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Post by coochorama42 » Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:45 pm

Right now TA is a Round 3/Round 4 pick. That can go up or down based upon his combine. There is almost no chance he ends up as a first round pick, but I can see him moving into the 2nd (like Kyle Duggar or Jeremy Chinn).

He has day one value as a special teams player no matter where he gets drafted, so I really believe he has a huge opportunity for success, even if teams feel he needs time to develop as a LB. His best case scenario is likely going to a franchise with a draft and develop model (Baltimore is great at this), where he can learn for a year or two then assume the starting role.



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Post by rivercat » Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:26 pm

coochorama42 wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:45 pm
Right now TA is a Round 3/Round 4 pick. That can go up or down based upon his combine. There is almost no chance he ends up as a first round pick, but I can see him moving into the 2nd (like Kyle Duggar or Jeremy Chinn).

He has day one value as a special teams player no matter where he gets drafted, so I really believe he has a huge opportunity for success, even if teams feel he needs time to develop as a LB. His best case scenario is likely going to a franchise with a draft and develop model (Baltimore is great at this), where he can learn for a year or two then assume the starting role.
I think you're spot on. Troy is very intelligent and of high character which add to his upside. He can and will continue to learn the LB position. And, as they say, you can't teach speed.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by thisnamesucks » Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:38 pm

What are the realistic ranges for his 40? I’m assuming in the 4.5 range but that’ll go a long ways towards determining his round



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Post by TomCat88 » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:03 pm

If he gets a clean bill of health he’s got a very good shot at Day Two.


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Post by coochorama42 » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:05 pm

thisnamesucks wrote:
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What are the realistic ranges for his 40? I’m assuming in the 4.5 range but that’ll go a long ways towards determining his round
4.55-4.65. An 11 second 100m dash time correlates to a 4.6 40 yard dash time. I think that TA lands about there - putting him in about the 75th percentile for all LB. The number to watch for is his shuttle run. If he can get above the 75th percentile there (and put in a 4.6 or so 40), he's a 3rd rounder at worst.



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Post by ND0479 » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:17 pm

coochorama42 wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:05 pm
thisnamesucks wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:38 pm
What are the realistic ranges for his 40? I’m assuming in the 4.5 range but that’ll go a long ways towards determining his round
4.55-4.65. An 11 second 100m dash time correlates to a 4.6 40 yard dash time. I think that TA lands about there - putting him in about the 75th percentile for all LB. The number to watch for is his shuttle run. If he can get above the 75th percentile there (and put in a 4.6 or so 40), he's a 3rd rounder at worst.
I see he’s working with a NFL/combine prep program, Rep1 Football, that focuses primarily on improving in the combine drills. Handful of other guys there - Chad Muma being one of them.



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Post by allcat » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:58 pm

Are there stats on how many players from this game get drafted and what rounds?


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Post by allcat » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:05 pm

Okay I asked the googlizer and the rosters have 58 each for 116 total. Of those 106 got drafted last year. Almost half get drafted in the first three rounds.


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Post by allcat » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:10 pm

I also found an article where they say the last three years 89 percent were on a roster as a rookie.


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Post by Montanabob » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:14 pm

And the closing team picture had troy front and center.


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Post by wbtfg » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:22 pm

Anyone know when MSU’s pro day is?


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Post by catpound » Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:47 am

coochorama42 wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:05 pm
thisnamesucks wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:38 pm
What are the realistic ranges for his 40? I’m assuming in the 4.5 range but that’ll go a long ways towards determining his round
4.55-4.65. An 11 second 100m dash time correlates to a 4.6 40 yard dash time. I think that TA lands about there - putting him in about the 75th percentile for all LB. The number to watch for is his shuttle run. If he can get above the 75th percentile there (and put in a 4.6 or so 40), he's a 3rd rounder at worst.
He ran 10.8 100 meters in HS and there is no doubt he is faster than that now. In January he was in CA at a training facility with 15-20 other senior LBs and DBs, mostly Senior Bowl invites, and was the fastest player there. I wouldn't be surprised if he is sub 4.55, maybe high 4.4s. He will run a good shuttle, have a good vertical jump and he is going to crush the interviews and intelligence parts of the combine. The teams are going to be blown away with him in the interview room and his football IQ. Agree with you, I think it will be shocking if he makes it past the 3rd round.



