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Re: COVID 19 deaths by day

Post by ilovethecats » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:06 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:45 am
iaafan wrote:
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SoDak now 8th, NoDak now 4th per capita. Montana 29th. In terms of cases SD and ND are 1st and 2nd. Montana 10th. In terms of testing Montana is 22nd, ND 40th, SD 47th.
A friend of mine here in SD has been in the ICU for 10 days (also on a ventilator). She is 78 years old, so some people would write her off because of her age. A work colleague is on oxygen at his house. The hospital is delivering medical equipment because if he gets worse they are unsure there will be a bed for him. He is 67 with pre-existing health conditions, so some people would write him off too. Pretty tough in SD right now...
The term “write them off” seems a bit nasty. I don’t know if anyone who share those views.

I’d be curious to know what death rates are per year based on age. Minus accidental and violent deaths of course. But how many people die of health issues every day and how it breaks down by age.

Without knowing this, though I assume the stats are available, it seems to me that the older the age; the higher the rates of death are. I’m curious how these would coincide with Covid deaths based on age.

I don’t “write off” anyone. But just as I’m not shocked by the ages and causes of deaths when I read the local obituary....I don’t find myself shocked by the ages and pre-existing conditions of Covid deaths. It doesn’t mean I don’t care about those lives.

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Re: COVID 19 deaths by day

Post by iaafan » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:15 pm

Second biggest death day and counting. 3,277



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Re: COVID 19 deaths by day

Post by iaafan » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:43 am

Top 10 days all this month:


1. 3,538 - December 16
2. 3,277 - December 17
3. 3,265 - December 9
4. 3,107 - December 10
5. 3,031 - December 11
6. 3,001 - December 15
7. 2,960 - December 8
8. 2,922 - December 3
9. 2,873 - December 2
10. 2,794 - December 18



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Re: COVID 19 deaths by day

Post by The Butcher » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:41 pm

South Dakota continues to creep up the list of deaths per capita now at 6th. Currently 1 out of 641 South Dakotans have reportedly died from COVID. In the past 7 days South Dakota is tied for the highest deaths per 100k. The governor continues to tout how wonderfully she has done during the pandemic mentioning only the economy never the human toll.



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Post by The Butcher » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:26 pm

The Onion has recognized just how bad the governor of SD has done.

https://www.theonion.com/state-by-state ... /slides/42



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Post by The Butcher » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:42 am

At the start of the pandemic there was an argument that it was not as deadly as medical professionals said (it was just the flu). Some posters even here argued that it was overblown, and the deaths in our country were virtually the same as usual. Over time I think many of us now believe the severity of COVID. Now with data 2020 will go down as the deadliest year in U.S. history, with deaths topping 3 million for the first time.

But life expectancy for 2020 could end up dropping as much as three full years, said Robert Anderson of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... d-74855303



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Post by BigBruceBaker » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:02 am

This seems to be the most appropriate place to put this. This seems to suggest that deaths are up specifically due to COVID-19, which is not surprising. If i remember correctly @catatac was tracking these items with other causes of death? How does this line up with what you were seeing/thinking?

https://www.foxnews.com/health/us-death ... er-counted


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Post by iaafan » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:00 pm

Yesterday's death count (1,841) was the highest for that day of the week since the beginning of this.



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Post by catatac » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:15 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:42 am
At the start of the pandemic there was an argument that it was not as deadly as medical professionals said (it was just the flu). Some posters even here argued that it was overblown, and the deaths in our country were virtually the same as usual. Over time I think many of us now believe the severity of COVID. Now with data 2020 will go down as the deadliest year in U.S. history, with deaths topping 3 million for the first time.

But life expectancy for 2020 could end up dropping as much as three full years, said Robert Anderson of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... d-74855303
That is a great article, thanks for sharing. This article raises some very interesting considerations in terms of 2020 deaths from auto accidents, drug OD's, suicides, etc. Also interesting to hear the prediction about 2020 deaths. I am one that has said all along that the 2020 deaths probably wouldn't be significantly higher than expected, prior to COVID. I am 100% fine to admit if I'm wrong once the true numbers come out. It is interesting though to look at the data and determine truthfully how many deaths were caused directly from the actual COVID virus, and how many deaths were caused due to the reaction to COVID.


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Re: COVID 19 deaths by day

Post by iaafan » Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:58 am

Yesterday was second worst day. 14 of top 20 in December. Worst month by far.
1. 3,538 - December 16
2. 3,376 - December 22
3. 3,277 - December 17
4. 3,265 - December 9
5. 3,107 - December 10
6. 3,031 - December 11
7. 3,001 - December 15
8. 2,960 - December 8
9. 2,922 - December 3
10. 2,873 - December 2
11. 2,794 - December 18
12. 2,744 - April 21
13. 2,713 - December 4
14. 2,695 - April 15
15. 2,669 - December 1
16. 2,633 - April 14
17. 2,601 - April 17
18. 2,582 - May 6
19. 2,556 - December 19
20. 2,541 - April 28



