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Re: Trump's focus

Post by arvcat2 » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:41 pm

codecat wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:24 pm
BozoneCat wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:35 pm
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Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:17 am
With the November elections getting closer and closer, why is Trump avoiding the main issues voters are worried about? COVID, unemployment and race relations are at the top of the list. Polls show Trump's response of COVID and race relations are virtually the same - 67% disapprove - 33% approve. So the vast majority of Americans think Trump is doing terrible with his COVID response, so he decides to undermine the CDC and is now making decisions without input from medical professionals? How could that go wrong...? As COVID continues to wreak havoc across the country, unemployment will continue to be major issue. But have no worries, Trump will keep his focus on "race relations" by focusing on the preservation of statues and military base names.
Your forget that his unemployment number were the best in history for any color or gender a few short months ago before covid and that poor race relations construct of Obama and the left, and you are only assuming that covid is not a priority for Trump. One could equally argue that you and the left are intent on destroying this country with your handing of covid - the push is surely on by the left to do everthing they can to destroy Trumps economy by November.
Hint: @The Butcher is not "the left." ](*,)
He has espouses the Anti-American left position on everything I have read here. (Edit: in fairness, maybe there is some of his posts that I have not read that make your point).
As I alluded to in the other thread, I think people like myself and Butcher are actually a lot more conservative than you probably think. We are so thoroughly disgusted with Trump that we believe almost anyone is a better choice at this point (I don’t want to speak for him, but I think I have garnered this from his posts - feel free to correct me if that’s not right). I think you are making an unfair, and frankly kind of dangerous, leap to lump everyone that doesn’t plan on voting for Trump to be “anti-American” and socialist.
That's a fair argument - I will wait to comment on actual positions you take as in "ALM vs.BLM" before commenting.

Either way to not recognize the facts in all three issues because of a hatred for Trump is rather one-sided: Don't you agree that the economy was the best economy on most statistical measures before the covid pandemic? Maybe you don't believe that the lowest unemployment numbers in every category of gender, race, or position, were record low number and somehow were not good for any of these groups? At least Trump did something for the people with the economy rather than welcoming them into the welfare roles to secure a dependent class, as Obama did when he said that America would never see a good economy again. Perhaps it is what i said that the present poor race relations are a construct of Obama and the left - as he met with and encouraged the BLM movement which has proven, like most movements or issues on t he left, to appear "good for the people" on name or print only, but if you judge by terrorist leaders, and actions you cannot say they are good in any measure other than "Black Lives matter" is as noble of an ideal as "Fill-In-The-Blank Lives Matter". And to say Trump has avoided these issues as well as covid is unadulterated bias. Do you not remember that the left bashed him saying he was overreacting when he shut down travel from suspect countries before anyone else lifted a finger. And did he not appoint the Covid task force within a week of that action (although the majority of the press did not report that as a good thing). Did they not offer a set of guidelines for sates and individuals to follow for safe navigation of this virus. What about New York who never used the makeshift-hospital and other aids he provided them - instead declaring that nursing homes could not refuse covid patients and therefor sentencing many in these institutions to death. I could equally argue that the left has taken every opposite position that Trump has simply to use it in the press that covers for them. How much did the Left controlled House do about covid during their 3 witch-hunt which was impeaching the president then pounding their chests with pride, handing out gold pens, intent on telling the senate how they should do their job. Lastly, to believe that any President could have acted faster with the form of government that we have of 3 co-equal branches is not accurate as the President cannot order the states to do anything, where any Statist state can do the top down approach should they need to look good for their people and the world.

You are entitled to feel however you do about Trump - I simply disagree because i have been watching his actions rather than his tweets/words. And since i mentioned his tweets - many on both sides of the Isle hate his tweets and call them not very Presidential, which may be the case, but I would argue that the country is presently in a street fight for the life of this Constitutional Republic and he is not afraid to fight, in the face of leftist and deep state opposition as never been seen before, for the country as founded, which is a government "For The People", and that is a Presidential as Possible! You might have to forgive me if i believe that hindering him in that fight is Anti-American as the left is.
Great posts Codecat...you're my Man! Our little board is either filled with fake "moderates", or shallow "image is everything, form over substance" types.



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Re: Trump's focus

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:37 pm

People can say what they want about Trump, but you gotta admit that he was very generous to give Stephanie Clifford all that money and that compliment about her looks.


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Re: Trump's focus

Post by wbtfg » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:54 pm

I hope he shot a low number today.



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Re: Trump's focus

Post by The Butcher » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:07 am

I have found that many Trump supporters consider everyone "left" if they don't agree with Trump. Just part of being a Trumper I guess...

Trump has no plan for the future. He has no focus. He is now retweeting Chuck Woolery about COVID! Trump is losing it, and taking our country down with him.




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Re: Trump's focus

Post by iaafan » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:26 am

The Butcher wrote:
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I have found that many Trump supporters consider everyone "left" if they don't agree with Trump. Just part of being a Trumper I guess...

Trump has no plan for the future. He has no focus. He is now retweeting Chuck Woolery about COVID! Trump is losing it, and taking our country down with him.