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Post by iaafan » Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:00 am

catpound wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:47 am
coochorama42 wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:05 pm
thisnamesucks wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:38 pm
What are the realistic ranges for his 40? I’m assuming in the 4.5 range but that’ll go a long ways towards determining his round
4.55-4.65. An 11 second 100m dash time correlates to a 4.6 40 yard dash time. I think that TA lands about there - putting him in about the 75th percentile for all LB. The number to watch for is his shuttle run. If he can get above the 75th percentile there (and put in a 4.6 or so 40), he's a 3rd rounder at worst.
He ran 10.8 100 meters in HS and there is no doubt he is faster than that now. In January he was in CA at a training facility with 15-20 other senior LBs and DBs, mostly Senior Bowl invites, and was the fastest player there. I wouldn't be surprised if he is sub 4.55, maybe high 4.4s. He will run a good shuttle, have a good vertical jump and he is going to crush the interviews and intelligence parts of the combine. The teams are going to be blown away with him in the interview room and his football IQ. Agree with you, I think it will be shocking if he makes it past the 3rd round.
The Combine is primarily for doctors to probe and poke the athletes. They do all that other BS for the hell of it, originally, and now they do it for entertainment and, you guessed it, to make even more money. The teams know how good these guys are. They just want to make sure they don’t have any flaws so they don’t waste their money on a pkayer that’s gonna breakdown the first year. If Troy has any past injuries that are deemed chronic he won’t get drafted in the first two days.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by snowxlt » Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 am

Biggest winners from 2022 Senior Bowl week
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/20 ... an-watson/

Troy Anderson
There were many eyes on the small-school standout who made the conversion from quarterback/running back/wide receiver to linebacker, and his play raised their eyebrows. With his impressive athleticism, Andersen looked comfortable dropping back and making plays in coverage. His speed and range enabled him to move freely from sideline to sideline and make stops on opposing ball carriers. Andersen also showed plenty of special teams upside, as he was consistently the first guy down the field on coverage units.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-qb-m ... 34016.html
Troy Anderson
There was some real fascination with how Andersen might perform at the event, and some evaluators came in thinking that the converted receiver might be a candidate to move back to offense in the NFL.

That still could happen, but the way Andersen performed on defense opened eyes. He showed a lot more comfort moving in reverse after mainly being used as a pass rusher in college. Andersen suddenly has a lot of evaluators going back to the tape to see how best to unlock his fascinating skill set.

https://www.bigblueview.com/2022/2/6/22 ... e-analysis
LB Troy Andersen, Montana State

Andersen was a big fish in a small pond at Montana State. He proved his status as a true NFL linebacker at the Senior Bowl. He’s a linebacker with good coverage skills, and made a great play on the football against Turner on this red zone fade:

One-on-one coverage drills are incredibly difficult on the defenders. There’s so much space and time to account for, and the offense is always at an advantage. Andersen recovers so well after a nice route from the tight end:

The plays in one-on-one are nice, but plays like this in team periods are very impressive. Andersen fights through two blocks, moves laterally while keeping his eyes on the running back’s path, and then puts himself in position to make a tackle if it were contact:


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by AFCAT » Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:35 am

snowxlt wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 am
Biggest winners from 2022 Senior Bowl week
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/20 ... an-watson/

Troy Anderson
There were many eyes on the small-school standout who made the conversion from quarterback/running back/wide receiver to linebacker, and his play raised their eyebrows. With his impressive athleticism, Andersen looked comfortable dropping back and making plays in coverage. His speed and range enabled him to move freely from sideline to sideline and make stops on opposing ball carriers. Andersen also showed plenty of special teams upside, as he was consistently the first guy down the field on coverage units.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-qb-m ... 34016.html
Troy Anderson
There was some real fascination with how Andersen might perform at the event, and some evaluators came in thinking that the converted receiver might be a candidate to move back to offense in the NFL.

That still could happen, but the way Andersen performed on defense opened eyes. He showed a lot more comfort moving in reverse after mainly being used as a pass rusher in college. Andersen suddenly has a lot of evaluators going back to the tape to see how best to unlock his fascinating skill set.

https://www.bigblueview.com/2022/2/6/22 ... e-analysis
LB Troy Andersen, Montana State

Andersen was a big fish in a small pond at Montana State. He proved his status as a true NFL linebacker at the Senior Bowl. He’s a linebacker with good coverage skills, and made a great play on the football against Turner on this red zone fade:

One-on-one coverage drills are incredibly difficult on the defenders. There’s so much space and time to account for, and the offense is always at an advantage. Andersen recovers so well after a nice route from the tight end:

The plays in one-on-one are nice, but plays like this in team periods are very impressive. Andersen fights through two blocks, moves laterally while keeping his eyes on the running back’s path, and then puts himself in position to make a tackle if it were contact:
Receiver? Every time I read some of these evaluations by so-called experts, I’m amazed how they get basic facts wrong.
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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by coloradocat » Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:39 am

snowxlt wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 am
Biggest winners from 2022 Senior Bowl week
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/20 ... an-watson/

Troy Anderson
There were many eyes on the small-school standout who made the conversion from quarterback/running back/wide receiver to linebacker, and his play raised their eyebrows. With his impressive athleticism, Andersen looked comfortable dropping back and making plays in coverage. His speed and range enabled him to move freely from sideline to sideline and make stops on opposing ball carriers. Andersen also showed plenty of special teams upside, as he was consistently the first guy down the field on coverage units.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-qb-m ... 34016.html
Troy Anderson
There was some real fascination with how Andersen might perform at the event, and some evaluators came in thinking that the converted receiver might be a candidate to move back to offense in the NFL.

