For what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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This has been discussed in past threads. It looks like the future end zone stands will be elevated, allowing for some sort of a party area area beneath them. Similar to the University of Washington.Cats15 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:07 amFor what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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That looks great.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:12 amThis has been discussed in past threads. It looks like the future end zone stands will be elevated, allowing for some sort of a party area area beneath them. Similar to the University of Washington.Cats15 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:07 amFor what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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Oh, well then, yeah that make sense. Also, looks awesome!RockyBearCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:21 amThat looks great.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:12 amThis has been discussed in past threads. It looks like the future end zone stands will be elevated, allowing for some sort of a party area area beneath them. Similar to the University of Washington.Cats15 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:07 amFor what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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I don’t MSU has ever said publicly about what the NEZ would look like. But Washington’s endzone has been talked about at length on BN.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:12 amThis has been discussed in past threads. It looks like the future end zone stands will be elevated, allowing for some sort of a party area area beneath them. Similar to the University of Washington.Cats15 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:07 amFor what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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I think it was KMAX that originally brought this up for what MSU was planning for the end zone. My apologies if it wasn't him.CodyCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:39 amI don’t MSU has ever said publicly about what the NEZ would look like. But Washington’s endzone has been talked about at length on BN.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:12 amThis has been discussed in past threads. It looks like the future end zone stands will be elevated, allowing for some sort of a party area area beneath them. Similar to the University of Washington.Cats15 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:07 amFor what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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The 20 year Master plan showed seating in the north end zone, but as with the Indoor Practice facility, plans do change.CodyCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:39 amI don’t MSU has ever said publicly about what the NEZ would look like. But Washington’s endzone has been talked about at length on BN.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:12 amThis has been discussed in past threads. It looks like the future end zone stands will be elevated, allowing for some sort of a party area area beneath them. Similar to the University of Washington.Cats15 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:07 amFor what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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That’d be very nice. Like the overhang.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:12 amThis has been discussed in past threads. It looks like the future end zone stands will be elevated, allowing for some sort of a party area area beneath them. Similar to the University of Washington.Cats15 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:07 amFor what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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Is that 1983 photo the Cat-gris game? I’d be surprised there would be that many people at a non Cat-gris game that season.
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Correct, I am the one that has said that and has come from several conversations I have had with folks at MSU. Obviously as mentioned the bottom would be similar to that but there would only be a handful of rows of seats (maybe 5-8ish?) above that to the level of the BAC second floor windows.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:02 pmI think it was KMAX that originally brought this up for what MSU was planning for the end zone. My apologies if it wasn't him.CodyCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:39 amI don’t MSU has ever said publicly about what the NEZ would look like. But Washington’s endzone has been talked about at length on BN.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:12 amThis has been discussed in past threads. It looks like the future end zone stands will be elevated, allowing for some sort of a party area area beneath them. Similar to the University of Washington.Cats15 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:07 amFor what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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Could go higher once it gets past the ends of the scoreboard but might be some obstructed view.kmax wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:28 pmCorrect, I am the one that has said that and has come from several conversations I have had with folks at MSU. Obviously as mentioned the bottom would be similar to that but there would only be a handful of rows of seats (maybe 5-8ish?) above that to the level of the BAC second floor windows.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:02 pmI think it was KMAX that originally brought this up for what MSU was planning for the end zone. My apologies if it wasn't him.CodyCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:39 amI don’t MSU has ever said publicly about what the NEZ would look like. But Washington’s endzone has been talked about at length on BN.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:12 amThis has been discussed in past threads. It looks like the future end zone stands will be elevated, allowing for some sort of a party area area beneath them. Similar to the University of Washington.Cats15 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:07 amFor what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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If they did the corners I could see going higher past the ends of the BAC building but in the endzone itself I think the limiting factor on height is the windows of the BAC not the scoreboard in any wayTomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:56 pmCould go higher once it gets past the ends of the scoreboard but might be some obstructed view.kmax wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:28 pmCorrect, I am the one that has said that and has come from several conversations I have had with folks at MSU. Obviously as mentioned the bottom would be similar to that but there would only be a handful of rows of seats (maybe 5-8ish?) above that to the level of the BAC second floor windows.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:02 pmI think it was KMAX that originally brought this up for what MSU was planning for the end zone. My apologies if it wasn't him.CodyCat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:39 amI don’t MSU has ever said publicly about what the NEZ would look like. But Washington’s endzone has been talked about at length on BN.AFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:12 amThis has been discussed in past threads. It looks like the future end zone stands will be elevated, allowing for some sort of a party area area beneath them. Similar to the University of Washington.Cats15 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:07 amFor what they make on the cabana's down in that location, I highly doubt there is much of an incentive for them to construct new seating there when the university will probably lose money.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:04 amWith base being 27’ up, there’s plenty of room for seating between the end zone and the scoreboard. If the seating is elevated to match the NEZ, I’m think you could get 6-8-10 rows to fit in there. Should have about 20 vertical feet to work with. I’m not sure how far back the scoreboard is from the end line but it seems sufficient based on my memory. You can also have the seating overhang the seating’s support base to allow for more room and get fans closer to the action. Would be a fun place to sit as you’d be just a few feet away from some huge plays on occasion.
Probably push the seating capacity over 20,000 (20,007).
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There is a rendering on the master plan showing the seating, but I am not good with posting photos.
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Yeah, that’s the 2017 master plan. I think the plan has changed quite a bit since then.
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I am assuming if we did like the Huskies, we would only build seating up to right below the windows of the BAC correct? I don’t see them covering those up. Seating on the sides would be cool to see, like where the grass hill is and where the parents gather after the game.
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No, if you look at an aerial view of the stadium, follow the walkway around the South end zone and the West grandstands and any future extension of the walkway would end up right under the BAC windows, so seats wouldn’t extend to the windows. I would think the corners of the stadium would be filled in with seating. The North end zone is more problematic with the scoreboard where it is. Some seating behind the board would have issues with field sight lines due to the scoreboard pilings. I’m betting on a plaza of some sort in that window area with minimal seating of a few rows up to the pilings or slightly behind them. It will be interesting to see what they come up with in the future.GoCats18 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:49 pmI am assuming if we did like the Huskies, we would only build seating up to right below the windows of the BAC correct? I don’t see them covering those up. Seating on the sides would be cool to see, like where the grass hill is and where the parents gather after the game.
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I feel like the most likely answer is a walkway/plaza at the level of the BAC second floor windows or at the same level as the walkway in the SEZ, with permanent field level suites beneath thatAFCAT wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:28 pmNo, if you look at an aerial view of the stadium, follow the walkway around the South end zone and the West grandstands and any future extension of the walkway would end up right under the BAC windows, so seats wouldn’t extend to the windows. I would think the corners of the stadium would be filled in with seating. The North end zone is more problematic with the scoreboard where it is. Some seating behind the board would have issues with field sight lines due to the scoreboard pilings. I’m betting on a plaza of some sort in that window area with minimal seating of a few rows up to the pilings or slightly behind them. It will be interesting to see what they come up with in the future.GoCats18 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:49 pmI am assuming if we did like the Huskies, we would only build seating up to right below the windows of the BAC correct? I don’t see them covering those up. Seating on the sides would be cool to see, like where the grass hill is and where the parents gather after the game.
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That guy wearing #47 would make the legendary play of all legendary plays the year after that photo was taken and right about where he is looking at in the photo.
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