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Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:29 pm
by RickRund
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:44 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:10 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:34 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:24 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:53 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:16 am
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:08 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:00 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:27 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:25 pm


Probably a conspiracy from the CONSTITUTION...
I’ll go out on a limb here and predict you’re working with faulty information. You’re certainly welcome to prove me wrong.
How about natural born citizen!
....Yeah? ....And?

I believe she was born in California.
Takes more than that... Her parents were not citizens.
No, it doesn't.
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:9205550851
Oh great, now we are falling back on facelessbook truth detectors. The CONSTITUTION states 35 years old, 14 years of residency in the US and a naturalized citizen, both parents to be citizens (neither parent was a citizen).But the "interpretation" has been changed to meet the needs of some. Nikki Haley also falls into this. I am not just picking on your candidate. To me it is common core Constitution...
https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroomm ... %20running.

I'm not seeing where the constitution says "both parents to be citizens." Please send a link from a legit source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_T ... for_office
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

a natural born citizen (or they became a citizen before September 17, 1787)
at least 35 years old
an inhabitant of the United States for at least fourteen years.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Neither of her parents were citizens.
Where in the constitution does it say that one or both of her parents must be a citizen?

I'll wait.......
https://powderedwigsociety.com/kamala-harris-2020/

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:35 pm
by wbtfg
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:29 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:44 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:10 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:34 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:24 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:53 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:16 am
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:08 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:00 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:27 pm


I’ll go out on a limb here and predict you’re working with faulty information. You’re certainly welcome to prove me wrong.
How about natural born citizen!
....Yeah? ....And?

I believe she was born in California.
Takes more than that... Her parents were not citizens.
No, it doesn't.
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:9205550851
Oh great, now we are falling back on facelessbook truth detectors. The CONSTITUTION states 35 years old, 14 years of residency in the US and a naturalized citizen, both parents to be citizens (neither parent was a citizen).But the "interpretation" has been changed to meet the needs of some. Nikki Haley also falls into this. I am not just picking on your candidate. To me it is common core Constitution...
https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroomm ... %20running.

I'm not seeing where the constitution says "both parents to be citizens." Please send a link from a legit source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_T ... for_office
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

a natural born citizen (or they became a citizen before September 17, 1787)
at least 35 years old
an inhabitant of the United States for at least fourteen years.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Neither of her parents were citizens.
Where in the constitution does it say that one or both of her parents must be a citizen?

I'll wait.......
https://powderedwigsociety.com/kamala-harris-2020/
This website is labeled as a “extreme far right, propaganda, fake news” site.

But I mean, if you choose to believe sites like that over the actual text from the constitution, I guess there’s nothing I can do about that. Godspeed.

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:54 pm
by hokeyfine
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:35 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:29 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:44 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:10 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:34 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:24 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:53 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:16 am
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:08 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:00 pm
How about natural born citizen!
....Yeah? ....And?

I believe she was born in California.
Takes more than that... Her parents were not citizens.
No, it doesn't.
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:9205550851
Oh great, now we are falling back on facelessbook truth detectors. The CONSTITUTION states 35 years old, 14 years of residency in the US and a naturalized citizen, both parents to be citizens (neither parent was a citizen).But the "interpretation" has been changed to meet the needs of some. Nikki Haley also falls into this. I am not just picking on your candidate. To me it is common core Constitution...
https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroomm ... %20running.

I'm not seeing where the constitution says "both parents to be citizens." Please send a link from a legit source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_T ... for_office
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

a natural born citizen (or they became a citizen before September 17, 1787)
at least 35 years old
an inhabitant of the United States for at least fourteen years.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Neither of her parents were citizens.
Where in the constitution does it say that one or both of her parents must be a citizen?

I'll wait.......
https://powderedwigsociety.com/kamala-harris-2020/
This website is labeled as a “extreme far right, propaganda, fake news” site.

But I mean, if you choose to believe sites like that over the actual text from the constitution, I guess there’s nothing I can do about that. Godspeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-b ... %20soil%22.

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:01 pm
by ilovethecats
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:35 pm
Godspeed.
:lol:

Always love godspeed.

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:36 pm
by RickRund
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:35 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:29 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:44 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:10 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:34 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:24 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:53 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:16 am
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:08 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:00 pm


How about natural born citizen!
....Yeah? ....And?

I believe she was born in California.
Takes more than that... Her parents were not citizens.
No, it doesn't.
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:9205550851
Oh great, now we are falling back on facelessbook truth detectors. The CONSTITUTION states 35 years old, 14 years of residency in the US and a naturalized citizen, both parents to be citizens (neither parent was a citizen).But the "interpretation" has been changed to meet the needs of some. Nikki Haley also falls into this. I am not just picking on your candidate. To me it is common core Constitution...
https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroomm ... %20running.

I'm not seeing where the constitution says "both parents to be citizens." Please send a link from a legit source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_T ... for_office
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

a natural born citizen (or they became a citizen before September 17, 1787)
at least 35 years old
an inhabitant of the United States for at least fourteen years.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Neither of her parents were citizens.
Where in the constitution does it say that one or both of her parents must be a citizen?

I'll wait.......
https://powderedwigsociety.com/kamala-harris-2020/
This website is labeled as a “extreme far right, propaganda, fake news” site.

But I mean, if you choose to believe sites like that over the actual text from the constitution, I guess there’s nothing I can do about that. Godspeed.
Figured that one would get your attention. Now if it had been cnn, npr, etc it would have bee fully accepted...

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:41 pm
by wbtfg
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:36 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:35 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:29 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:44 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:10 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:34 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:24 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:53 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:16 am
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:08 pm


....Yeah? ....And?

