comparable schedules:

-Both teams have played 5 conference games, 2 at home and 3 on the road; the collective records of the two opponent sets are identical at 18-27.

-Both teams have played good MVFC team at home that has recently fallen on hard times.

-Both teams have played two weak FCS teams OOC-- Mercyhurst and USD for the Cats; ISU and SH for the Griz.

So the SOS in my mind is basically identical. The difference is that the Griz won their game against UND narrowly and the Cats lost their game against SDSU narrowly. So I have no problem with the Griz being ranked ahead of MSU.

However, I also have no doubt that the Cats are the better team given how much better they've performed in conference play.

It’s going to be a fun rivalry game. It’s interesting that you have no doubt, yet the FCS coaches and the FCS writers who cover the game professionally see the Griz as the better team.

Any doubts today? If not you’re delusional

No doubts today. The Cats lost at home to a team (SDSU) that might not even make the playoffs.

It’s official. You are nothing more than a troll. Cats beat EWU 57-3. You guys EWU by 5 at home on a fumbled spike by their third string QB. What a joke. You have lots to celebrate but you would rather troll on the Cats board. Textbook definition of loser.

I answered the question that was asked of me. The Cats lost at home to a team (SDSU) that has lost to Indiana State, South Dakota and (SDSU) might not even make the playoffs. Cat fans seem to think the SDSU loss, plus the near-60-point loss to Oregon, are bragging points for SOS. LOL. Whatevs. The Griz haven’t lost to anyone. The Brawl will be fun.

Yes the Brawl will be a lot of fun, but not for the reasons you think...

The Cats have definitely dealt with adversity well. They’ve lost to a good team. They’ve lost to a mediocre team. They’ve beat bad teams, and they’ve beat good teams. It’s entirely possible the Cats could upset Montana in Missoula. I believe Montana will win, but it will be a fun contest under any circumstances.

[tdub]

The Oregon game isn’t “irrelevant” when Gris fans are using W/L record as a point of comparison.

UM hasn’t played anyone like Oregon, or even SDSU when they were healthy, and that’s really what matters in the SOS argument if W/L record matters.

The “best” team UM played is probably UND, and they just got beaten by a 4-loss team.

Sure, it's relevant in the sense that it accounts for one of the losses and therefore the Cats only have one loss that really deserves to be considered.

However, it's irrelevant in the sense that it won't be counted against MSU in ranking or seeding and therefore it doesn't make sense to cite it for the sake of SOS resume building.

I'll put it this way:

MSU's resume is not and should not be harmed by the fact that they have a road loss to a highly ranked FBS team.

Also, MSU's resume is not and should not be enhanced by the fact that they went to Eugene and got their doors blown off.

So throw out that loss for the Cats and throw out the Central Washington game for the Griz. Where does that leave them? With essentially comparable schedules:

-Both teams have played 5 conference games, 2 at home and 3 on the road; the collective records of the two opponent sets are identical at 18-27.

-Both teams have played good MVFC team at home that has recently fallen on hard times.

-Both teams have played two weak FCS teams OOC-- Mercyhurst and USD for the Cats; ISU and SH for the Griz.

So the SOS in my mind is basically identical. The difference is that the Griz won their game against UND narrowly and the Cats lost their game against SDSU narrowly. So I have no problem with the Griz being ranked ahead of MSU.

However, I also have no doubt that the Cats are the better team given how much better they've performed in conference play.

It’s going to be a fun rivalry game. It’s interesting that you have no doubt, yet the FCS coaches and the FCS writers who cover the game professionally see the Griz as the better team.

Any doubts today? If not you’re delusional

No doubts today. The Cats lost at home to a team (SDSU) that might not even make the playoffs.

It’s official. You are nothing more than a troll. Cats beat EWU 57-3. You guys EWU by 5 at home on a fumbled spike by their third string QB. What a joke. You have lots to celebrate but you would rather troll on the Cats board. Textbook definition of loser.

I answered the question that was asked of me. The Cats lost at home to a team (SDSU) that has lost to Indiana State, South Dakota and (SDSU) might not even make the playoffs. Cat fans seem to think the SDSU loss, plus the near-60-point loss to Oregon, are bragging points for SOS. LOL. Whatevs. The Griz haven’t lost to anyone. The Brawl will be fun.

