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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by catatac » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:38 am

Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:56 am
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:03 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:59 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:40 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:31 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:01 pm
This is truly amazing how CNN and the mainstream media have tried to bury this story:

Remember when Tucker’s own attorneys used this as a defense in a libel case?

Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
So you are saying that Bobulinksi is lying, or that Tucker is lying? Do you believe this is all made up?
I’m not saying any of that.
I am really confused now. Do you believe the story then?
I’m open minded, but Tucker Carlson isn’t someone I look to for honest reporting. His own lawyer said so.
Isn’t that a pretty slippery slope? Is anything Tucker reports not true? In this instance, he actually has witnesses to corroborate the documents. Biden’s team actually requested that HIS laptop be returned. This witness has taped conversations and in his own words, lots of detailed documents.

While Biden’s dealings bring up the question of whether he is compromised with certain countries, what is really troubling is the lack of any attempt by the mainstream to cover this. Can you imagine if this was Donald Jr, Ivanka or Jared Kushner? This would be the lead story at every network. Just look at the coverage by the mainstream media of The Atlantic story where anonymous sources were used and lots of witnesses contested the story was not true. It still led every outlet. Another example was the “anonymous” Trump insider who posted an editorial On Trump in the New York Times. It was carried by every major news outlet despite being anonymous. Miles Taylor just admitted that he was the anonymous author and is now a regular on CNN. Ends up that Taylor was not a cabinet member as portrayed but a staff member to a department head, but all the mainstream media went after Trump. This is a huge problem right now.

Seriously, if the mainstream media went after Biden like they do Trump, would Biden have any chance at winning? The media that our country relies on for news is only interested in making one party look good, and one party look bad.
It is very sad, and scary that CNN and some other "mainstream" news avenues can get away with this. However... fortunately a LOT of American voters are smart and completely see through all of this. That's why Trump won last time and that's why voters that do their own research and don't let "news" outlets sway their views... will show up in mass numbers at the voting booth again. The scary part though is the influence this has on younger, or ignorant voters that believe what CNN is telling them.


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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by iaafan » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:55 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:38 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:56 am
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:03 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:59 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:40 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:31 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:01 pm
This is truly amazing how CNN and the mainstream media have tried to bury this story:

Remember when Tucker’s own attorneys used this as a defense in a libel case?

Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
So you are saying that Bobulinksi is lying, or that Tucker is lying? Do you believe this is all made up?
I’m not saying any of that.
I am really confused now. Do you believe the story then?
I’m open minded, but Tucker Carlson isn’t someone I look to for honest reporting. His own lawyer said so.
Isn’t that a pretty slippery slope? Is anything Tucker reports not true? In this instance, he actually has witnesses to corroborate the documents. Biden’s team actually requested that HIS laptop be returned. This witness has taped conversations and in his own words, lots of detailed documents.

While Biden’s dealings bring up the question of whether he is compromised with certain countries, what is really troubling is the lack of any attempt by the mainstream to cover this. Can you imagine if this was Donald Jr, Ivanka or Jared Kushner? This would be the lead story at every network. Just look at the coverage by the mainstream media of The Atlantic story where anonymous sources were used and lots of witnesses contested the story was not true. It still led every outlet. Another example was the “anonymous” Trump insider who posted an editorial On Trump in the New York Times. It was carried by every major news outlet despite being anonymous. Miles Taylor just admitted that he was the anonymous author and is now a regular on CNN. Ends up that Taylor was not a cabinet member as portrayed but a staff member to a department head, but all the mainstream media went after Trump. This is a huge problem right now.

Seriously, if the mainstream media went after Biden like they do Trump, would Biden have any chance at winning? The media that our country relies on for news is only interested in making one party look good, and one party look bad.
It is very sad, and scary that CNN and some other "mainstream" news avenues can get away with this. However... fortunately a LOT of American voters are smart and completely see through all of this. That's why Trump won last time and that's why voters that do their own research and don't let "news" outlets sway their views... will show up in mass numbers at the voting booth again. The scary part though is the influence this has on younger, or ignorant voters that believe what CNN is telling them.
So you want the news to chase every uncorroborated story that anyone ever brings up? That means that anyone can make a claim at any time and the media should cover it no matter how stupid it sounds. There are actually lots of stories that are corroborated that don't get covered, but we're supposed to believe that the "mainstream" networks are supposed to pretend that something that doesn't have any legs is what they should be spending time on.

