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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by TomCat88 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:19 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!
I like Trump as much as anyone, but Trump doesn’t believe Russia has done anything wrong despite all the US intel saying otherwise. He defends Russia and doesn’t reprimand them. Since that’s the case, Russia feels free to carry on with cyber attacks.

People complain about parents that defend their kids when they break rules and how those kids will just keep breaking rules as long as their parents keep defending them.

It’s like that.


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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:52 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:19 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!
I like Trump as much as anyone, but Trump doesn’t believe Russia has done anything wrong despite all the US intel saying otherwise. He defends Russia and doesn’t reprimand them. Since that’s the case, Russia feels free to carry on with cyber attacks.

People complain about parents that defend their kids when they break rules and how those kids will just keep breaking rules as long as their parents keep defending them.

It’s like that.
It would be nice if dealing with Russia was as easy as dealing with kids that keep breaking the rules. Unfortunately, Russia is a world power who has strong influence on international trade, specifically energy. One of the reasons that crude oil went negative was because Russia and Saudi got into a price war. That event earlier this year has actually has led to a number of US energy companies filing for bankruptcy.

If the Democrats get a completely green economy and the traditional US energy market collapses, Russia will gain market share and have wide reaching influence over Europe and the rest of the world. Trump understands how important the US energy industry is to keeping Russia in check economically and has been active on that front.

I do wish Trump was more vocal about some issues with Russia. At a minimum, he could deflate the rhetoric going around that he considers Russia an ally. He knows they are world threat.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by wbtfg » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:58 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:19 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!
I like Trump as much as anyone, but Trump doesn’t believe Russia has done anything wrong despite all the US intel saying otherwise. He defends Russia and doesn’t reprimand them. Since that’s the case, Russia feels free to carry on with cyber attacks.

People complain about parents that defend their kids when they break rules and how those kids will just keep breaking rules as long as their parents keep defending them.

It’s like that.
It would be nice if dealing with Russia was as easy as dealing with kids that keep breaking the rules. Unfortunately, Russia is a world power who has strong influence on international trade, specifically energy. One of the reasons that crude oil went negative was because Russia and Saudi got into a price war. That event earlier this year has actually has led to a number of US energy companies filing for bankruptcy.

If the Democrats get a completely green economy and the traditional US energy market collapses, Russia will gain market share and have wide reaching influence over Europe and the rest of the world. Trump understands how important the US energy industry is to keeping Russia in check economically and has been active on that front.

I do wish Trump was more vocal about some issues with Russia. At a minimum, he could deflate the rhetoric going around that he considers Russia an ally. He knows they are world threat.
China also a world power who carries even more weight in world trade. The president and supporters have no problems holding them accountable. What’s the difference?



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by codecat » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:13 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:58 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:19 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!
I like Trump as much as anyone, but Trump doesn’t believe Russia has done anything wrong despite all the US intel saying otherwise. He defends Russia and doesn’t reprimand them. Since that’s the case, Russia feels free to carry on with cyber attacks.

People complain about parents that defend their kids when they break rules and how those kids will just keep breaking rules as long as their parents keep defending them.

It’s like that.
It would be nice if dealing with Russia was as easy as dealing with kids that keep breaking the rules. Unfortunately, Russia is a world power who has strong influence on international trade, specifically energy. One of the reasons that crude oil went negative was because Russia and Saudi got into a price war. That event earlier this year has actually has led to a number of US energy companies filing for bankruptcy.

If the Democrats get a completely green economy and the traditional US energy market collapses, Russia will gain market share and have wide reaching influence over Europe and the rest of the world. Trump understands how important the US energy industry is to keeping Russia in check economically and has been active on that front.

I do wish Trump was more vocal about some issues with Russia. At a minimum, he could deflate the rhetoric going around that he considers Russia an ally. He knows they are world threat.
China also a world power who carries even more weight in world trade. The president and supporters have no problems holding them accountable. What’s the difference?
The American consumer has been giving China power by how he/she spends his/her dollars, and Obama made terrible trade deals with China (really designed to weaken the USA). The allegations that Russia has offered rewards to take out American servicemen has not been totally confirmed by US intelligence - I don't think I would want any President holding another country accountable for something that only the Leftist media machine says is true.


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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:09 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:58 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:19 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!
I like Trump as much as anyone, but Trump doesn’t believe Russia has done anything wrong despite all the US intel saying otherwise. He defends Russia and doesn’t reprimand them. Since that’s the case, Russia feels free to carry on with cyber attacks.

People complain about parents that defend their kids when they break rules and how those kids will just keep breaking rules as long as their parents keep defending them.

