GOP Hypocrisy Strikes Again

[Cataholic]

Maybe because there is a huge gap between the $1.9 trillion total and the $350 billion directly paid to individuals? Maybe we need to cut off Washington’s addiction to debt? Maybe the bill went way past the parameters of Covid-19 relief? Maybe it is all our representative’s duty to ensure that we are represented? Some of us believe in fiscal responsibility, whether it is our children’s birthday party or our national debt. Why continue to cut-n-paste this one-sided, emotional propaganda without any consideration for the facts?

For example, to name a few details off the top of my head:

American Rescue Plan $1.9 Trillion
Direct Payments to Individuals $300 Billion

Difference $1.6 Trillion

Huh?

Oh! Here’s a portion of it:

State and Local Gov’t Bailouts $350 Billion
Obamacare Expansion $ 45 Billion
Amtrak $ 2 Billion
15 weeks Leave for Federal employees $570 Million
National Endow for Arts/Humanities $470 Million
PBS $175 Million

Were you aware of this, and do you agree with this type of spending for “Covid-19 Relief”?

There is a LOT of stuff, non COVID related buried in there. One example, forgiving minority farmers' farm loan debts. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for making things right if someone was discriminated against, had to pay higher loan rates, etc. But to do a blanket deal like this seems unfair to a poor white neighbor farmer that still has to pay off his loan.

100% correct. It is another example of the woke Biden admin and Democrats pushing through their liberal agendas. And there is no rationale for it to be in the Covid bill.

And to approximately 2.6m illegals goes approximately $4.4b in covid relief...

Wow. That is more than the state of Montana is getting.

[TomCat88]

Maybe because there is a huge gap between the $1.9 trillion total and the $350 billion directly paid to individuals? Maybe we need to cut off Washington’s addiction to debt? Maybe the bill went way past the parameters of Covid-19 relief? Maybe it is all our representative’s duty to ensure that we are represented? Some of us believe in fiscal responsibility, whether it is our children’s birthday party or our national debt. Why continue to cut-n-paste this one-sided, emotional propaganda without any consideration for the facts?

For example, to name a few details off the top of my head:

American Rescue Plan $1.9 Trillion
Direct Payments to Individuals $300 Billion

Difference $1.6 Trillion

Huh?

Oh! Here’s a portion of it:

State and Local Gov’t Bailouts $350 Billion
Obamacare Expansion $ 45 Billion
Amtrak $ 2 Billion
15 weeks Leave for Federal employees $570 Million
National Endow for Arts/Humanities $470 Million
PBS $175 Million

Were you aware of this, and do you agree with this type of spending for “Covid-19 Relief”?

There is a LOT of stuff, non COVID related buried in there. One example, forgiving minority farmers' farm loan debts. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for making things right if someone was discriminated against, had to pay higher loan rates, etc. But to do a blanket deal like this seems unfair to a poor white neighbor farmer that still has to pay off his loan.

100% correct. It is another example of the woke Biden admin and Democrats pushing through their liberal agendas. And there is no rationale for it to be in the Covid bill.

And to approximately 2.6m illegals goes approximately $4.4b in covid relief...

Wow. That is more than the state of Montana is getting.

How much is the state of Montana getting?

Just looked it up:
Analysts expect the state to see at least $2.7 billion on top of $1,400 individual stimulus payments. 1.08 million Montanans.

So you’re correct that Montana is getting less, but Montanans (per capita) are getting more.

[Cataholic]

Maybe because there is a huge gap between the $1.9 trillion total and the $350 billion directly paid to individuals? Maybe we need to cut off Washington’s addiction to debt? Maybe the bill went way past the parameters of Covid-19 relief? Maybe it is all our representative’s duty to ensure that we are represented? Some of us believe in fiscal responsibility, whether it is our children’s birthday party or our national debt. Why continue to cut-n-paste this one-sided, emotional propaganda without any consideration for the facts?

For example, to name a few details off the top of my head:

American Rescue Plan $1.9 Trillion
Direct Payments to Individuals $300 Billion

Difference $1.6 Trillion

Huh?

Oh! Here’s a portion of it:

State and Local Gov’t Bailouts $350 Billion
Obamacare Expansion $ 45 Billion
Amtrak $ 2 Billion
15 weeks Leave for Federal employees $570 Million
National Endow for Arts/Humanities $470 Million
PBS $175 Million

Were you aware of this, and do you agree with this type of spending for “Covid-19 Relief”?

