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Post by John K » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:25 pm

codecat wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:30 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:13 pm
Cataholic wrote:
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having a "too large" magazine...

Wondering when antifa and blm will be arrested for their burning, their harassment and weapons violations. Also the dc mayor banned the Proud Boys from carrying weapons (firearms) in the March. Again I would ask when antifa and blm will be banned from carrying the same. Waiting for arrests from the harassment at the Hawley residence...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... tent=daily
Except the protesters outside Hawley's house were peaceful, according to the police.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... 16c2d.html
Do you really believe it was peaceful? Did you watch the video? Would you be comfortable with that mob encroaching on your property? Comments made about killing their pets?
Was it worse than the mob that surrounded the house of Matt Kelley of the gallatin county health dept? I know his elementary school aged son was scared to go to sleep at night. I didn’t see you or Rick speaking about that and that’s right in Bozeman. Wonder why.....
Once again there is a huge difference between those hired guns in Antifa (not grassroots but funded by George Soros and others) as free speech and citizens that are angry with the decisions of their elected. Both may intimidate, in one case its individuals and the other they are hired guns of the left.
The National Association of Manufacturers, hardly a far left puppet group for your boogeyman, George Soros, is calling for Mike Pense to invoke the 25th amendment, and remove Trump from office. If you and all the other Trumpford Wives are going to continue supporting that madman after today...well I don't even know how to respond to that. You said in an earlier post that he is defending the constitution. Could you really keep a straight face while typing that? He has been actively trying to overturn the results of an election that has been found to be completely legitimate by Republican, Trump supporting election officials in many states, with more than 60 courts declining to hear his bogus lawsuits due to a lack of any supporting evidence, with his own lapdog AG saying he saw no evidence of widespread voter fraud, and with even his former BFF Mitch McConnell declining to support his case. Then, when all else failed, he asked Pence to just disregard the electoral college results, and declare that Trump had won the election. It seems to me like you have a very peculiar idea of what constitutes defending the constitution.



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Post by codecat » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:20 pm

I would not have any doubts at all if evidence comes out that antifa guised as Trump supporters were the ones that broke into the capital - it has been the Lefts MO for Trump rally's for quite sometime. After some of these guys are bused in and are filmed and arrested multiple times, it gets quite predictable. Its just one more event on film now that is being collected against the corrupt deep state.

Perhaps you should view some of the evidence and hundreds of affidavits of election fraud collected b4 you accuse him of trying to overturn an election, and who are you to talk supporting the false accusation of Russian Collusion (performed by all anti-Trumpers that wanted nothing more than take Trump down, an ALL but one were Hillary campaign contributors) where the report said they could not find any proof Trump was involved in election fraud but couldn't prove he didn't either). Then there was the whole Quid pro quo accusation with the Ukraine that the Leftist House of Reps went after with a vengeance totally ignoring the corona virus (except for calling Trump xenophobic for stopping incoming foreign travel from some countries immediately and have continued to bash how he has handled the china virus).

In fact, you and your party of "better than you are" people have done more to try to overturn an election than any group in history!!!


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Post by The Butcher » Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:06 pm

The woman killed in the Capitol today was a Trump supported according to her husband. It is extremely sad that people are still brainwashed by Trump.



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Post by John K » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:01 pm

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I would not have any doubts at all if evidence comes out that antifa guised as Trump supporters were the ones that broke into the capital - it has been the Lefts MO for Trump rally's for quite sometime. After some of these guys are bused in and are filmed and arrested multiple times, it gets quite predictable. Its just one more event on film now that is being collected against the corrupt deep state.

Perhaps you should view some of the evidence and hundreds of affidavits of election fraud collected b4 you accuse him of trying to overturn an election, and who are you to talk supporting the false accusation of Russian Collusion (performed by all anti-Trumpers that wanted nothing more than take Trump down, an ALL but one were Hillary campaign contributors) where the report said they could not find any proof Trump was involved in election fraud but couldn't prove he didn't either). Then there was the whole Quid pro quo accusation with the Ukraine that the Leftist House of Reps went after with a vengeance totally ignoring the corona virus (except for calling Trump xenophobic for stopping incoming foreign travel from some countries immediately and have continued to bash how he has handled the china virus).