It isn't whether or not Bobulinski is making this up or not, it's that he doesn't have any solid evidence to make it news.

The MSM isn't saying it isn't true either. They just don't know, like everyone, so they're not saying anything until there is evidence one way or the other. If anything that sounds wise. That's what everyone should do. Bobulinski got cut out of a deal by Hunter Biden, which makes Bobulinski a sketchy witness at best.

This sums up Bobulinski's story. It was true 7 days ago and it's true now. His story hasn't progressed since then.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html



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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:01 pm

iaafan wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:55 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:38 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:56 am
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:03 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:59 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:40 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:31 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:01 pm
This is truly amazing how CNN and the mainstream media have tried to bury this story:

Remember when Tucker’s own attorneys used this as a defense in a libel case?

Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
So you are saying that Bobulinksi is lying, or that Tucker is lying? Do you believe this is all made up?
I’m not saying any of that.
I am really confused now. Do you believe the story then?
I’m open minded, but Tucker Carlson isn’t someone I look to for honest reporting. His own lawyer said so.
Isn’t that a pretty slippery slope? Is anything Tucker reports not true? In this instance, he actually has witnesses to corroborate the documents. Biden’s team actually requested that HIS laptop be returned. This witness has taped conversations and in his own words, lots of detailed documents.

While Biden’s dealings bring up the question of whether he is compromised with certain countries, what is really troubling is the lack of any attempt by the mainstream to cover this. Can you imagine if this was Donald Jr, Ivanka or Jared Kushner? This would be the lead story at every network. Just look at the coverage by the mainstream media of The Atlantic story where anonymous sources were used and lots of witnesses contested the story was not true. It still led every outlet. Another example was the “anonymous” Trump insider who posted an editorial On Trump in the New York Times. It was carried by every major news outlet despite being anonymous. Miles Taylor just admitted that he was the anonymous author and is now a regular on CNN. Ends up that Taylor was not a cabinet member as portrayed but a staff member to a department head, but all the mainstream media went after Trump. This is a huge problem right now.

Seriously, if the mainstream media went after Biden like they do Trump, would Biden have any chance at winning? The media that our country relies on for news is only interested in making one party look good, and one party look bad.
It is very sad, and scary that CNN and some other "mainstream" news avenues can get away with this. However... fortunately a LOT of American voters are smart and completely see through all of this. That's why Trump won last time and that's why voters that do their own research and don't let "news" outlets sway their views... will show up in mass numbers at the voting booth again. The scary part though is the influence this has on younger, or ignorant voters that believe what CNN is telling them.
So you want the news to chase every uncorroborated story that anyone ever brings up? That means that anyone can make a claim at any time and the media should cover it no matter how stupid it sounds. There are actually lots of stories that are corroborated that don't get covered, but we're supposed to believe that the "mainstream" networks are supposed to pretend that something that doesn't have any legs is what they should be spending time on.

It isn't whether or not Bobulinski is making this up or not, it's that he doesn't have any solid evidence to make it news.

The MSM isn't saying it isn't true either. They just don't know, like everyone, so they're not saying anything until there is evidence one way or the other. If anything that sounds wise. That's what everyone should do. Bobulinski got cut out of a deal by Hunter Biden, which makes Bobulinski a sketchy witness at best.

This sums up Bobulinski's story. It was true 7 days ago and it's true now. His story hasn't progressed since then.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html
So please answer this on the two following examples. Why did the mainstream media run leads (And multiple follow up stories) on the Atlantic story and the anonymous Washington Times opinion piece? The only reason I can see is that they are critical of Trump.



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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by iaafan » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:17 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:01 pm
iaafan wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:55 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:38 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:56 am
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:03 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:59 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:40 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:31 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:01 pm
This is truly amazing how CNN and the mainstream media have tried to bury this story:

Remember when Tucker’s own attorneys used this as a defense in a libel case?

Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
So you are saying that Bobulinksi is lying, or that Tucker is lying? Do you believe this is all made up?
I’m not saying any of that.
I am really confused now. Do you believe the story then?
I’m open minded, but Tucker Carlson isn’t someone I look to for honest reporting. His own lawyer said so.
Isn’t that a pretty slippery slope? Is anything Tucker reports not true? In this instance, he actually has witnesses to corroborate the documents. Biden’s team actually requested that HIS laptop be returned. This witness has taped conversations and in his own words, lots of detailed documents.