There is a LOT of stuff, non COVID related buried in there. One example, forgiving minority farmers' farm loan debts. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for making things right if someone was discriminated against, had to pay higher loan rates, etc. But to do a blanket deal like this seems unfair to a poor white neighbor farmer that still has to pay off his loan.

100% correct. It is another example of the woke Biden admin and Democrats pushing through their liberal agendas. And there is no rationale for it to be in the Covid bill.

And to approximately 2.6m illegals goes approximately $4.4b in covid relief...

Wow. That is more than the state of Montana is getting.

How much is the state of Montana getting?

Just looked it up:
Analysts expect the state to see at least $2.7 billion on top of $1,400 individual stimulus payments. 1.08 million Montanans.

So you’re correct that Montana is getting less, but Montanans (per capita) are getting more.

And Montanans pay taxes. We are citizens of this country and pay taxes in preparation for events like this. Shouldn’t we be a higher priority before people who are in this country illegally? We have this huge Covid issue, millions unemployed or hurting financially due to Covid, and Biden is fixated on the border? At a minimum, get the country healthy and then worker on border issues. What he has created at the border is an absolute disaster.

[RickRund]

Maybe because there is a huge gap between the $1.9 trillion total and the $350 billion directly paid to individuals? Maybe we need to cut off Washington’s addiction to debt? Maybe the bill went way past the parameters of Covid-19 relief? Maybe it is all our representative’s duty to ensure that we are represented? Some of us believe in fiscal responsibility, whether it is our children’s birthday party or our national debt. Why continue to cut-n-paste this one-sided, emotional propaganda without any consideration for the facts?

For example, to name a few details off the top of my head:

American Rescue Plan $1.9 Trillion
Direct Payments to Individuals $300 Billion

Difference $1.6 Trillion

Huh?

Oh! Here’s a portion of it:

State and Local Gov’t Bailouts $350 Billion
Obamacare Expansion $ 45 Billion
Amtrak $ 2 Billion
15 weeks Leave for Federal employees $570 Million
National Endow for Arts/Humanities $470 Million
PBS $175 Million

Were you aware of this, and do you agree with this type of spending for “Covid-19 Relief”?

There is a LOT of stuff, non COVID related buried in there. One example, forgiving minority farmers' farm loan debts. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for making things right if someone was discriminated against, had to pay higher loan rates, etc. But to do a blanket deal like this seems unfair to a poor white neighbor farmer that still has to pay off his loan.

100% correct. It is another example of the woke Biden admin and Democrats pushing through their liberal agendas. And there is no rationale for it to be in the Covid bill.

And to approximately 2.6m illegals goes approximately $4.4b in covid relief...

Wow. That is more than the state of Montana is getting.

How much is the state of Montana getting?

Just looked it up:
Analysts expect the state to see at least $2.7 billion on top of $1,400 individual stimulus payments. 1.08 million Montanans.

So you’re correct that Montana is getting less, but Montanans (per capita) are getting more.

Montana residents should get more because if you are illegal you should receive nothing.... Until you complete the process and begin paying into the system.

[The Butcher]

Another GOPer touting the COVID relief bill he voted against. Must be nice to have your cake and eat it too!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsole ... c8d9c0503d

[Cataholic]

Another GOPer touting the COVID relief bill he voted against. Must be nice to have your cake and eat it too!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsole ... c8d9c0503d

Gotcha! He voted against the package because it had too much non-Covid relief items... now you claim that he is not entitled to the actual Covid relief funds since he didn’t support the whole bill... hmmm....

[catatac]

Another GOPer touting the COVID relief bill he voted against. Must be nice to have your cake and eat it too!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsole ... c8d9c0503d

Gotcha! He voted against the package because it had too much non-Covid relief items... now you claim that he is not entitled to the actual Covid relief funds since he didn’t support the whole bill... hmmm....

Ya, it's surprising to me how many people just don't understand that the reason some voted against it was because of all the dollars they crammed in there to push the democratic\liberal agendas.

[iaafan]

Another GOPer touting the COVID relief bill he voted against. Must be nice to have your cake and eat it too!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsole ... c8d9c0503d

Gotcha! He voted against the package because it had too much non-Covid relief items... now you claim that he is not entitled to the actual Covid relief funds since he didn’t support the whole bill... hmmm....

Ya, it's surprising to me how many people just don't understand that the reason some voted against it was because of all the dollars they crammed in there to push the democratic\liberal agendas.

It’s surprising to me how many people are okay with it when their party does the same thing, then complain when the other party does it.

[RickRund]

Yes, the "R's" were mostly for the relief package but the mostly 80ish% of the garbage, or more, was the problem.