It’s like that.
It would be nice if dealing with Russia was as easy as dealing with kids that keep breaking the rules. Unfortunately, Russia is a world power who has strong influence on international trade, specifically energy. One of the reasons that crude oil went negative was because Russia and Saudi got into a price war. That event earlier this year has actually has led to a number of US energy companies filing for bankruptcy.

If the Democrats get a completely green economy and the traditional US energy market collapses, Russia will gain market share and have wide reaching influence over Europe and the rest of the world. Trump understands how important the US energy industry is to keeping Russia in check economically and has been active on that front.

I do wish Trump was more vocal about some issues with Russia. At a minimum, he could deflate the rhetoric going around that he considers Russia an ally. He knows they are world threat.
China also a world power who carries even more weight in world trade. The president and supporters have no problems holding them accountable. What’s the difference?
The US is a huge buyer of Chinese products. Many of these products can be purchased from other countries and some could be probably be produced in the US (like steel). Given that US purchases $500+ billion in products from China, we use that as leverage in our foreign policy negotiable with them. We don’t have that same leverage with Russia.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by The Butcher » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:56 pm

So here we are again. More damning evidence of Russia and Trump.
Hopefully he gets that meeting with Putin soon.

https://apnews.com/5e833a62e9492f6a6662 ... acqmnQTD8A



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by wbtfg » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm

So the republican led senate intelligence committee concluded that “the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers...”

Interesting....



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by arvcat2 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:10 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm
So the republican led senate intelligence committee concluded that “the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers...”

Interesting....
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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by wbtfg » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:14 pm

arvcat2 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:10 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm
So the republican led senate intelligence committee concluded that “the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers...”

Interesting....
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I didn’t bring it up today, the senate did.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by CatBlitz » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:16 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:14 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:10 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm
So the republican led senate intelligence committee concluded that “the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers...”

Interesting....
:deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,)
I didn’t bring it up today, the senate did.
Quit reminding them of their illegal activities. It's only a dead horse when they keep getting called out on it.


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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by arvcat2 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:42 am

CatBlitz wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:16 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:14 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:10 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm
So the republican led senate intelligence committee concluded that “the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers...”

Interesting....
:deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,)
I didn’t bring it up today, the senate did.
Quit reminding them of their illegal activities. It's only a dead horse when they keep getting called out on it.
After almost four years of the Dems & the majority media (I repeat myself) obsessing over Trump/Russia collusion and 2 ½ years of the Andrew Weisman (Mueller was nothing more than a figurehead) special counsel investigation, can you, CatBlitz, name one single American, let alone Trump or an associate of his, that has been indicted, convicted, fined, or imprisoned for having ANYTHING to do with Russia collusion in the 2016 election???

As you mention illegal activities, does the name Kevin Clinesmith ring a bell?

DE JUE VUE ALERT to iaafan, this where you jump in with your guilty until proven innocent argument.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by The Butcher » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:41 am

arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:42 am
CatBlitz wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:16 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:14 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:10 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm
So the republican led senate intelligence committee concluded that “the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers...”

Interesting....
:deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,)
I didn’t bring it up today, the senate did.
Quit reminding them of their illegal activities. It's only a dead horse when they keep getting called out on it.
After almost four years of the Dems & the majority media (I repeat myself) obsessing over Trump/Russia collusion and 2 ½ years of the Andrew Weisman (Mueller was nothing more than a figurehead) special counsel investigation, can you, CatBlitz, name one single American, let alone Trump or an associate of his, that has been indicted, convicted, fined, or imprisoned for having ANYTHING to do with Russia collusion in the 2016 election???

As you mention illegal activities, does the name Kevin Clinesmith ring a bell?

DE JUE VUE ALERT to iaafan, this where you jump in with your guilty until proven innocent argument.
Richard Pinedo: The California man was sentenced to six months in prison in Oct. 2018 for selling bank account numbers to Russians who engaged in election interference. He has no known connection to Trump.
Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted of lying to investigators about about Russian contacts.
Roger Stone: Sentenced to 40 months in prison for crimes that include obstruction of justice, lying to Congress and witness tampering. A federal jury convicted Stone last year after he lied to Congress about his efforts to learn more about when WikiLeaks (RUSSIA) would publish damaging emails about Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential election.
Flynn was about to but Trump's AG Barr stopped it. :lol:



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by arvcat2 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:31 am

The Butcher wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:41 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:42 am
CatBlitz wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:16 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:14 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:10 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm
So the republican led senate intelligence committee concluded that “the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers...”