While Biden’s dealings bring up the question of whether he is compromised with certain countries, what is really troubling is the lack of any attempt by the mainstream to cover this. Can you imagine if this was Donald Jr, Ivanka or Jared Kushner? This would be the lead story at every network. Just look at the coverage by the mainstream media of The Atlantic story where anonymous sources were used and lots of witnesses contested the story was not true. It still led every outlet. Another example was the “anonymous” Trump insider who posted an editorial On Trump in the New York Times. It was carried by every major news outlet despite being anonymous. Miles Taylor just admitted that he was the anonymous author and is now a regular on CNN. Ends up that Taylor was not a cabinet member as portrayed but a staff member to a department head, but all the mainstream media went after Trump. This is a huge problem right now.

Seriously, if the mainstream media went after Biden like they do Trump, would Biden have any chance at winning? The media that our country relies on for news is only interested in making one party look good, and one party look bad.
It is very sad, and scary that CNN and some other "mainstream" news avenues can get away with this. However... fortunately a LOT of American voters are smart and completely see through all of this. That's why Trump won last time and that's why voters that do their own research and don't let "news" outlets sway their views... will show up in mass numbers at the voting booth again. The scary part though is the influence this has on younger, or ignorant voters that believe what CNN is telling them.
So you want the news to chase every uncorroborated story that anyone ever brings up? That means that anyone can make a claim at any time and the media should cover it no matter how stupid it sounds. There are actually lots of stories that are corroborated that don't get covered, but we're supposed to believe that the "mainstream" networks are supposed to pretend that something that doesn't have any legs is what they should be spending time on.

It isn't whether or not Bobulinski is making this up or not, it's that he doesn't have any solid evidence to make it news.

The MSM isn't saying it isn't true either. They just don't know, like everyone, so they're not saying anything until there is evidence one way or the other. If anything that sounds wise. That's what everyone should do. Bobulinski got cut out of a deal by Hunter Biden, which makes Bobulinski a sketchy witness at best.

This sums up Bobulinski's story. It was true 7 days ago and it's true now. His story hasn't progressed since then.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html
So please answer this on the two following examples. Why did the mainstream media run leads (And multiple follow up stories) on the Atlantic story and the anonymous Washington Times opinion piece? The only reason I can see is that they are critical of Trump.
The Atlantic story was corroborated by four people. If four people came to the media with the same story about Biden, then it'd get some traction.
Remember the Swift Boat story? It had a bunch of people knocking John Kerry, so the real media did cover it even though it turned to be a questionable story.

You'll need to refresh my memory on the anonymous Washington Times opinion piece. Did you mean NY Times (Miles Taylor) or something in the WaPo?
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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by catatac » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:20 pm

1AA - Do you really think the powers that be at CNN do not have an anti Trump agenda? Serious question.


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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:31 pm

iaafan wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:17 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:01 pm
iaafan wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:55 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:38 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:56 am
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:03 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:59 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:40 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:31 pm


Remember when Tucker’s own attorneys used this as a defense in a libel case?

Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
So you are saying that Bobulinksi is lying, or that Tucker is lying? Do you believe this is all made up?
I’m not saying any of that.
I am really confused now. Do you believe the story then?
I’m open minded, but Tucker Carlson isn’t someone I look to for honest reporting. His own lawyer said so.
Isn’t that a pretty slippery slope? Is anything Tucker reports not true? In this instance, he actually has witnesses to corroborate the documents. Biden’s team actually requested that HIS laptop be returned. This witness has taped conversations and in his own words, lots of detailed documents.

While Biden’s dealings bring up the question of whether he is compromised with certain countries, what is really troubling is the lack of any attempt by the mainstream to cover this. Can you imagine if this was Donald Jr, Ivanka or Jared Kushner? This would be the lead story at every network. Just look at the coverage by the mainstream media of The Atlantic story where anonymous sources were used and lots of witnesses contested the story was not true. It still led every outlet. Another example was the “anonymous” Trump insider who posted an editorial On Trump in the New York Times. It was carried by every major news outlet despite being anonymous. Miles Taylor just admitted that he was the anonymous author and is now a regular on CNN. Ends up that Taylor was not a cabinet member as portrayed but a staff member to a department head, but all the mainstream media went after Trump. This is a huge problem right now.