This new $2.5ishT, give or take, will supply about $625b to actual infrastructure work.

And what about the $1T of unspent stimulus monies from the previous package.

And now the next complete pile of feces they are pushing...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infrastr ... 1eed04e2a6

[catatac]

Yes, the "R's" were mostly for the relief package but the mostly 80ish% of the garbage, or more, was the problem.

This new $2.5ishT, give or take, will supply about $625b to actual infrastructure work.

And what about the $1T of unspent stimulus monies from the previous package.

And now the next complete pile of feces they are pushing...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infrastr ... 1eed04e2a6

Why only ten trillion? It's a serious question. If this is a good idea and we don't care about long term impacts if this kind of spending, why not do twenty trillion, or hell, let's go fifty trillion? That would make us even greener, and create millions of additional jobs? I'd like someone to take a stab at answering that question, preferably someone that is all for this kind of spending.

[TomCat88]

Yes, the "R's" were mostly for the relief package but the mostly 80ish% of the garbage, or more, was the problem.

This new $2.5ishT, give or take, will supply about $625b to actual infrastructure work.

And what about the $1T of unspent stimulus monies from the previous package.

And now the next complete pile of feces they are pushing...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infrastr ... 1eed04e2a6

It’s spread out over eight years. It also addresses climate change. It isn’t as big as Eisenhower’s interstate highway project, which is a great investment. Probably not as grand as Lincoln’s transcontinental railway project or Kennedy’s space program. Mostly just bandages for existing infrastructure. Not sure if high speed rail is in it.

Hopefully there’s something in it to control overpopulation. That’d fix most of our problems.

[BigBruceBaker]

Yes, the "R's" were mostly for the relief package but the mostly 80ish% of the garbage, or more, was the problem.

This new $2.5ishT, give or take, will supply about $625b to actual infrastructure work.

And what about the $1T of unspent stimulus monies from the previous package.

And now the next complete pile of feces they are pushing...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infrastr ... 1eed04e2a6

It’s spread out over eight years. It also addresses climate change. It isn’t as big as Eisenhower’s interstate highway project, which is a great investment. Probably not as grand as Lincoln’s transcontinental railway project or Kennedy’s space program. Mostly just bandages for existing infrastructure. Not sure if high speed rail is in it.

Hopefully there’s something in it to control overpopulation. That’d fix most of our problems.

I think China figured that out quite a few years back. Seems like that could be in the table?

[Cataholic]

Yes, the "R's" were mostly for the relief package but the mostly 80ish% of the garbage, or more, was the problem.

This new $2.5ishT, give or take, will supply about $625b to actual infrastructure work.

And what about the $1T of unspent stimulus monies from the previous package.

And now the next complete pile of feces they are pushing...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infrastr ... 1eed04e2a6

It’s spread out over eight years. It also addresses climate change. It isn’t as big as Eisenhower’s interstate highway project, which is a great investment. Probably not as grand as Lincoln’s transcontinental railway project or Kennedy’s space program. Mostly just bandages for existing infrastructure. Not sure if high speed rail is in it.

Hopefully there’s something in it to control overpopulation. That’d fix most of our problems.

Were you one of the guys that complained about the deficit spending by Trump? Now you are okay with all this spending by Biden? Cmon man!

And comparing the govt investment in green energy to our interstate highways and transcontinental railroads or Kennedy’s space program is laughable. Do you recall Solyndra? How many other billions of dollars were wasted by the govt on tech that was not ready?

[Cataholic]

Another GOPer touting the COVID relief bill he voted against. Must be nice to have your cake and eat it too!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsole ... c8d9c0503d

Gotcha! He voted against the package because it had too much non-Covid relief items... now you claim that he is not entitled to the actual Covid relief funds since he didn’t support the whole bill... hmmm....

Ya, it's surprising to me how many people just don't understand that the reason some voted against it was because of all the dollars they crammed in there to push the democratic\liberal agendas.

It’s surprising to me how many people are okay with it when their party does the same thing, then complain when the other party does it.

Please provide an example.

[RickRund]

Yes, the "R's" were mostly for the relief package but the mostly 80ish% of the garbage, or more, was the problem.

This new $2.5ishT, give or take, will supply about $625b to actual infrastructure work.

And what about the $1T of unspent stimulus monies from the previous package.

And now the next complete pile of feces they are pushing...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infrastr ... 1eed04e2a6

It’s spread out over eight years. It also addresses climate change. It isn’t as big as Eisenhower’s interstate highway project, which is a great investment. Probably not as grand as Lincoln’s transcontinental railway project or Kennedy’s space program. Mostly just bandages for existing infrastructure. Not sure if high speed rail is in it.

