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Covid hits MSU athletes

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Post by wbtfg » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:28 pm

I hope it’s a mild case and he heals up quickly. All the best to this young man and his family.



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Post by wapiti » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm

Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.



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Post by The Butcher » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm

wapiti wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm
Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.
Not sure there will be a season. ☹️



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Post by catsrback76 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:20 pm

It was inevitable, now to see how everything pans out and how leadership leads going forward. This can be either a "China" response or a "Sweden" response moment.



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Post by Montanabob » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:25 am

Lock them all in a room and cough on each other with a Corona virus victim in the room. Get it out of the way come on


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Post by bozely » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:50 am

Season definitely in doubt, there's just no way to ensure the players won't spread it.


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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by wapiti » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 am

The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm
wapiti wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm
Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.
Not sure there will be a season. ☹️
Don't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.



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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by BleedingBLue » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:50 am

Multiple athletes from all sports will test positive for this thing at MSU. It's inevitable and expected. MSU no doubt has planned for this and unless it gets out of control it won't stop the season.



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Post by MSU01 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:27 am

BleedingBLue wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:50 am
Multiple athletes from all sports will test positive for this thing at MSU. It's inevitable and expected. MSU no doubt has planned for this and unless it gets out of control it won't stop the season.
I think it's pretty clear that a significant number of asymptomatic or mild cases of COVID-19 will be found as large groups of low-risk people like college and pro athletes are tested. Hopefully, some of this data can be used to determine just how many cases are out there that haven't been diagnosed due to a lack of symptoms or mild symptoms not requiring medical care. The key is to identify and isolate those cases so they don't spread to higher-risk portions of the MSU community who aren't elite athletes in the lowest-risk age group. If a few football players test positive here and there, they can deal with that. But if the virus spreads and there ends up being a widespread outbreak on the MSU campus, there's no way they'll be playing sports this fall.


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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by seataccat » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 am

wapiti wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm
wapiti wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm
Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.
Not sure there will be a season. ☹️
Don't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
Where do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.


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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by MSU01 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:22 pm

seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 am
wapiti wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm
wapiti wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm
Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.
Not sure there will be a season. ☹️
Don't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
Where do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.
The CDC put out a paper in May that estimated the death rate from symptomatic cases to be between 0.2% and 1%, with their "best guess" at 0.4%. There are other experts out there who think their best guess is too low and that the true death rate is in the higher end of the CDC's range of estimates, but it's probably not wrong to say that COVID-19 is over 99% survivable for a randomly selected person with no regard to age or other health conditions.

Having said that, it's utterly asinine to state that COVID-19 is no more dangerous than the common flu. All of the data shows that death and hospitalization rates from COVID-19 are substantially higher than those for the flu - the only disagreement is in terms of how much more dangerous it is.


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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by Cat Grad » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:51 pm

It's amazing to think that a century ago Maurice Hilleman was going to school at MSU. Some of you might know that name, the guy who said his classes at the University of Chicago in his doctoral program were easier than the ones he took at MSU...

Facts and data in and of themselves are harmless. In the hands of an idiot, they are dangerous and can "prove" any opinion.



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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by grizzh8r » Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pm

seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 am
wapiti wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm
wapiti wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm
Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.
Not sure there will be a season. ☹️
Don't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
Where do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.
That would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths

It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!


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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by seataccat » Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:25 pm

grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pm
seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 am
wapiti wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm
wapiti wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm
Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.
Not sure there will be a season. ☹️
Don't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
Where do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.
That would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths

It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!
Yea hyperbolic my asscheeks. The spanish flu killed 600,000 in two years during a war. That is ~25,000/month. This virus has killed 125,000 in four months, that is certainly on pace to rival the spanish flu ~31,000/month. The spanish flu went through several peaks and valleys in the two years it was active.


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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by Cataholic » Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:54 pm

seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:25 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pm
seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 am
wapiti wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm
wapiti wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm
Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.
Not sure there will be a season. ☹️
Don't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
Where do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.
That would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths

It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!
Yea hyperbolic my asscheeks. The spanish flu killed 600,000 in two years during a war. That is ~25,000/month. This virus has killed 125,000 in four months, that is certainly on pace to rival the spanish flu ~31,000/month. The spanish flu went through several peaks and valleys in the two years it was active.
The US population in 1918 was less than one-third of what it is today. That changes your comparison significantly.



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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by seataccat » Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:24 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:54 pm
seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:25 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pm
seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 am
wapiti wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm
wapiti wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm
Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.
Not sure there will be a season. ☹️
Don't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
Where do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.
That would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths

It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!
Yea hyperbolic my asscheeks. The spanish flu killed 600,000 in two years during a war. That is ~25,000/month. This virus has killed 125,000 in four months, that is certainly on pace to rival the spanish flu ~31,000/month. The spanish flu went through several peaks and valleys in the two years it was active.
The US population in 1918 was less than one-third of what it is today. That changes your comparison significantly.
So what? The point is that we are on pace to have more people dead from this than the spanish flu. I guess we'll put an asterisk by the statistics in the history books to make you feel better.


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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by bobcat99 » Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:29 pm

seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:24 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:54 pm
seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:25 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pm
seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 am
wapiti wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm
wapiti wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm
Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.
Not sure there will be a season. ☹️
Don't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
Where do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.
That would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths

It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!
Yea hyperbolic my asscheeks. The spanish flu killed 600,000 in two years during a war. That is ~25,000/month. This virus has killed 125,000 in four months, that is certainly on pace to rival the spanish flu ~31,000/month. The spanish flu went through several peaks and valleys in the two years it was active.
The US population in 1918 was less than one-third of what it is today. That changes your comparison significantly.
So what? The point is that we are on pace to have more people dead from this than the spanish flu. I guess we'll put an asterisk by the statistics in the history books to make you feel better.
Any rational person would realize that percentage of population is a more accurate statistic for what you want to compare here.



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Re: Covid hits MSU athletes

Post by Cataholic » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:37 pm

seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:24 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:54 pm
seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:25 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pm
seataccat wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 am
wapiti wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm
wapiti wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:43 pm
Better to get it now during early summer than during the season this fall.
Not sure there will be a season. ☹️
Don't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
Where do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.
That would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths

It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!
Yea hyperbolic my asscheeks. The spanish flu killed 600,000 in two years during a war. That is ~25,000/month. This virus has killed 125,000 in four months, that is certainly on pace to rival the spanish flu ~31,000/month. The spanish flu went through several peaks and valleys in the two years it was active.
The US population in 1918 was less than one-third of what it is today. That changes your comparison significantly.
So what? The point is that we are on pace to have more people dead from this than the spanish flu. I guess we'll put an asterisk by the statistics in the history books to make you feel better.
Do I really have to explain? 25,000 per 100 million is much different than 31,000 per 360 million.



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