Seriously, if the mainstream media went after Biden like they do Trump, would Biden have any chance at winning? The media that our country relies on for news is only interested in making one party look good, and one party look bad.
It is very sad, and scary that CNN and some other "mainstream" news avenues can get away with this. However... fortunately a LOT of American voters are smart and completely see through all of this. That's why Trump won last time and that's why voters that do their own research and don't let "news" outlets sway their views... will show up in mass numbers at the voting booth again. The scary part though is the influence this has on younger, or ignorant voters that believe what CNN is telling them.
So you want the news to chase every uncorroborated story that anyone ever brings up? That means that anyone can make a claim at any time and the media should cover it no matter how stupid it sounds. There are actually lots of stories that are corroborated that don't get covered, but we're supposed to believe that the "mainstream" networks are supposed to pretend that something that doesn't have any legs is what they should be spending time on.

It isn't whether or not Bobulinski is making this up or not, it's that he doesn't have any solid evidence to make it news.

The MSM isn't saying it isn't true either. They just don't know, like everyone, so they're not saying anything until there is evidence one way or the other. If anything that sounds wise. That's what everyone should do. Bobulinski got cut out of a deal by Hunter Biden, which makes Bobulinski a sketchy witness at best.

This sums up Bobulinski's story. It was true 7 days ago and it's true now. His story hasn't progressed since then.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html
So please answer this on the two following examples. Why did the mainstream media run leads (And multiple follow up stories) on the Atlantic story and the anonymous Washington Times opinion piece? The only reason I can see is that they are critical of Trump.
The Atlantic story was corroborated by four people. If four people came to the media with the same story about Biden, then it'd get some traction.
Remember the Swift Boat story? It had a bunch of people knocking John Kerry, so the real media did cover it even though it turned to be a questionable story.

You'll need to refresh my memory on the anonymous Washington Times opinion piece. Did you mean NY Times (Miles Taylor) or something in the WaPo?
Yes, the anonymous Miles Taylor post. And the Atlantic story has 20+

And the Biden laptop has been verified by multiple people. They also have Biden advisors on tape discussing it. They have Hunter Biden’s signature for the laptop. They have email recipients saying it is legitimate. The Biden attorneys requested the laptop back. And the Biden team has not denied that the laptop is Hunters. Joe Biden claimed it was Russian disinformation when the FBI and DOJ have said that it is not Russian disinformation.



https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/majo ... l-records-
Johnson, Grassley Use Secret Service Records to Verify Content from Alleged Hunter Biden Laptop, Request More Travel Records



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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:35 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:03 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:59 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:40 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:31 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:01 pm
This is truly amazing how CNN and the mainstream media have tried to bury this story:

Remember when Tucker’s own attorneys used this as a defense in a libel case?

Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
So you are saying that Bobulinksi is lying, or that Tucker is lying? Do you believe this is all made up?
I’m not saying any of that.
I am really confused now. Do you believe the story then?
I’m open minded, but Tucker Carlson isn’t someone I look to for honest reporting. His own lawyer said so.
Looks like Tucker was telling the truth.




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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:35 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:31 pm
iaafan wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:17 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:01 pm
iaafan wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:55 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:38 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:56 am
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:03 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:59 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:40 pm


So you are saying that Bobulinksi is lying, or that Tucker is lying? Do you believe this is all made up?
I’m not saying any of that.
I am really confused now. Do you believe the story then?
I’m open minded, but Tucker Carlson isn’t someone I look to for honest reporting. His own lawyer said so.
Isn’t that a pretty slippery slope? Is anything Tucker reports not true? In this instance, he actually has witnesses to corroborate the documents. Biden’s team actually requested that HIS laptop be returned. This witness has taped conversations and in his own words, lots of detailed documents.

While Biden’s dealings bring up the question of whether he is compromised with certain countries, what is really troubling is the lack of any attempt by the mainstream to cover this. Can you imagine if this was Donald Jr, Ivanka or Jared Kushner? This would be the lead story at every network. Just look at the coverage by the mainstream media of The Atlantic story where anonymous sources were used and lots of witnesses contested the story was not true. It still led every outlet. Another example was the “anonymous” Trump insider who posted an editorial On Trump in the New York Times. It was carried by every major news outlet despite being anonymous. Miles Taylor just admitted that he was the anonymous author and is now a regular on CNN. Ends up that Taylor was not a cabinet member as portrayed but a staff member to a department head, but all the mainstream media went after Trump. This is a huge problem right now.