Yes the Brawl will be a lot of fun, but not for the reasons you think...

The Cats have definitely dealt with adversity well. They’ve lost to a good team. They’ve lost to a mediocre team. They’ve beat bad teams, and they’ve beat good teams. It’s entirely possible the Cats could upset Montana in Missoula. I believe Montana will win, but it will be a fun contest under any circumstances.

“Upset”. Nice troll word again.

[onceacat]

The Oregon game isn’t “irrelevant” when Gris fans are using W/L record as a point of comparison.

UM hasn’t played anyone like Oregon, or even SDSU when they were healthy, and that’s really what matters in the SOS argument if W/L record matters.

The “best” team UM played is probably UND, and they just got beaten by a 4-loss team.

Sure, it's relevant in the sense that it accounts for one of the losses and therefore the Cats only have one loss that really deserves to be considered.

However, it's irrelevant in the sense that it won't be counted against MSU in ranking or seeding and therefore it doesn't make sense to cite it for the sake of SOS resume building.

I'll put it this way:

MSU's resume is not and should not be harmed by the fact that they have a road loss to a highly ranked FBS team.

Also, MSU's resume is not and should not be enhanced by the fact that they went to Eugene and got their doors blown off.

So throw out that loss for the Cats and throw out the Central Washington game for the Griz. Where does that leave them? With essentially comparable schedules:

-Both teams have played 5 conference games, 2 at home and 3 on the road; the collective records of the two opponent sets are identical at 18-27.

-Both teams have played good MVFC team at home that has recently fallen on hard times.

-Both teams have played two weak FCS teams OOC-- Mercyhurst and USD for the Cats; ISU and SH for the Griz.

So the SOS in my mind is basically identical. The difference is that the Griz won their game against UND narrowly and the Cats lost their game against SDSU narrowly. So I have no problem with the Griz being ranked ahead of MSU.

However, I also have no doubt that the Cats are the better team given how much better they've performed in conference play.

It’s going to be a fun rivalry game. It’s interesting that you have no doubt, yet the FCS coaches and the FCS writers who cover the game professionally see the Griz as the better team.

Any doubts today? If not you’re delusional

No doubts today. The Cats lost at home to a team (SDSU) that might not even make the playoffs.

It’s official. You are nothing more than a troll. Cats beat EWU 57-3. You guys EWU by 5 at home on a fumbled spike by their third string QB. What a joke. You have lots to celebrate but you would rather troll on the Cats board. Textbook definition of loser.

I answered the question that was asked of me. The Cats lost at home to a team (SDSU) that has lost to Indiana State, South Dakota and (SDSU) might not even make the playoffs. Cat fans seem to think the SDSU loss, plus the near-60-point loss to Oregon, are bragging points for SOS. LOL. Whatevs. The Griz haven’t lost to anyone. The Brawl will be fun.

Yes the Brawl will be a lot of fun, but not for the reasons you think...

The Cats have definitely dealt with adversity well. They’ve lost to a good team. They’ve lost to a mediocre team. They’ve beat bad teams, and they’ve beat good teams. It’s entirely possible the Cats could upset Montana in Missoula. I believe Montana will win, but it will be a fun contest under any circumstances.

LOL, the Cats lost to a Top 10 FBS team and the #2 FCS team. Not sure which one is good & which one is mediocre?

And then we are back to: "If you throw out the Cats toughest game and the Panda's easiest game, the schedules are similar (still tougher for the Cats, but lets ignore that)". Yep. Thats how statistics work. If you cherry pick your sample you can get pretty much whatever result you want.

Here's an idea: Lets throw out MSUs 2nd toughest and UMs 2nd easiest games too! "If you throw out both Oregon and SDSU and also throw out Central Washington and Sacred Heart for the Pandas, the Pandas actually have the tougher schedule."

Heck, lets take this further: "If you throw out Ohio States toughest 7 games and throw out MSUs 7 easiest games, did you know that MSUs Strength of Schedule is a lot tougher than Ohio States?"