Hopefully there’s something in it to control overpopulation. That’d fix most of our problems.

If it was just for infrastructure. There is supposedly 80% non-infrastructure spending.

And I DO NOT like any idea of population control. I need to know your explanation of what you mean "population control".

[TomCat88]

Yes, the "R's" were mostly for the relief package but the mostly 80ish% of the garbage, or more, was the problem.

This new $2.5ishT, give or take, will supply about $625b to actual infrastructure work.

And what about the $1T of unspent stimulus monies from the previous package.

And now the next complete pile of feces they are pushing...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infrastr ... 1eed04e2a6

It’s spread out over eight years. It also addresses climate change. It isn’t as big as Eisenhower’s interstate highway project, which is a great investment. Probably not as grand as Lincoln’s transcontinental railway project or Kennedy’s space program. Mostly just bandages for existing infrastructure. Not sure if high speed rail is in it.

Hopefully there’s something in it to control overpopulation. That’d fix most of our problems.

If it was just for infrastructure. There is supposedly 80% non-infrastructure spending.

And I DO NOT like any idea of population control. I need to know your explanation of what you mean "population control".

You’re right. It’s not for infrastructure. Even governor Noem says so.

[The Butcher]

Yes, the "R's" were mostly for the relief package but the mostly 80ish% of the garbage, or more, was the problem.

This new $2.5ishT, give or take, will supply about $625b to actual infrastructure work.

And what about the $1T of unspent stimulus monies from the previous package.

And now the next complete pile of feces they are pushing...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infrastr ... 1eed04e2a6

It’s spread out over eight years. It also addresses climate change. It isn’t as big as Eisenhower’s interstate highway project, which is a great investment. Probably not as grand as Lincoln’s transcontinental railway project or Kennedy’s space program. Mostly just bandages for existing infrastructure. Not sure if high speed rail is in it.

Hopefully there’s something in it to control overpopulation. That’d fix most of our problems.

If it was just for infrastructure. There is supposedly 80% non-infrastructure spending.

And I DO NOT like any idea of population control. I need to know your explanation of what you mean "population control".

You’re right. It’s not for infrastructure. Even governor Noem says so.

She is such an embarrassment. God help us in South Dakota.

[RickRund]

Yes, the "R's" were mostly for the relief package but the mostly 80ish% of the garbage, or more, was the problem.

This new $2.5ishT, give or take, will supply about $625b to actual infrastructure work.

And what about the $1T of unspent stimulus monies from the previous package.

And now the next complete pile of feces they are pushing...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infrastr ... 1eed04e2a6

It’s spread out over eight years. It also addresses climate change. It isn’t as big as Eisenhower’s interstate highway project, which is a great investment. Probably not as grand as Lincoln’s transcontinental railway project or Kennedy’s space program. Mostly just bandages for existing infrastructure. Not sure if high speed rail is in it.

Hopefully there’s something in it to control overpopulation. That’d fix most of our problems.

If it was just for infrastructure. There is supposedly 80% non-infrastructure spending.

And I DO NOT like any idea of population control. I need to know your explanation of what you mean "population control".

You’re right. It’s not for infrastructure. Even governor Noem says so.

She is such an embarrassment. God help us in South Dakota.

That is so true. If you had a different governor you could be like california, new york, new jersey, illinois.

[The Butcher]

Yes, the "R's" were mostly for the relief package but the mostly 80ish% of the garbage, or more, was the problem.

This new $2.5ishT, give or take, will supply about $625b to actual infrastructure work.

And what about the $1T of unspent stimulus monies from the previous package.

And now the next complete pile of feces they are pushing...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infrastr ... 1eed04e2a6

It’s spread out over eight years. It also addresses climate change. It isn’t as big as Eisenhower’s interstate highway project, which is a great investment. Probably not as grand as Lincoln’s transcontinental railway project or Kennedy’s space program. Mostly just bandages for existing infrastructure. Not sure if high speed rail is in it.

Hopefully there’s something in it to control overpopulation. That’d fix most of our problems.

If it was just for infrastructure. There is supposedly 80% non-infrastructure spending.

And I DO NOT like any idea of population control. I need to know your explanation of what you mean "population control".

You’re right. It’s not for infrastructure. Even governor Noem says so.

She is such an embarrassment. God help us in South Dakota.

That is so true. If you had a different governor you could be like california, new york, new jersey, illinois.

I suspect most governors know that "housing and pipes" are infrastructure.

[wbtfg]

So cancel culture is good? I can’t keep up....LOL