That still could happen, but the way Andersen performed on defense opened eyes. He showed a lot more comfort moving in reverse after mainly being used as a pass rusher in college. Andersen suddenly has a lot of evaluators going back to the tape to see how best to unlock his fascinating skill set.

https://www.bigblueview.com/2022/2/6/22 ... e-analysis
LB Troy Andersen, Montana State

Andersen was a big fish in a small pond at Montana State. He proved his status as a true NFL linebacker at the Senior Bowl. He’s a linebacker with good coverage skills, and made a great play on the football against Turner on this red zone fade:

One-on-one coverage drills are incredibly difficult on the defenders. There’s so much space and time to account for, and the offense is always at an advantage. Andersen recovers so well after a nice route from the tight end:

The plays in one-on-one are nice, but plays like this in team periods are very impressive. Andersen fights through two blocks, moves laterally while keeping his eyes on the running back’s path, and then puts himself in position to make a tackle if it were contact:
The first two articles mention him as a converted receiver. I'm sure he'd be interested to see that considering he had 80 total receiving yards in his career.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by BigBruceBaker » Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:45 am

snowxlt wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 am
Biggest winners from 2022 Senior Bowl week
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/20 ... an-watson/

Troy Anderson
There were many eyes on the small-school standout who made the conversion from quarterback/running back/wide receiver to linebacker, and his play raised their eyebrows. With his impressive athleticism, Andersen looked comfortable dropping back and making plays in coverage. His speed and range enabled him to move freely from sideline to sideline and make stops on opposing ball carriers. Andersen also showed plenty of special teams upside, as he was consistently the first guy down the field on coverage units.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-qb-m ... 34016.html
Troy Anderson
There was some real fascination with how Andersen might perform at the event, and some evaluators came in thinking that the converted receiver might be a candidate to move back to offense in the NFL.

That still could happen, but the way Andersen performed on defense opened eyes. He showed a lot more comfort moving in reverse after mainly being used as a pass rusher in college. Andersen suddenly has a lot of evaluators going back to the tape to see how best to unlock his fascinating skill set.

https://www.bigblueview.com/2022/2/6/22 ... e-analysis
LB Troy Andersen, Montana State

Andersen was a big fish in a small pond at Montana State. He proved his status as a true NFL linebacker at the Senior Bowl. He’s a linebacker with good coverage skills, and made a great play on the football against Turner on this red zone fade:

One-on-one coverage drills are incredibly difficult on the defenders. There’s so much space and time to account for, and the offense is always at an advantage. Andersen recovers so well after a nice route from the tight end:

The plays in one-on-one are nice, but plays like this in team periods are very impressive. Andersen fights through two blocks, moves laterally while keeping his eyes on the running back’s path, and then puts himself in position to make a tackle if it were contact:
Troy Anderson was the leading receiver for the last 7 years at MSU. Averaging 372 yards from scrimmage a game receiving.

Troy Andersen is a legit nfl linebacking prospect.

Man some of these dudes need to do some research before just spouting off crap.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Montanabob » Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:58 am

BigBruceBaker wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:45 am
snowxlt wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 am
Biggest winners from 2022 Senior Bowl week
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/20 ... an-watson/

Troy Anderson
There were many eyes on the small-school standout who made the conversion from quarterback/running back/wide receiver to linebacker, and his play raised their eyebrows. With his impressive athleticism, Andersen looked comfortable dropping back and making plays in coverage. His speed and range enabled him to move freely from sideline to sideline and make stops on opposing ball carriers. Andersen also showed plenty of special teams upside, as he was consistently the first guy down the field on coverage units.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-qb-m ... 34016.html
Troy Anderson
There was some real fascination with how Andersen might perform at the event, and some evaluators came in thinking that the converted receiver might be a candidate to move back to offense in the NFL.

That still could happen, but the way Andersen performed on defense opened eyes. He showed a lot more comfort moving in reverse after mainly being used as a pass rusher in college. Andersen suddenly has a lot of evaluators going back to the tape to see how best to unlock his fascinating skill set.

https://www.bigblueview.com/2022/2/6/22 ... e-analysis
LB Troy Andersen, Montana State

Andersen was a big fish in a small pond at Montana State. He proved his status as a true NFL linebacker at the Senior Bowl. He’s a linebacker with good coverage skills, and made a great play on the football against Turner on this red zone fade:

One-on-one coverage drills are incredibly difficult on the defenders. There’s so much space and time to account for, and the offense is always at an advantage. Andersen recovers so well after a nice route from the tight end:

The plays in one-on-one are nice, but plays like this in team periods are very impressive. Andersen fights through two blocks, moves laterally while keeping his eyes on the running back’s path, and then puts himself in position to make a tackle if it were contact:
Troy Anderson was the leading receiver for the last 7 years at MSU. Averaging 372 yards from scrimmage a game receiving.