In fact, you and your party of "better than you are" people have done more to try to overturn an election than any group in history!!!
Don't you have a Q-Anon meeting to go to? Or is everyone from your local chapter in DC, at (or inside) the Capital building?



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Post by CelticCat » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:36 am

Getting conservatives to admit that maybe yesterday went just a little too far is like trying to nail Jell-O to the wall.


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Post by The Butcher » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:40 am

A Trump supporter carried the Confederate Flag through Congress. This is the first known time the flag was displayed in Congress.

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Getting conservatives to admit that maybe yesterday went just a little too far is like trying to nail Jell-O to the wall.
It doesn't take much time to find information proving that ANTIFA was not involved... But Trump supporters have happily had their heads in the sand for the past 4 years and will continue to do so no matter the facts laid in front of them...

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Post by Joe Bobcat » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:01 pm

John K wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:01 pm
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Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:20 pm
I would not have any doubts at all if evidence comes out that antifa guised as Trump supporters were the ones that broke into the capital - it has been the Lefts MO for Trump rally's for quite sometime. After some of these guys are bused in and are filmed and arrested multiple times, it gets quite predictable. Its just one more event on film now that is being collected against the corrupt deep state.

Perhaps you should view some of the evidence and hundreds of affidavits of election fraud collected b4 you accuse him of trying to overturn an election, and who are you to talk supporting the false accusation of Russian Collusion (performed by all anti-Trumpers that wanted nothing more than take Trump down, an ALL but one were Hillary campaign contributors) where the report said they could not find any proof Trump was involved in election fraud but couldn't prove he didn't either). Then there was the whole Quid pro quo accusation with the Ukraine that the Leftist House of Reps went after with a vengeance totally ignoring the corona virus (except for calling Trump xenophobic for stopping incoming foreign travel from some countries immediately and have continued to bash how he has handled the china virus).

In fact, you and your party of "better than you are" people have done more to try to overturn an election than any group in history!!!
Don't you have a Q-Anon meeting to go to? Or is everyone from your local chapter in DC, at (or inside) the Capital building?
Codecat, I'm not sure if the bolded part of your post is going to age very well. It looks like it's having a midlife crisis right now.
The following headline doesn't disprove your conspiracy theory but it doesn't help it either.
"Facial recognition company disputes viral story claiming it identified 'antifa' members among MAGA rioters".
I suppose time will tell.


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Post by codecat » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:56 pm

Joe Bobcat wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:01 pm
John K wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:01 pm
codecat wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:20 pm
I would not have any doubts at all if evidence comes out that antifa guised as Trump supporters were the ones that broke into the capital - it has been the Lefts MO for Trump rally's for quite sometime. After some of these guys are bused in and are filmed and arrested multiple times, it gets quite predictable. Its just one more event on film now that is being collected against the corrupt deep state.

Perhaps you should view some of the evidence and hundreds of affidavits of election fraud collected b4 you accuse him of trying to overturn an election, and who are you to talk supporting the false accusation of Russian Collusion (performed by all anti-Trumpers that wanted nothing more than take Trump down, an ALL but one were Hillary campaign contributors) where the report said they could not find any proof Trump was involved in election fraud but couldn't prove he didn't either). Then there was the whole Quid pro quo accusation with the Ukraine that the Leftist House of Reps went after with a vengeance totally ignoring the corona virus (except for calling Trump xenophobic for stopping incoming foreign travel from some countries immediately and have continued to bash how he has handled the china virus).