Seriously, if the mainstream media went after Biden like they do Trump, would Biden have any chance at winning? The media that our country relies on for news is only interested in making one party look good, and one party look bad.
It is very sad, and scary that CNN and some other "mainstream" news avenues can get away with this. However... fortunately a LOT of American voters are smart and completely see through all of this. That's why Trump won last time and that's why voters that do their own research and don't let "news" outlets sway their views... will show up in mass numbers at the voting booth again. The scary part though is the influence this has on younger, or ignorant voters that believe what CNN is telling them.
So you want the news to chase every uncorroborated story that anyone ever brings up? That means that anyone can make a claim at any time and the media should cover it no matter how stupid it sounds. There are actually lots of stories that are corroborated that don't get covered, but we're supposed to believe that the "mainstream" networks are supposed to pretend that something that doesn't have any legs is what they should be spending time on.

It isn't whether or not Bobulinski is making this up or not, it's that he doesn't have any solid evidence to make it news.

The MSM isn't saying it isn't true either. They just don't know, like everyone, so they're not saying anything until there is evidence one way or the other. If anything that sounds wise. That's what everyone should do. Bobulinski got cut out of a deal by Hunter Biden, which makes Bobulinski a sketchy witness at best.

This sums up Bobulinski's story. It was true 7 days ago and it's true now. His story hasn't progressed since then.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html
So please answer this on the two following examples. Why did the mainstream media run leads (And multiple follow up stories) on the Atlantic story and the anonymous Washington Times opinion piece? The only reason I can see is that they are critical of Trump.
The Atlantic story was corroborated by four people. If four people came to the media with the same story about Biden, then it'd get some traction.
Remember the Swift Boat story? It had a bunch of people knocking John Kerry, so the real media did cover it even though it turned to be a questionable story.

You'll need to refresh my memory on the anonymous Washington Times opinion piece. Did you mean NY Times (Miles Taylor) or something in the WaPo?
Yes, the anonymous Miles Taylor post. And the Atlantic story has 20+

And the Biden laptop has been verified by multiple people. They also have Biden advisors on tape discussing it. They have Hunter Biden’s signature for the laptop. They have email recipients saying it is legitimate. The Biden attorneys requested the laptop back. And the Biden team has not denied that the laptop is Hunters. Joe Biden claimed it was Russian disinformation when the FBI and DOJ have said that it is not Russian disinformation.



https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/majo ... l-records-
Johnson, Grassley Use Secret Service Records to Verify Content from Alleged Hunter Biden Laptop, Request More Travel Records
Joe Biden was wrong. So was Adam Schiff. Not Russian disinformation.


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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:27 pm

It seems the American public wants to hear more about the Hunter Biden laptop.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-ca ... on-viewers
“Tucker Carlson Tonight” averaged a whopping 7.6 million viewers on Tuesday for its exclusive interview with Tony Bobulinski, proving Americans are interested in the ongoing scandal despite other news organizations dismissing it.

Carlson’s interview with Bobulinski topped the heavily promoted season premiere of NBC’s “This Is Us” to finish as the No. 3 program in all of television on Tuesday, finishing behind only FOX’s World Series Game 6 and NBC’s “The Voice.” 

“It is pretty much a 100 percent blackout of the Bobulinski story in the traditional media. Of course, there are lots of stories that need to be covered in the busy 2020 news agenda, but the total omission of Bobulinski's accusations is curious, to say the least,” DePauw University professor and media critic Jeffrey McCall told Fox News. 

“Even if this story is not front and center on the news agenda, it does need to be approached somewhere along the way. Odds are that most mainstream media outlets are devoting very few reporting resources, if any, to the Bobulinski story,” McCall added. “It would seem those outlets could at least be investigating the accusations to try to prove them invalid.”



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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by Cledus » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:17 am

Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:27 pm
It seems the American public wants to hear more about the Hunter Biden laptop.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-ca ... on-viewers
“Tucker Carlson Tonight” averaged a whopping 7.6 million viewers on Tuesday for its exclusive interview with Tony Bobulinski, proving Americans are interested in the ongoing scandal despite other news organizations dismissing it.

Carlson’s interview with Bobulinski topped the heavily promoted season premiere of NBC’s “This Is Us” to finish as the No. 3 program in all of television on Tuesday, finishing behind only FOX’s World Series Game 6 and NBC’s “The Voice.” 

