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Re: 10 Major Myths

Post by SonomaCat » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:17 pm

AlphaGriz1 wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:When addressed to a large black audience by a black person, articles like this appear to be sincere and likely constructive.

When posted by a white person on a website whose demographic is 99% non-black ... it doesn't quite come off the same way.
First of all I dont care how it came off.

Second, a friend of mine that was a former cat football coach suggested I post that article on here so he could see the reaction of the posters on your site. (hint, hes not white).

He said it would turn into a redneck lynch party and I told him it would not because most people are too afraid to voice any opinion they have on this kind of stuff because the first cry out is always like BAC, "your racist". Guess I won.
That's a heckuva story you just told there, Alpha. :lol: Anybody, white or black, would readily anticipate that most people on this site would nod their head in agreement to the article and say, "Yep, that's what's wrong with some black people." And, when speaking of a particular segment of the population, I think most of us agree with most of that the author had to say (not that our opinions are necessarily informed on the topic) ... but most of us (2506 is taking a long time coming up with the exact %, but apparently it's pretty high :wink: ) aren't in a position where it affects us in any way because we aren't a part of the target audience. That's why the article is really only constructive when addressed to a black audience.

There's nothing at all wrong with the article ... it's an article by a black person addressing the "black community" of which they are a part, and in that context, it seems like a pretty powerful piece. It took courage for the author to write it (but not for somebody to post it in on a website like this).

And I didn't call anyone a racist, obviously. But nice try with the ol' reverse race card move.
People need to quit being cowards and speak their mind no matter what side of the argument you are on. Its just a kneejerk label and it only hurts or is demeaning if you empower it. I personally dont care if people think I am a racist or I am not, I know who I am and thats all that matters to me.
Actually, you just posted it to get a rise out of people (favorably, in this case) ... just as with most all of your posts. Not many people will fall for a story claiming that you've suddenly taken a sincere interest in nuanced coversations on topics like this (or that posting an article like that on this site is in any way courageous). Not many ... but there are exceptions. :wink:



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Re: 10 Major Myths

Post by SonomaCat » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:49 pm

BigBruceBaker wrote: I didn't even read the article but agree with AG1. We are WAYYYYYY to politically correct in this world. Speak your mind and stand behind what you say.
That's an interesting statement ... check out your posts on page 4:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21148&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=tebow

That entire thread was the biggest display of knee-jerk PC behavior we've ever seen on this board ... and you were one of the people most vocally promoting politically correct policing.

Just something to think about. :wink:



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Re: 10 Major Myths

Post by BigBruceBaker » Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:29 am

Bay Area Cat wrote:
BigBruceBaker wrote: I didn't even read the article but agree with AG1. We are WAYYYYYY to politically correct in this world. Speak your mind and stand behind what you say.
That's an interesting statement ... check out your posts on page 4:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21148&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=tebow

That entire thread was the biggest display of knee-jerk PC behavior we've ever seen on this board ... and you were one of the people most vocally promoting politically correct policing.

Just something to think about. :wink:
WEAK. I expected way better out of you. That was the culmination of a long line of rants you had given and no where in there do I say you have to do this or that it was merely a suggestion. I still stand behind what I said, like I say above.

Merry Christmas BAC.(Not being sarcastic I just won't probably be on here till after the weekend.)


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Re: 10 Major Myths

Post by seataccat » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:06 am

BigBruceBaker wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:
BigBruceBaker wrote: I didn't even read the article but agree with AG1. We are WAYYYYYY to politically correct in this world. Speak your mind and stand behind what you say.
That's an interesting statement ... check out your posts on page 4:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21148&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=tebow

That entire thread was the biggest display of knee-jerk PC behavior we've ever seen on this board ... and you were one of the people most vocally promoting politically correct policing.

Just something to think about. :wink:
WEAK. I expected way better out of you. That was the culmination of a long line of rants you had given and no where in there do I say you have to do this or that it was merely a suggestion. I still stand behind what I said, like I say above.

Merry Christmas BAC.(Not being sarcastic I just won't probably be on here till after the weekend.)
Weak??? I'd say that was a slam dunk.


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Re: 10 Major Myths

Post by AlphaGriz1 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:34 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
AlphaGriz1 wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:When addressed to a large black audience by a black person, articles like this appear to be sincere and likely constructive.

When posted by a white person on a website whose demographic is 99% non-black ... it doesn't quite come off the same way.
First of all I dont care how it came off.

Second, a friend of mine that was a former cat football coach suggested I post that article on here so he could see the reaction of the posters on your site. (hint, hes not white).

He said it would turn into a redneck lynch party and I told him it would not because most people are too afraid to voice any opinion they have on this kind of stuff because the first cry out is always like BAC, "your racist". Guess I won.
That's a heckuva story you just told there, Alpha. :lol: Anybody, white or black, would readily anticipate that most people on this site would nod their head in agreement to the article and say, "Yep, that's what's wrong with some black people." And, when speaking of a particular segment of the population, I think most of us agree with most of that the author had to say (not that our opinions are necessarily informed on the topic) ... but most of us (2506 is taking a long time coming up with the exact %, but apparently it's pretty high :wink: ) aren't in a position where it affects us in any way because we aren't a part of the target audience. That's why the article is really only constructive when addressed to a black audience.

There's nothing at all wrong with the article ... it's an article by a black person addressing the "black community" of which they are a part, and in that context, it seems like a pretty powerful piece. It took courage for the author to write it (but not for somebody to post it in on a website like this).

And I didn't call anyone a racist, obviously. But nice try with the ol' reverse race card move.
People need to quit being cowards and speak their mind no matter what side of the argument you are on. Its just a kneejerk label and it only hurts or is demeaning if you empower it. I personally dont care if people think I am a racist or I am not, I know who I am and thats all that matters to me.
Actually, you just posted it to get a rise out of people (favorably, in this case) ... just as with most all of your posts. Not many people will fall for a story claiming that you've suddenly taken a sincere interest in nuanced coversations on topics like this (or that posting an article like that on this site is in any way courageous). Not many ... but there are exceptions. :wink:
You are so wrong on so many levels I dont even know where to start.

I didnt post the article to get a rise out of anyone, it was a "test/project" between a black guy and me. We both had our own opinions on how the statements would play out and the other one disagreed.

You were insinuating I had racist intentions for posting this but I really dont care one way or the other.

"Courage for the author to write"? Why? Speaking the truth generally doesnt take courage IMO. The author has unlimited statistical backing and just somehow got it published in a magazine that normally doesnt have articles in it. (I know, I subscribe)

Oh and we are part of the target audience and it DOES affect us each and everyday in one way or another. We have to hear the endless bitching about how the field isnt level in the news. We have portions of our tax dollars paid out to help the single mothers who chose to put themselves in the position of raising kids without a father. (black&white women both do this) It affects our schools, workplaces and criminal justice system.


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Re: 10 Major Myths

Post by SonomaCat » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:44 pm

And Merry Christmas to you, Bruce. My gift to you will be not spiking that set. :wink:



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Re: 10 Major Myths

Post by ChiOCat » Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:11 am

AlphaGriz1 wrote:
CapitalCityCat wrote:Ok, so if choosy moms choose Jif does that mean 100% of choosy moms? Or just 99% of choosy moms? And is choosy even a real word?

:-k damn liberals.

93% of moms are Choosy.


I would bang at least 87% of the "hot brunette" choosy moms.............and I might even use some Jif while doing it.



Oh and 71% of non white people polled think "choosy" is in fact a real word. Awight.
I use Jif....makes me want to change just to be a rebel! 8)

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