In fact, you and your party of "better than you are" people have done more to try to overturn an election than any group in history!!!
Don't you have a Q-Anon meeting to go to? Or is everyone from your local chapter in DC, at (or inside) the Capital building?
Codecat, I'm not sure if the bolded part of your post is going to age very well. It looks like it's having a midlife crisis right now.
The following headline doesn't disprove your conspiracy theory but it doesn't help it either.
"Facial recognition company disputes viral story claiming it identified 'antifa' members among MAGA rioters".
I suppose time will tell.
Thanks for the comment Joe Bobcat - you are right in that we do not know for sure if Antifa was involved in Storming the capital at this point and thank you for giving me the credit for saying that "I would not have any doubts" Antifa was involved. The facts as I know them are that multiple Antifa people have been arrested at Trump gatherings multiple times.

With regards to the facial recognition company, I would have to know a lot more about them, including ownership and history before trusting that what 'they said' is actually true as the control runs deep. The left in its control of the news for years has become quite masterful. The bottom line is that the news many listen too all sing in lockstep, the chorus of the day as if on queue, censor what they consider harmful to the cause, and lie by omission on a regular basis and the average person has no idea that their news has been shaped for them. There is an old saying that applies which says "we don't know what we don't know"


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This is disgusting. And please tell me that you were against the riots where similar language was being used by Antifa and even BLM.



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Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:02 am
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This is disgusting. And please tell me that you were against the riots where similar language was being used by Antifa and even BLM.
Can you make one post without a "what about" question?

But to answer, I'm never for violence.


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Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:02 am
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This is disgusting. And please tell me that you were against the riots where similar language was being used by Antifa and even BLM.
Yes, if that occurred it's disgusting as well. This post, however, is the by-product of high-ranking politicians lying to their followers. Antifa/BLM is the result of them seeing their fellow human beings killed for selling cigarettes and trying to pass fake money, etc. after decades/centuries of oppression. So while you are correct that the words by both are disgusting, there's another element that you're not mentioning and those makes these comparisons fall short.

I have a hard time finding comparisons to what happened at our nation's capitol building. It was such a huge, unique moment. It ranks up there with 9/11, Pearl Harbor, the Civil War...



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Post by Cataholic » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:31 am

CelticCat wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:09 am
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:02 am
CelticCat wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:05 pm
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This is disgusting. And please tell me that you were against the riots where similar language was being used by Antifa and even BLM.
Can you make one post without a "what about" question?

But to answer, I'm never for violence.
Glad to hear you are always against violence. I am not sure that your “what about” comment is fair. I am trying to point out that a “double standard” exists today.

Kamala Harris said “we are not going to let up” to support the riots over the summer. Words like rebellion were regularly used by members of the left. I think the guy that you quoted above is a jackass, but there seems to be a clear double standard on the “Patriots” versus the “BLM rioters”.

And to be clear, the violence at the capital this week was unacceptable, just like the violence over the summer was not acceptable. I am being consistent. I think it is a fair question to ask if others are being consistent as well.



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Post by ilovethecats » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:40 am

iaafan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:20 am
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:02 am
CelticCat wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:05 pm
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This is disgusting. And please tell me that you were against the riots where similar language was being used by Antifa and even BLM.
Yes, if that occurred it's disgusting as well. This post, however, is the by-product of high-ranking politicians lying to their followers. Antifa/BLM is the result of them seeing their fellow human beings killed for selling cigarettes and trying to pass fake money, etc. after decades/centuries of oppression. So while you are correct that the words by both are disgusting, there's another element that you're not mentioning and those makes these comparisons fall short.

I have a hard time finding comparisons to what happened at our nation's capitol building. It was such a huge, unique moment. It ranks up there with 9/11, Pearl Harbor, the Civil War...
Like everything these days, people are going to take sides. In it's simplest form, they are similar.

With BLM, the majority of the protesters were good people, peaceful protesting for a cause they believed strongly in. However, in every city there were bad people taking advantage of this cause and there was mass rioting, violence and buildings burning. There were some very scary moments in these cities.

What we saw Wednesday was in fact something we'd never seen before, the Capital building being overrun. But there was a majority of good people, peaceful protesting, for a cause they believed in.