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Re: COVID 19 deaths by day

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:08 am

iaafan wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:58 am
Yesterday was second worst day. 14 of top 20 in December. Worst month by far.
1. 3,538 - December 16
2. 3,376 - December 22
3. 3,277 - December 17
4. 3,265 - December 9
5. 3,107 - December 10
6. 3,031 - December 11
7. 3,001 - December 15
8. 2,960 - December 8
9. 2,922 - December 3
10. 2,873 - December 2
11. 2,794 - December 18
12. 2,744 - April 21
13. 2,713 - December 4
14. 2,695 - April 15
15. 2,669 - December 1
16. 2,633 - April 14
17. 2,601 - April 17
18. 2,582 - May 6
19. 2,556 - December 19
20. 2,541 - April 28
A new #2 for the second day in a row. Awful 😣


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Re: COVID 19 deaths by day

Post by iaafan » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:30 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:08 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:58 am
Yesterday was second worst day. 14 of top 20 in December. Worst month by far.
1. 3,538 - December 16
2. 3,376 - December 22
3. 3,277 - December 17
4. 3,265 - December 9
5. 3,107 - December 10
6. 3,031 - December 11
7. 3,001 - December 15
8. 2,960 - December 8
9. 2,922 - December 3
10. 2,873 - December 2
11. 2,794 - December 18
12. 2,744 - April 21
13. 2,713 - December 4
14. 2,695 - April 15
15. 2,669 - December 1
16. 2,633 - April 14
17. 2,601 - April 17
18. 2,582 - May 6
19. 2,556 - December 19
20. 2,541 - April 28
A new #2 for the second day in a row. Awful 😣
Yup, so sad. At its worst right at Christmas time.

1. 3,538 - December 16
2. 3,401- December 23
3. 3,376 - December 22
4. 3,277 - December 17
5. 3,265 - December 9
6. 3,107 - December 10
7. 3,031 - December 11
8. 3,001 - December 15
9. 2,960 - December 8
10. 2,922 - December 3
11. 2,873 - December 2
12. 2,794 - December 18
13. 2,744 - April 21
14. 2,713 - December 4
15. 2,695 - April 15
16. 2,669 - December 1
17. 2,633 - April 14
18. 2,601 - April 17
19. 2,582 - May 6
20. 2,556 - December 19



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Re: COVID 19 deaths by day

Post by iaafan » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:33 pm

iaafan wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:46 am
These are all the dates with 2,000 or more deaths as you can see November and December are creeping in there. Hopefully this current peak is the last as cases do appear to be stabilizing. Would be nice to be on a downward trend as the vaccines are brought on line.

1. 3,538 - December 16
2. 3,401- December 23
3. 3,376 - December 22
4. 3,277 - December 17
5. 3,265 - December 9
6. 3,107 - December 10
7. 3,031 - December 11
8. 3,001 - December 15
9. 2,960 - December 8
10. 2,922 - December 3
11. 2,873 - December 2
12. 2,835 - December 24
12. 2,794 - December 18
13. 2,744 - April 21
14. 2,713 - December 4
15. 2,695 - April 15
16. 2,669 - December 1
17. 2,633 - April 14
18. 2,601 - April 17
19. 2,582 - May 6
20. 2,556 - December 19
21. 2,541 - April 28
22. 2,459 - April 29
23. 2,420 - April 22
24. 2,413 - April 23
24. 2,413 - May 5
26. 2,332 - November 25
27. 2,309 - December 12
28. 2,283 - April 10
29. 2,280 - April 30
30. 2,278 - April 7
31. 2,256 - December 5
32. 2,255 - April 16
33. 2,212 - April 8
34. 2,210 - November 24
35. 2,177 - May 7
36 2,151 - April 9
37. 2,114 - April 25
38. 2,070 - April 11
39. 2,067 - November 1



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Re: COVID 19 deaths by day

Post by The Butcher » Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:16 am

Congressman-elect Luke Letlow has died after being diagnosed with Covid-19, his spokesman confirmed Tuesday evening. He was 41 years of age.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/29/politics ... index.html



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Post by ilovethecats » Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:34 pm

So can I assume with this running death count that we have way more deaths in the US this year compared to last? I've heard varying reports on that.



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Post by wbtfg » Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:47 pm

ilovethecats wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:34 pm
So can I assume with this running death count that we have way more deaths in the US this year compared to last? I've heard varying reports on that.
According to this, it's very likely but too early to know exact numbers.

https://usafacts.org/articles/prelimina ... s-age-flu/



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Post by iaafan » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:35 pm

Numbers of deaths per year vary from year to year, so the real question here is (controlling for the variable deaths per year) how many of the people that died covid-related deaths would have died this year regardless of covid? This is probably impossible to answer exactly.

I, too, have seen articles questioning the number of deaths this year. Several of them had only tracked deaths from February to November for some reason. Nevertheless there's a push, I assume from Covid-deniers or Covid-minimizers, to show that the Covid deaths aren't affecting the overall death count. Like controlling for the variable deaths question above this is probably impossible to answer.