Donald Trump has done nothing to make me think he doesn't want to have sex with his own daughter. He told a porn star that he was having sex with behind his third wife's back that she reminded him of his daughter. So I don't really expect too much out of the guy. It is mind-boggling however that anyone is still supporting him, but here we are and there's still at least 40% of the people in the USA that would vote for this guy. He also hasn't done anything to make me think that he cares about Russia putting bounties on our troops or about Russia infiltrating our elections and has done very little to make me think he cares about racism or coronavirus.



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Re: Trump's focus

Post by iaafan » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:35 am

The Butcher wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:07 am
I have found that many Trump supporters consider everyone "left" if they don't agree with Trump. Just part of being a Trumper I guess...

Trump has no plan for the future. He has no focus. He is now retweeting Chuck Woolery about COVID! Trump is losing it, and taking our country down with him.

Many Republicans/Conservatives that have no background or expertise regarding coronavirus call anyone that doesn't agree (see Chuck's list) with their uneducated guesses liars and expect everyone to agree with them. It's like me saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes don't know how to play quarterback and expecting everyone to go forward believing that and denying that they were ever good when told by people like Tony Romo, Troy Aikman, Joe Theismann that they are good.



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Re: Trump's focus

Post by wbtfg » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:51 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:07 am
I have found that many Trump supporters consider everyone "left" if they don't agree with Trump. Just part of being a Trumper I guess...

Trump has no plan for the future. He has no focus. He is now retweeting Chuck Woolery about COVID! Trump is losing it, and taking our country down with him.

I’m still waiting for Bob Barker to weigh in.



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Re: Trump's focus

Post by The Butcher » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:28 am

Trump's inability to lead this country is starting to erode his enablers' support for reelection in the senate. This is only through June, and I can only imagine the next report with July's polls will only be worse for Republicans (Montana and Iowa are now toss up states).

https://cookpolitical.com/ratings/senat ... ngs/223551



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Re: Trump's focus

Post by RickRund » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:38 pm

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/15/a-scie ... wear-them/

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/17/cdc-po ... -pandemic/

Two instances of a hospital and the local health department with differing #s on positive tests, 98% vs 9$ and 78% vs 6%. People saying friends/family registered for covid tests, didn't want the long wait so left and later get a response saying they tested positive. Too many rumors, reports of numbers just not sounding right.

Reports of someone dying not from covid but their statistic goes to covid.



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Re: Trump's focus

Post by 91catAlum » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:32 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:38 pm
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/15/a-scie ... wear-them/

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/17/cdc-po ... -pandemic/

Two instances of a hospital and the local health department with differing #s on positive tests, 98% vs 9$ and 78% vs 6%. People saying friends/family registered for covid tests, didn't want the long wait so left and later get a response saying they tested positive. Too many rumors, reports of numbers just not sounding right.

Reports of someone dying not from covid but their statistic goes to covid.
And think about the life changing decisions being made based on this data.


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Re: Trump's focus

Post by RickRund » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:45 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:32 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:38 pm
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/15/a-scie ... wear-them/

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/17/cdc-po ... -pandemic/

Two instances of a hospital and the local health department with differing #s on positive tests, 98% vs 9$ and 78% vs 6%. People saying friends/family registered for covid tests, didn't want the long wait so left and later get a response saying they tested positive. Too many rumors, reports of numbers just not sounding right.

Reports of someone dying not from covid but their statistic goes to covid.
And think about the life changing decisions being made based on this data.
But which set of numbers, which set of stats?



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Re: Trump's focus

Post by Cataholic » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:08 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:38 pm
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/15/a-scie ... wear-them/

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/17/cdc-po ... -pandemic/

Two instances of a hospital and the local health department with differing #s on positive tests, 98% vs 9$ and 78% vs 6%. People saying friends/family registered for covid tests, didn't want the long wait so left and later get a response saying they tested positive. Too many rumors, reports of numbers just not sounding right.

Reports of someone dying not from covid but their statistic goes to covid.
Rick - I am not sure if you posted the right articles. I can’t figure out your comparison of numbers. However, I found both articles very interesting. I would love to hear more about the two treatment methods in the first article. If valid, these could be huge in turning the tide against covid.



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Re: Trump's focus

Post by Cataholic » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:26 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:08 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:38 pm
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/15/a-scie ... wear-them/

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/17/cdc-po ... -pandemic/

Two instances of a hospital and the local health department with differing #s on positive tests, 98% vs 9$ and 78% vs 6%. People saying friends/family registered for covid tests, didn't want the long wait so left and later get a response saying they tested positive. Too many rumors, reports of numbers just not sounding right.

Reports of someone dying not from covid but their statistic goes to covid.
Rick - I am not sure if you posted the right articles. I can’t figure out your comparison of numbers. However, I found both articles very interesting. I would love to hear more about the two treatment methods in the first article. If valid, these could be huge in turning the tide against covid.
The Zelenko protocol:

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 94237.html

The Bartlett Protocol. This article was not very supportive and seems to really go after Dr Bartlett. I don’t understand their attack on the doctor, especially since he has seen some success. His tests are still low in numbers, but 100% recovery is a good start.

https://www.trialsitenews.com/west-texa ... treatment/



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