Where things seem to get messy is this summer people acted as if all BLM supporters were just these thugs that didn't care for anything except rioting and looting. And on the other side there was people acting as if NOTHING bad was taking place. I actually saw a montage yesterday that have me laughing out loud. It was a bunch of clips of reporters talking about how peaceful the protests were, but in the background of every one of them you could see cars and buildings burning. Pretty dangerous in my mind.

Today, we seem to be lumping ALL Trump supporters together like they all are fine with idiots storming the capital. And while I personally don't understand how people can support that guy, as I think he's an incredible moron, I have no doubt in my mind there are very good people, unhappy with the state of our country, who support Trump because they think he's the lesser of two evils.

In my mind, the real issue is the division between the people, who have blind loyalty to a party instead of the greater good of the country. And it brings out the worst in all of us. This board is a microcosm of that I think. All great people who love our Bobcats, yet when the discussion is politics it gets just nasty.

My personal opinion is we are all just as guilty as the politicians we elected. Until we stop playing sides, acting as if "our side" is the "best side"; I don't see anything changing.

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Post by Cataholic » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:47 am

iaafan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:20 am
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:02 am
CelticCat wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:05 pm
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This is disgusting. And please tell me that you were against the riots where similar language was being used by Antifa and even BLM.
Yes, if that occurred it's disgusting as well. This post, however, is the by-product of high-ranking politicians lying to their followers. Antifa/BLM is the result of them seeing their fellow human beings killed for selling cigarettes and trying to pass fake money, etc. after decades/centuries of oppression. So while you are correct that the words by both are disgusting, there's another element that you're not mentioning and those makes these comparisons fall short.

I have a hard time finding comparisons to what happened at our nation's capitol building. It was such a huge, unique moment. It ranks up there with 9/11, Pearl Harbor, the Civil War...
That is a good point. I agree the two incidents have completely different backgrounds. I agree that the BLM issues are more important versus what the idiot “patriots” were fighting for. But if we are truly against violence, shouldn’t both actions of rioting be condemned?



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Post by iaafan » Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:53 am

ilovethecats wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:40 am
iaafan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:20 am
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:02 am
CelticCat wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:05 pm
Image
This is disgusting. And please tell me that you were against the riots where similar language was being used by Antifa and even BLM.
Yes, if that occurred it's disgusting as well. This post, however, is the by-product of high-ranking politicians lying to their followers. Antifa/BLM is the result of them seeing their fellow human beings killed for selling cigarettes and trying to pass fake money, etc. after decades/centuries of oppression. So while you are correct that the words by both are disgusting, there's another element that you're not mentioning and those makes these comparisons fall short.

I have a hard time finding comparisons to what happened at our nation's capitol building. It was such a huge, unique moment. It ranks up there with 9/11, Pearl Harbor, the Civil War...
Like everything these days, people are going to take sides. In it's simplest form, they are similar.

With BLM, the majority of the protesters were good people, peaceful protesting for a cause they believed strongly in. However, in every city there were bad people taking advantage of this cause and there was mass rioting, violence and buildings burning. There were some very scary moments in these cities.

What we saw Wednesday was in fact something we'd never seen before, the Capital building being overrun. But there was a majority of good people, peaceful protesting, for a cause they believed in.

Where things seem to get messy is this summer people acted as if all BLM supporters were just these thugs that didn't care for anything except rioting and looting. And on the other side there was people acting as if NOTHING bad was taking place. I actually saw a montage yesterday that have me laughing out loud. It was a bunch of clips of reporters talking about how peaceful the protests were, but in the background of every one of them you could see cars and buildings burning. Pretty dangerous in my mind.

Today, we seem to be lumping ALL Trump supporters together like they all are fine with idiots storming the capital. And while I personally don't understand how people can support that guy, as I think he's an incredible moron, I have no doubt in my mind there are very good people, unhappy with the state of our country, who support Trump because they think he's the lesser of two evils.

In my mind, the real issue is the division between the people, who have blind loyalty to a party instead of the greater good of the country. And it brings out the worst in all of us. This board is a microcosm of that I think. All great people who love our Bobcats, yet when the discussion is politics it gets just nasty.