I believe she was born in California.
Takes more than that... Her parents were not citizens.
No, it doesn't.
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:9205550851
Oh great, now we are falling back on facelessbook truth detectors. The CONSTITUTION states 35 years old, 14 years of residency in the US and a naturalized citizen, both parents to be citizens (neither parent was a citizen).But the "interpretation" has been changed to meet the needs of some. Nikki Haley also falls into this. I am not just picking on your candidate. To me it is common core Constitution...
https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroomm ... %20running.

I'm not seeing where the constitution says "both parents to be citizens." Please send a link from a legit source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_T ... for_office
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

a natural born citizen (or they became a citizen before September 17, 1787)
at least 35 years old
an inhabitant of the United States for at least fourteen years.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Neither of her parents were citizens.
Where in the constitution does it say that one or both of her parents must be a citizen?

I'll wait.......
https://powderedwigsociety.com/kamala-harris-2020/
This website is labeled as a “extreme far right, propaganda, fake news” site.

But I mean, if you choose to believe sites like that over the actual text from the constitution, I guess there’s nothing I can do about that. Godspeed.
Figured that one would get your attention. Now if it had been cnn, npr, etc it would have bee fully accepted...
I’d prefer to work with primary documents like, you know, The Constitution.

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:47 pm
by ghobs95
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:36 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:35 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:29 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:44 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:10 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:34 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:24 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:53 am
RickRund wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:16 am
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:08 pm


....Yeah? ....And?

I believe she was born in California.
Takes more than that... Her parents were not citizens.
No, it doesn't.
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:9205550851
Oh great, now we are falling back on facelessbook truth detectors. The CONSTITUTION states 35 years old, 14 years of residency in the US and a naturalized citizen, both parents to be citizens (neither parent was a citizen).But the "interpretation" has been changed to meet the needs of some. Nikki Haley also falls into this. I am not just picking on your candidate. To me it is common core Constitution...
https://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroomm ... %20running.

I'm not seeing where the constitution says "both parents to be citizens." Please send a link from a legit source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_T ... for_office
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

a natural born citizen (or they became a citizen before September 17, 1787)
at least 35 years old
an inhabitant of the United States for at least fourteen years.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Neither of her parents were citizens.
Where in the constitution does it say that one or both of her parents must be a citizen?

I'll wait.......
https://powderedwigsociety.com/kamala-harris-2020/
This website is labeled as a “extreme far right, propaganda, fake news” site.

But I mean, if you choose to believe sites like that over the actual text from the constitution, I guess there’s nothing I can do about that. Godspeed.
Figured that one would get your attention. Now if it had been cnn, npr, etc it would have bee fully accepted...
The phrase "natural-born citizen" appears in the U.S. Constitution. In order to become the President or Vice President of the United States, a person must be a natural-born citizen. This "Natural-Born Citizen Clause" is located in Section 1 of Article 2 of the United States Constitution.

The constitution does not expressly define “natural born” nor has the Supreme Court ever ruled precisely upon its meaning. One can be a citizen while not being a "natural born" citizen if, for example, that person gained citizenship through the process of naturalization.

Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This type of citizenship is referred to as birthright citizenship.

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:49 pm
by ghobs95
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen

And the source, in case somehow Cornell's open-access law library is "fake news"

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:49 pm
by ilovethecats
Do you guys ever just look at our two choices this fall and shake your head? They're both morons. Frankly I'm a little worried that people can be so supportive of either one over the other. That might scare me more than the candidates themselves.

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:03 pm
by wbtfg
ghobs95 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:49 pm
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen

And the source, in case somehow Cornell's open-access law library is "fake news"
Citing the Cornell Law Library is also acceptable.

Conspiracy theory, propaganda websites are not acceptable citations.

I really can't believe I actually typed that sentence...what a time to be alive!

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:41 pm
by ghobs95
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:03 pm
ghobs95 wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:49 pm
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen

And the source, in case somehow Cornell's open-access law library is "fake news"
Citing the Cornell Law Library is also acceptable.

Conspiracy theory, propaganda websites are not acceptable citations.

I really can't believe I actually typed that sentence...what a time to be alive!
I have a little (or a lot) less life experience than most here I'm sure, but it continues to astound me every day how seemingly intelligent people have apparently wiped any critical thinking skills from their memories.

I'm very curious to see where we go from here, and how it's looked back on in the future. Essentially my entire "adult" life has been After Trump, and I guess this is what it feels like to be living through that history.

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:45 pm
by The Butcher
You know Trump’s mom was born in Scotland. 😂😂😂

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:36 pm
by Darth Yoda
I'm just as amazed now as I was 4 years ago: the shiny object technique to control and dictate the public narrative still works very well. Think about the number of people and news stations talking about if Harris is eligible to be VP. It was literally asked at Trump's presser today, and he said he didn't know if she is eligible or not, but heard she isn't. He was surprised the Democrats would, possibly, make such a huge mistake.

This is near perfect example of the shiny object technique and it's truly incredible to watch.

Re: A few of us have said we are sorry for biden

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:43 pm
by ilovethecats
Darth Yoda wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:36 pm
I'm just as amazed now as I was 4 years ago: the shiny object technique to control and dictate the public narrative still works very well. Think about the number of people and news stations talking about if Harris is eligible to be VP. It was literally asked at Trump's presser today, and he said he didn't know if she is eligible or not, but heard she isn't. He was surprised the Democrats would, possibly, make such a huge mistake.

This is near perfect example of the shiny object technique and it's truly incredible to watch.
And shockingly embarrassing.