Interesting....
:deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,)
I didn’t bring it up today, the senate did.
Quit reminding them of their illegal activities. It's only a dead horse when they keep getting called out on it.
After almost four years of the Dems & the majority media (I repeat myself) obsessing over Trump/Russia collusion and 2 ½ years of the Andrew Weisman (Mueller was nothing more than a figurehead) special counsel investigation, can you, CatBlitz, name one single American, let alone Trump or an associate of his, that has been indicted, convicted, fined, or imprisoned for having ANYTHING to do with Russia collusion in the 2016 election???

As you mention illegal activities, does the name Kevin Clinesmith ring a bell?

DE JUE VUE ALERT to iaafan, this where you jump in with your guilty until proven innocent argument.
Richard Pinedo: The California man was sentenced to six months in prison in Oct. 2018 for selling bank account numbers to Russians who engaged in election interference. He has no known connection to Trump.
Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted of lying to investigators about about Russian contacts.
Roger Stone: Sentenced to 40 months in prison for crimes that include obstruction of justice, lying to Congress and witness tampering. A federal jury convicted Stone last year after he lied to Congress about his efforts to learn more about when WikiLeaks (RUSSIA) would publish damaging emails about Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential election.
Flynn was about to but Trump's AG Barr stopped it. :lol:
Good on you, Master Butch, for digging up this Pinedo fellow and admitting he has nothing to do with Trump/Russia collusion.

Regarding Papadopoulos & Flynn, if they in fact had been caught conspiring, colluding, etc. with Russians, wouldn’t they have been charged with something like treason??? Nope, they have been prosecuted for “process crimes” for supposedly being dishonest to dishonest FBI/DOJ investigators (a conspiracy theory in your universe, regardless of the recent Kevin Clinesmith guilty plea).

As to Stone, yep, he was charged and sentenced as you state. However, the prosecution of him did not result in him being convicted of conspiring, colluding, etc. with Russians. Again, treason or something along those lines??? Nope. Assange (WikiLeaks) is not a Russian, but please show me FACTUAL information that WikiLeaks obtained the damaging emails from Russia.

To paraphrase CatBlitz, it’s only a dead horse when you, the Dems, and their media allies can’t accept that Trump won in 2016 and false Trump/Russia collusion narrative continues to be pushed. Go ahead, keep :deadhorse:



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by The Butcher » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:51 am

arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:31 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:41 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:42 am
CatBlitz wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:16 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:14 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:10 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm
So the republican led senate intelligence committee concluded that “the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers...”

Interesting....
:deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,) :deadhorse: ](*,)
I didn’t bring it up today, the senate did.
Quit reminding them of their illegal activities. It's only a dead horse when they keep getting called out on it.
After almost four years of the Dems & the majority media (I repeat myself) obsessing over Trump/Russia collusion and 2 ½ years of the Andrew Weisman (Mueller was nothing more than a figurehead) special counsel investigation, can you, CatBlitz, name one single American, let alone Trump or an associate of his, that has been indicted, convicted, fined, or imprisoned for having ANYTHING to do with Russia collusion in the 2016 election???

As you mention illegal activities, does the name Kevin Clinesmith ring a bell?

DE JUE VUE ALERT to iaafan, this where you jump in with your guilty until proven innocent argument.
Richard Pinedo: The California man was sentenced to six months in prison in Oct. 2018 for selling bank account numbers to Russians who engaged in election interference. He has no known connection to Trump.
Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted of lying to investigators about about Russian contacts.
Roger Stone: Sentenced to 40 months in prison for crimes that include obstruction of justice, lying to Congress and witness tampering. A federal jury convicted Stone last year after he lied to Congress about his efforts to learn more about when WikiLeaks (RUSSIA) would publish damaging emails about Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential election.
Flynn was about to but Trump's AG Barr stopped it. :lol:
Good on you, Master Butch, for digging up this Pinedo fellow and admitting he has nothing to do with Trump/Russia collusion.

Regarding Papadopoulos & Flynn, if they in fact had been caught conspiring, colluding, etc. with Russians, wouldn’t they have been charged with something like treason??? Nope, they have been prosecuted for “process crimes” for supposedly being dishonest to dishonest FBI/DOJ investigators (a conspiracy theory in your universe, regardless of the recent Kevin Clinesmith guilty plea).

As to Stone, yep, he was charged and sentenced as you state. However, the prosecution of him did not result in him being convicted of conspiring, colluding, etc. with Russians. Again, treason or something along those lines??? Nope. Assange (WikiLeaks) is not a Russian, but please show me FACTUAL information that WikiLeaks obtained the damaging emails from Russia.