My personal opinion is we are all just as guilty as the politicians we elected. Until we stop playing sides, acting as if "our side" is the "best side"; I don't see anything changing.

:kicksrock:
I see no similarity between people protesting for a fake cause, induced by politicians preying on ill-tempered racists, and people protesting for a real cause. Huge difference. Please supply more info as I'm having an incredibly difficult time with what you're getting at here.

I've heard no one say ALL Trump supporters are fine with the idiots storming the capital. Not once.

Please post the montage. I'd like, as you did, to be able to scrutinize it myself.



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Post by ilovethecats » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:15 am

iaafan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:53 am
ilovethecats wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:40 am
iaafan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:20 am
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:02 am
CelticCat wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:05 pm
Image
This is disgusting. And please tell me that you were against the riots where similar language was being used by Antifa and even BLM.
Yes, if that occurred it's disgusting as well. This post, however, is the by-product of high-ranking politicians lying to their followers. Antifa/BLM is the result of them seeing their fellow human beings killed for selling cigarettes and trying to pass fake money, etc. after decades/centuries of oppression. So while you are correct that the words by both are disgusting, there's another element that you're not mentioning and those makes these comparisons fall short.

I have a hard time finding comparisons to what happened at our nation's capitol building. It was such a huge, unique moment. It ranks up there with 9/11, Pearl Harbor, the Civil War...
Like everything these days, people are going to take sides. In it's simplest form, they are similar.

With BLM, the majority of the protesters were good people, peaceful protesting for a cause they believed strongly in. However, in every city there were bad people taking advantage of this cause and there was mass rioting, violence and buildings burning. There were some very scary moments in these cities.

What we saw Wednesday was in fact something we'd never seen before, the Capital building being overrun. But there was a majority of good people, peaceful protesting, for a cause they believed in.

Where things seem to get messy is this summer people acted as if all BLM supporters were just these thugs that didn't care for anything except rioting and looting. And on the other side there was people acting as if NOTHING bad was taking place. I actually saw a montage yesterday that have me laughing out loud. It was a bunch of clips of reporters talking about how peaceful the protests were, but in the background of every one of them you could see cars and buildings burning. Pretty dangerous in my mind.

Today, we seem to be lumping ALL Trump supporters together like they all are fine with idiots storming the capital. And while I personally don't understand how people can support that guy, as I think he's an incredible moron, I have no doubt in my mind there are very good people, unhappy with the state of our country, who support Trump because they think he's the lesser of two evils.

In my mind, the real issue is the division between the people, who have blind loyalty to a party instead of the greater good of the country. And it brings out the worst in all of us. This board is a microcosm of that I think. All great people who love our Bobcats, yet when the discussion is politics it gets just nasty.

My personal opinion is we are all just as guilty as the politicians we elected. Until we stop playing sides, acting as if "our side" is the "best side"; I don't see anything changing.

:kicksrock:
I see no similarity between people protesting for a fake cause, induced by politicians preying on ill-tempered racists, and people protesting for a real cause. Huge difference. Please supply more info as I'm having an incredibly difficult time with what you're getting at here.

I've heard no one say ALL Trump supporters are fine with the idiots storming the capital. Not once.

Please post the montage. I'd like, as you did, to be able to scrutinize it myself.
Well I saw the montage on the news yesterday. Perhaps I could find it.

I feel there is a similarity in that both groups of people were protesting in something they believe in. It may be a fake cause to you. Hell, it may be a fake cause to me. But it's certainly possible it was a real cause to those protesting. Maybe they just aren't as smart as you are, but there's a chance they really believed they were wanting their voice heard for something that is important to them.

If you don't see the division in the people, and people lumping people together like they are all the same that's great. I have a different opinion and I think in general, (not every single person in the country) we are in the habit of lumping people together. ALL democrats. ALL republicans. ALL BLM protesters. ALL Trump supporters. Etc.



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