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Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:51 am
by ChiOCat
Who knows if she's still in MT, but please keep an eye out for her.
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Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:32 am
by canyoncat
Doesn't sound very good. I was talking to a lady who is from the area (family has a farm in Lambert) and she told me they had dogs out searching for her. The dogs followed her the trail she was on and located a shoe and a glove, but no other sign. Very sad!!
This is the one thing that is bad about the oil boom going on in Eastern Montana/Westen North Dakota. With all the new people coming in there are going to be some real bad characters following. Granted this could happen even with out the oil boom. The town of Sidney is absolutley crazy busy! Bumper to bumper traffic on the highway through town and no hotel rooms unless you call a good month or more in advance.
Hope they find her.
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:48 am
by ChiOCat
canyoncat wrote:Doesn't sound very good. I was talking to a lady who is from the area (family has a farm in Lambert) and she told me they had dogs out searching for her. The dogs followed her the trail she was on and located a shoe and a glove, but no other sign. Very sad!!
This is the one thing that is bad about the oil boom going on in Eastern Montana/Westen North Dakota. With all the new people coming in there are going to be some real bad characters following. Granted this could happen even with out the oil boom. The town of Sidney is absolutley crazy busy! Bumper to bumper traffic on the highway through town and no hotel rooms unless you call a good month or more in advance.
Hope they find her.
I know, they had three canine units in yesterday, the National Guard (they happened to be in town for training) and 1,000 volunteers searching. I'm pretty sure she's not in Sidney anymore. I had the exact thought you did, it's likely an oil field worker.
She was known to run early in the morning and had 3 main routes she ran. Just like most anyone who walks or runs outdoors.
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:33 am
by LTown Cat
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:25 pm
by wbtfg
Unfortunately she was found dead this morning.
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Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:50 pm
by ChiOCat
Terribly sad. Unbelievable really.
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:26 am
by canyoncat
Okay, now I am confussed. She actually has not been found??
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Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:38 am
by ChiOCat
I think that it was just assumed they'd found her body when they announced she was dead. On Friday afternoon CNN kept saying that the FBI had not confirmed they had the body.
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:11 pm
by seataccat
Very sad stuff. The FBI would not say that she is confirmed dead unless they know. I am guessing but I'll bet they found enough of her blood in a car or something to confirm she is dead without finding her body.
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:54 pm
by ChiOCat
There is so much wrong with this. I hope that the family gets some answers soon. And these low lifes get what they deserve.
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GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. — One of the suspects in the alleged kidnapping of a Montana teacher now presumed dead received court permission to leave Colorado just two days before the woman disappeared.
The Grand Junction Daily Sentinel reports 22-year-old Michael Keith Spell of Parachute received permission from a Garfield County judge on Jan. 5 to go to Texas, saying his brother had been in a car accident there.
Forty-three-year-old Sherry Arnold disappeared two days later in Sidney, Mont.
Spell is facing arraignment in Garfield County on charges he tried to convince a middle school student to text fellow students and ask them if they wanted to buy marijuana.
He was arrested Jan. 13 in Rapid City, S.D., and is being held on aggravated kidnapping charges in North Dakota along with 47-year-old Lester Vann Waters.
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Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:54 pm
by ChiOCat
They need to be gone, but death is too good for them.
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Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:00 pm
by AlphaGriz1
Thes 2 need to be fed through a chipper shredder, feet first until they talk.......then when they tell the location and the body is recovered........finish feeding them through.
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:42 am
by ChiOCat
AlphaGriz1 wrote:Thes 2 need to be fed through a chipper shredder, feet first until they talk.......then when they tell the location and the body is recovered........finish feeding them through.
I think you may have found the perfect solution. I'm not usually a "get 'em" kinda gal, but they did it for no other reason than just to kill a woman. It's so senseless!!!
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:55 pm
by canyoncat
Question for those who understand criminal law. Since (so far) no body has been recoverd, can they get a murder one coonviction? I think they know exactly where the body is. Could this be the reason they are not telling or claiming they don't remember?
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:37 pm
by AlphaGriz1
canyoncat wrote:Question for those who understand criminal law. Since (so far) no body has been recoverd, can they get a murder one coonviction? I think they know exactly where the body is. Could this be the reason they are not telling or claiming they don't remember?
I dont understand criminal law but I think RECENTLY they have allowed murder convictions without a body. The old rule was "no body no murder" was done away with for political reasons in the 50s.
A list of some of the murder convictions without a body.......not very common.
AL - Choctow - Choctow Three 1999
AK - Kodiak Island - Donald McDonald 1986
DC - Washington - Jay Lentz 19961
OH - Clinton - Vincent Doan 1996
OK - Pontotoc - Ward & Fontenot 19842
PA - Delaware - Robert Rivera 1999
WV - Grant - Paul Ferrell 1988
ON - Toronto - Robert Baltovich 1990
England - Pinfold & MacKenney 1974
Australia (NT) - Lindy Chamberlain 1980
Australia (SA) - Raymond Geesing 1983
Australia (WA) - Rory Christie 2001
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:28 pm
by canyoncat
But, what about murder one? Can you only get the death penalty on a murder one conviction without a body?
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:28 pm
by RickRund
And we have one of these messes going on near us. The "speed freak killers" as they have been named, one Loren Herzog and the other Wesley Shermantine, had a mass grave in one and maybe more well site on one of the two's former property.....So far maybe more than 1000 bones fragments on just one of the sites. Authorities are now digging with a huge excavator on another well site.....Will not try to explain why, but Herzog was housed in a trailer off site at the Correctional Facility near Susanville, CA.....He hung himself. Shermantine will surely live a long life behind bars with a cot and three hots.....
These guys and those in the Sidney case are animals, no offense animals.....
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Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:38 pm
by kcatz
But, what about murder one? Can you only get the death penalty on a murder one conviction without a body?
I actually believe they have conveniently forgotten where the body is because they would rather have life in prison in No Dak than the death penalty in Montana, if they can't prove when/where she was killed then they will only be able to go on what they say as to where to charge the murder charge.
Also I thought the aggrevated kidnapping was a death penalty in Montana.
Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:37 pm
by bobcatmaniac
AlphaGriz1 wrote:canyoncat wrote:Question for those who understand criminal law. Since (so far) no body has been recoverd, can they get a murder one coonviction? I think they know exactly where the body is. Could this be the reason they are not telling or claiming they don't remember?
I dont understand criminal law but I think RECENTLY they have allowed murder convictions without a body. The old rule was "no body no murder" was done away with for political reasons in the 50s.
A list of some of the murder convictions without a body.......not very common.
AL - Choctow - Choctow Three 1999
AK - Kodiak Island - Donald McDonald 1986
DC - Washington - Jay Lentz 19961
OH - Clinton - Vincent Doan 1996
OK - Pontotoc - Ward & Fontenot 19842
PA - Delaware - Robert Rivera 1999
WV - Grant - Paul Ferrell 1988
ON - Toronto - Robert Baltovich 1990
England - Pinfold & MacKenney 1974
Australia (NT) - Lindy Chamberlain 1980
Australia (SA) - Raymond Geesing 1983
Australia (WA) - Rory Christie 2001
Brisbin played for the cats in the 70's
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Re: Missing runner in Sidney
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:10 am
by RickRund
Had no idea about Brisbin.....Played Softball against him way back in the mid 70's and early 80's if my memory serves me correctly.....