“It is pretty much a 100 percent blackout of the Bobulinski story in the traditional media. Of course, there are lots of stories that need to be covered in the busy 2020 news agenda, but the total omission of Bobulinski's accusations is curious, to say the least,” DePauw University professor and media critic Jeffrey McCall told Fox News. 

“Even if this story is not front and center on the news agenda, it does need to be approached somewhere along the way. Odds are that most mainstream media outlets are devoting very few reporting resources, if any, to the Bobulinski story,” McCall added. “It would seem those outlets could at least be investigating the accusations to try to prove them invalid.”
Here is the link to the dump of contents from Hunter’s computer. Lots of otherwise NSFW images, but all the naughty bits are blurred out.
https://gtv.org/web/#/VideoPlay_UI

Hunter, being the genius he is (apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and all), made a pornhub account that still hasn’t been taken down. Obviously, very NSFW. You’ll recognize at least one picture from the laptop dump.
pornhub.com/users/rheast


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Post by TomCat88 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:03 am

Tucker et al should use Box or Zip. Packaging up a flash drive with important information and shipping it in this day and age is not smart. Also doesn’t sound like he made a backup.


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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by Cataholic » Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:32 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:03 am
Tucker et al should use Box or Zip. Packaging up a flash drive with important information and shipping it in this day and age is not smart. Also doesn’t sound like he made a backup.
They actually did have a backup. Here is an interesting article from Tucker’s show. You are right though. And with all the documents being electronic, there is little reason to not use Dropbox or email. I am sure a large media company like Fox has ways to move large files.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker- ... nter-biden



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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by The Butcher » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:53 am

The document, a 64-page composition that was later disseminated by close associates of President Donald Trump, appears to be the work of a fake "intelligence firm" called Typhoon Investigations.

The author of the document, a self-identified Swiss security analyst named Martin Aspen, is a fabricated identity, according to analysis by disinformation researchers, who also concluded that Aspen's profile picture was created with an artificial intelligence face generator. The intelligence firm that Aspen lists as his previous employer said that no one by that name had ever worked for the company and that no one by that name lives in Switzerland, according to public records and social media searches.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/h ... e-n1245387



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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by Cataholic » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:16 am

The Butcher wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:53 am
The document, a 64-page composition that was later disseminated by close associates of President Donald Trump, appears to be the work of a fake "intelligence firm" called Typhoon Investigations.

The author of the document, a self-identified Swiss security analyst named Martin Aspen, is a fabricated identity, according to analysis by disinformation researchers, who also concluded that Aspen's profile picture was created with an artificial intelligence face generator. The intelligence firm that Aspen lists as his previous employer said that no one by that name had ever worked for the company and that no one by that name lives in Switzerland, according to public records and social media searches.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/h ... e-n1245387
This document reminds me a lot of the Steele Dossier paid for Hillary Clinton and used to obtain warrants to spy on Trump. I also see that it was released back in August and never really caught on with anybody. This is the first I have ever heard about it.

This also has nothing to do with the current Hunter information on his laptop and business dealings. They are completely unrelated.



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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by RickRund » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:57 pm

Now really who are we to believe. That treacherous Bobulinski, a total neer-do-well or Hunter Biden, successful Naval career, successful business man, faithful family man.



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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by The Butcher » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:08 am

RickRund wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:57 pm
Now really who are we to believe. That treacherous Bobulinski, a total neer-do-well or Hunter Biden, successful Naval career, successful business man, faithful family man.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
But you believe Trump over Biden!



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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by iaafan » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:14 am

Weird! We haven't heard about this since Election Day. :roll:



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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by BigBruceBaker » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:50 am

iaafan wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:14 am
Weird! We haven't heard about this since Election Day. :roll:
Definitely strange. I see the Twitter CEO Dorsey told the senate committee they shouldn't have deleted it or withheld it. Besides that, crickets. Which if its a huge story, definitely shouldn't go away.


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Re: Joe, Hunter, and the Hard Drive

Post by The Butcher » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:32 am

Well the Hunter Biden thing seems to have no real proof.

It will be interesting to see if there is any proof to the Trump tax fraud case. The New York Times has a little better track record than the New York Post on journalistic reporting, so this could be a REAL story this time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/nyre ... taxes.html



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