Troy Andersen is a legit nfl linebacking prospect.

Man some of these dudes need to do some research before just spouting off crap.
2 out of 3 still got his name wrong.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by coloradocat » Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:12 pm

BigBruceBaker wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:45 am
snowxlt wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 am
Biggest winners from 2022 Senior Bowl week
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/20 ... an-watson/

Troy Anderson
There were many eyes on the small-school standout who made the conversion from quarterback/running back/wide receiver to linebacker, and his play raised their eyebrows. With his impressive athleticism, Andersen looked comfortable dropping back and making plays in coverage. His speed and range enabled him to move freely from sideline to sideline and make stops on opposing ball carriers. Andersen also showed plenty of special teams upside, as he was consistently the first guy down the field on coverage units.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-qb-m ... 34016.html
Troy Anderson
There was some real fascination with how Andersen might perform at the event, and some evaluators came in thinking that the converted receiver might be a candidate to move back to offense in the NFL.

That still could happen, but the way Andersen performed on defense opened eyes. He showed a lot more comfort moving in reverse after mainly being used as a pass rusher in college. Andersen suddenly has a lot of evaluators going back to the tape to see how best to unlock his fascinating skill set.

https://www.bigblueview.com/2022/2/6/22 ... e-analysis
LB Troy Andersen, Montana State

Andersen was a big fish in a small pond at Montana State. He proved his status as a true NFL linebacker at the Senior Bowl. He’s a linebacker with good coverage skills, and made a great play on the football against Turner on this red zone fade:

One-on-one coverage drills are incredibly difficult on the defenders. There’s so much space and time to account for, and the offense is always at an advantage. Andersen recovers so well after a nice route from the tight end:

The plays in one-on-one are nice, but plays like this in team periods are very impressive. Andersen fights through two blocks, moves laterally while keeping his eyes on the running back’s path, and then puts himself in position to make a tackle if it were contact:
Troy Anderson was the leading receiver for the last 7 years at MSU. Averaging 372 yards from scrimmage a game receiving.

Troy Andersen is a legit nfl linebacking prospect.

Man some of these dudes need to do some research before just spouting off crap.
If they can convince NFL scouts that he's some kind of Brian Urlacher/Christian McCaffrey/Cooper Kupp/Taysom Hill hybrid I'm all for it.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by Montanabob » Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:38 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:12 pm
BigBruceBaker wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:45 am
snowxlt wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 am
Biggest winners from 2022 Senior Bowl week
https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/20 ... an-watson/

Troy Anderson
There were many eyes on the small-school standout who made the conversion from quarterback/running back/wide receiver to linebacker, and his play raised their eyebrows. With his impressive athleticism, Andersen looked comfortable dropping back and making plays in coverage. His speed and range enabled him to move freely from sideline to sideline and make stops on opposing ball carriers. Andersen also showed plenty of special teams upside, as he was consistently the first guy down the field on coverage units.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-qb-m ... 34016.html
Troy Anderson
There was some real fascination with how Andersen might perform at the event, and some evaluators came in thinking that the converted receiver might be a candidate to move back to offense in the NFL.

That still could happen, but the way Andersen performed on defense opened eyes. He showed a lot more comfort moving in reverse after mainly being used as a pass rusher in college. Andersen suddenly has a lot of evaluators going back to the tape to see how best to unlock his fascinating skill set.

https://www.bigblueview.com/2022/2/6/22 ... e-analysis
LB Troy Andersen, Montana State

Andersen was a big fish in a small pond at Montana State. He proved his status as a true NFL linebacker at the Senior Bowl. He’s a linebacker with good coverage skills, and made a great play on the football against Turner on this red zone fade:

One-on-one coverage drills are incredibly difficult on the defenders. There’s so much space and time to account for, and the offense is always at an advantage. Andersen recovers so well after a nice route from the tight end:

The plays in one-on-one are nice, but plays like this in team periods are very impressive. Andersen fights through two blocks, moves laterally while keeping his eyes on the running back’s path, and then puts himself in position to make a tackle if it were contact:
Troy Anderson was the leading receiver for the last 7 years at MSU. Averaging 372 yards from scrimmage a game receiving.

Troy Andersen is a legit nfl linebacking prospect.

Man some of these dudes need to do some research before just spouting off crap.
If they can convince NFL scouts that he's some kind of Brian Urlacher/Christian McCaffrey/Cooper Kupp/Taysom Hill hybrid I'm all for it.
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