To make the argument that Covid deaths aren't affecting overall deaths, you also have to consider that Covid protocols (social distancing, masking, etc.) could be keeping deaths down from other sources. So it's a very booby-trapped discussion or undertaking. What if we had the exact same number of deaths this year as last year, but had it not been for covid the deaths, and covid protocol preventing other kinds of deaths, we may have been significantly lower than last year.

Traffic volumes are down this year, which may have prevented vehicle fatalities. Suicides are up this year due to Covid. So Covid has effected behavior in many ways and those things effect the death rate. I don't know how much of a conclusion you can draw from the death data considering all that.

The death rate is just one problem with Covid. It has an affect on the economy, general health care due to crowded and unsanitary hospitals, and it's difficult to pinpoint just how things would be if there was no Covid. Things would most likely be better, but it's hard to say how. We may have ended up having a recession without Covid, who knows? It might've been a horrendous flu year.



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Post by ilovethecats » Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:22 pm

iaafan wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:35 pm
Numbers of deaths per year vary from year to year, so the real question here is (controlling for the variable deaths per year) how many of the people that died covid-related deaths would have died this year regardless of covid? This is probably impossible to answer exactly.

I, too, have seen articles questioning the number of deaths this year. Several of them had only tracked deaths from February to November for some reason. Nevertheless there's a push, I assume from Covid-deniers or Covid-minimizers, to show that the Covid deaths aren't affecting the overall death count. Like controlling for the variable deaths question above this is probably impossible to answer.

To make the argument that Covid deaths aren't affecting overall deaths, you also have to consider that Covid protocols (social distancing, masking, etc.) could be keeping deaths down from other sources. So it's a very booby-trapped discussion or undertaking. What if we had the exact same number of deaths this year as last year, but had it not been for covid the deaths, and covid protocol preventing other kinds of deaths, we may have been significantly lower than last year.

Traffic volumes are down this year, which may have prevented vehicle fatalities. Suicides are up this year due to Covid. So Covid has effected behavior in many ways and those things effect the death rate. I don't know how much of a conclusion you can draw from the death data considering all that.

The death rate is just one problem with Covid. It has an affect on the economy, general health care due to crowded and unsanitary hospitals, and it's difficult to pinpoint just how things would be if there was no Covid. Things would most likely be better, but it's hard to say how. We may have ended up having a recession without Covid, who knows? It might've been a horrendous flu year.
Good post.

I was only speaking to the deaths as we have 6 pages here just keeping track of the deaths. So while I know there are MANY other ramifications of this virus besides deaths, I’m just curious if the deaths this year are going to end up much higher than any other year? And while I’m obviously not hoping for more deaths, it sure would make me feel better about what a horrendous year this was for so many if when all was said and done we saw the virus was responsible for far more deaths in 2020 that we’ve seen any other year. Otherwise I have questions and frustrations.

Appreciate the insights!



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Post by wbtfg » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:36 am

iaafan wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:58 am
Yesterday was second worst day. 14 of top 20 in December. Worst month by far.
1. 3,538 - December 16
2. 3,376 - December 22
3. 3,277 - December 17
4. 3,265 - December 9
5. 3,107 - December 10
6. 3,031 - December 11
7. 3,001 - December 15
8. 2,960 - December 8
9. 2,922 - December 3
10. 2,873 - December 2
11. 2,794 - December 18
12. 2,744 - April 21
13. 2,713 - December 4
14. 2,695 - April 15
15. 2,669 - December 1
16. 2,633 - April 14
17. 2,601 - April 17
18. 2,582 - May 6
19. 2,556 - December 19
20. 2,541 - April 28
The US hit 3,882 yesterday for a new record for deaths in a single day.



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Post by iaafan » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:52 am

wbtfg wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:36 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:58 am
Yesterday was second worst day. 14 of top 20 in December. Worst month by far.
1. 3,538 - December 16
2. 3,376 - December 22
3. 3,277 - December 17
4. 3,265 - December 9
5. 3,107 - December 10
6. 3,031 - December 11
7. 3,001 - December 15
8. 2,960 - December 8
9. 2,922 - December 3
10. 2,873 - December 2
11. 2,794 - December 18
12. 2,744 - April 21
13. 2,713 - December 4
14. 2,695 - April 15
15. 2,669 - December 1
16. 2,633 - April 14
17. 2,601 - April 17
18. 2,582 - May 6
19. 2,556 - December 19
20. 2,541 - April 28
The US hit 3,882 yesterday for a new record for deaths in a single day.
1. 3,880- December 30
2. 3,717 - December 29
3. 3,538 - December 16
4. 3,401- December 23
5. 3,376 - December 22
6. 3,277 - December 17
7. 3,265 - December 9
8. 3,107 - December 10
9. 3,031 - December 11
10. 3,001 - December 15
11. 2,960 - December 8
12. 2,922 - December 3
13. 2,873 - December 2
14. 2,835 - December 24
15. 2,794 - December 18
16. 2,744 - April 21
17. 2,713 - December 4
18. 2,695 - April 15
19. 2,669 - December 1
20. 2,633 - April 14

Yes, the top 20 is almost all December. One more day to go. January might be worse. :(



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