To paraphrase CatBlitz, it’s only a dead horse when you, the Dems, and their media allies can’t accept that Trump won in 2016 and false Trump/Russia collusion narrative continues to be pushed. Go ahead, keep :deadhorse:
It is obvious you are blind to the obvious corruption and the failure of this presidency, but 70 former Republican National Security Officials are not.
Facts do matter to people who are not part of the "base".




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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Cataholic » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:52 pm

arvcat2 wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:31 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:41 am
arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:42 am
CatBlitz wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:16 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:14 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:10 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm
So the republican led senate intelligence committee concluded that “the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers...”

Interesting....
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I didn’t bring it up today, the senate did.
Quit reminding them of their illegal activities. It's only a dead horse when they keep getting called out on it.
After almost four years of the Dems & the majority media (I repeat myself) obsessing over Trump/Russia collusion and 2 ½ years of the Andrew Weisman (Mueller was nothing more than a figurehead) special counsel investigation, can you, CatBlitz, name one single American, let alone Trump or an associate of his, that has been indicted, convicted, fined, or imprisoned for having ANYTHING to do with Russia collusion in the 2016 election???

As you mention illegal activities, does the name Kevin Clinesmith ring a bell?

DE JUE VUE ALERT to iaafan, this where you jump in with your guilty until proven innocent argument.
Richard Pinedo: The California man was sentenced to six months in prison in Oct. 2018 for selling bank account numbers to Russians who engaged in election interference. He has no known connection to Trump.
Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted of lying to investigators about about Russian contacts.
Roger Stone: Sentenced to 40 months in prison for crimes that include obstruction of justice, lying to Congress and witness tampering. A federal jury convicted Stone last year after he lied to Congress about his efforts to learn more about when WikiLeaks (RUSSIA) would publish damaging emails about Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential election.
Flynn was about to but Trump's AG Barr stopped it. :lol:
Good on you, Master Butch, for digging up this Pinedo fellow and admitting he has nothing to do with Trump/Russia collusion.

Regarding Papadopoulos & Flynn, if they in fact had been caught conspiring, colluding, etc. with Russians, wouldn’t they have been charged with something like treason??? Nope, they have been prosecuted for “process crimes” for supposedly being dishonest to dishonest FBI/DOJ investigators (a conspiracy theory in your universe, regardless of the recent Kevin Clinesmith guilty plea).

As to Stone, yep, he was charged and sentenced as you state. However, the prosecution of him did not result in him being convicted of conspiring, colluding, etc. with Russians. Again, treason or something along those lines??? Nope. Assange (WikiLeaks) is not a Russian, but please show me FACTUAL information that WikiLeaks obtained the damaging emails from Russia.

To paraphrase CatBlitz, it’s only a dead horse when you, the Dems, and their media allies can’t accept that Trump won in 2016 and false Trump/Russia collusion narrative continues to be pushed. Go ahead, keep :deadhorse:
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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by The Butcher » Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:35 am

DHS withheld July intelligence bulletin calling out Russian attack on Biden’s mental health. Oddly this is the same talking point Trump is using.

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news ... k-72747130



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Cataholic » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:06 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:35 am
DHS withheld July intelligence bulletin calling out Russian attack on Biden’s mental health. Oddly this is the same talking point Trump is using.

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news ... k-72747130
Funny... that is the same talking point that Fox News, NY Post and many others have been using as well. If that is the intel that Russia can deliver, they have clearly been watching Biden’s public appearances.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by The Butcher » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:16 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:06 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:35 am
DHS withheld July intelligence bulletin calling out Russian attack on Biden’s mental health. Oddly this is the same talking point Trump is using.

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news ... k-72747130
Funny... that is the same talking point that Fox News, NY Post and many others have been using as well. If that is the intel that Russia can deliver, they have clearly been watching Biden’s public appearances.
So you think it was the proper call to not follow protocol and share the information with authorities? Interesting.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Cataholic » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:12 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:16 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:06 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:35 am
DHS withheld July intelligence bulletin calling out Russian attack on Biden’s mental health. Oddly this is the same talking point Trump is using.

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news ... k-72747130
Funny... that is the same talking point that Fox News, NY Post and many others have been using as well. If that is the intel that Russia can deliver, they have clearly been watching Biden’s public appearances.
So you think it was the proper call to not follow protocol and share the information with authorities? Interesting.
What a second. In your original post, you insinuated that Trump was somehow using the same talking point that was in a buried intelligence briefing and also involved the Russians. You are making up total BS. Everyone knows that Biden is slipping mentally and it has been stated repeatedly in the media, but you somehow want to point out that Trump was using this info surreptitiously?? That is ridiculous.



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