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Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by RickRund » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:51 am

100% of those tested that received the vaccine had their bodies create antibodies. Just saw this on FoxBusiness. Great news!!!



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Post by RickRund » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:03 am

Also Pfizer and Biontech have had successful tests...



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Post by wbtfg » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 am

RickRund wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:03 am
Also Pfizer and Biontech have had successful tests...
I think the place out of Hamilton has had great success as well and is ramping up their testing.



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Re: Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by RickRund » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:43 am

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 am
RickRund wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:03 am
Also Pfizer and Biontech have had successful tests...
I think the place out of Hamilton has had great success as well and is ramping up their testing.
Hamilton? What lab is that? Had no idea there was one there. Just searched and saw a Rocky Mountain Labs.



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Post by wapiti » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 am

Asthma medicine effective in treating Covid-19 patients.
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/ar ... id-19.html

I think this is what the rest of the world is doing. Those who hate Trump are preventing it here in the U.S.



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Post by wbtfg » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:46 am

RickRund wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:43 am
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 am
RickRund wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:03 am
Also Pfizer and Biontech have had successful tests...
I think the place out of Hamilton has had great success as well and is ramping up their testing.
Hamilton? What lab is that? Had no idea there was one there. Just searched and saw a Rocky Mountain Labs.
I believe The Hamilton lab is working on the Moderna vaccine.



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Re: Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by codecat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:43 am

wapiti wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 am
Asthma medicine effective in treating Covid-19 patients.
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/ar ... id-19.html

I think this is what the rest of the world is doing. Those who hate Trump are preventing it here in the U.S.
So true, and they have done their best to politicize science, especially within government agencies (who only stand to gain by growing government), in their 4th attempt to take down President Trump. Here is a new recent study put out early this month on Hydroxychloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 365090002/


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Re: Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by CatBlitz » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:09 pm

codecat wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:43 am
wapiti wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 am
Asthma medicine effective in treating Covid-19 patients.
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/ar ... id-19.html

I think this is what the rest of the world is doing. Those who hate Trump are preventing it here in the U.S.
So true, and they have done their best to politicize science, especially within government agencies (who only stand to gain by growing government), in their 4th attempt to take down President Trump. Here is a new recent study put out early this month on Hydroxychloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 365090002/
So you cite one study, yet that the very same article cites 14 (from what I read they're) applications where that drug DIDN'T work... But that doesn't fit the narrative.

Also, can either of you point me to where I can read more about how people who "hate Trump" are actively trying to prevent the asthma medicine? Genuinely curious.


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Post by CatBlitz » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:28 pm

Not sure if this is the same thing OP was talking about but this story on a potential vaccine from Oxford is promising. Fascinating science.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839


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Re: Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by Cataholic » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:35 pm

CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:09 pm
codecat wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:43 am
wapiti wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 am
Asthma medicine effective in treating Covid-19 patients.
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/ar ... id-19.html

I think this is what the rest of the world is doing. Those who hate Trump are preventing it here in the U.S.
So true, and they have done their best to politicize science, especially within government agencies (who only stand to gain by growing government), in their 4th attempt to take down President Trump. Here is a new recent study put out early this month on Hydroxychloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 365090002/
So you cite one study, yet that the very same article cites 14 (from what I read they're) applications where that drug DIDN'T work... But that doesn't fit the narrative.

Also, can either of you point me to where I can read more about how people who "hate Trump" are actively trying to prevent the asthma medicine? Genuinely curious.
What are you referring to with “14 applications where the drug didn’t work”? I don’t see anything in the article.



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Re: Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by RickRund » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:36 pm

CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:28 pm
Not sure if this is the same thing OP was talking about but this story on a potential vaccine from Oxford is promising. Fascinating science.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839
No, this is a different vaccine. Also looks very promising.
See, we may have a season yet.



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Re: Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by codecat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:50 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:35 pm
CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:09 pm
codecat wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:43 am
wapiti wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 am
Asthma medicine effective in treating Covid-19 patients.
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/ar ... id-19.html

I think this is what the rest of the world is doing. Those who hate Trump are preventing it here in the U.S.
So true, and they have done their best to politicize science, especially within government agencies (who only stand to gain by growing government), in their 4th attempt to take down President Trump. Here is a new recent study put out early this month on Hydroxychloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 365090002/
So you cite one study, yet that the very same article cites 14 (from what I read they're) applications where that drug DIDN'T work... But that doesn't fit the narrative.

Also, can either of you point me to where I can read more about how people who "hate Trump" are actively trying to prevent the asthma medicine? Genuinely curious.
What are you referring to with “14 applications where the drug didn’t work”? I don’t see anything in the article.
CatBlitz is having difficulty counting today as there was only two mentions of other studies in the article as follows:
Henry Ford Health has been working on multiple clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine, including one that is testing whether the drug can prevent COVID-19 infections in first responders who work with coronavirus patients. The first responder clinical trial was trumpeted by Trump administration officials early in the pandemic.
Many health care institutions, including the World Health Organization, suspended clinical trials of the drug touted by President Donald Trump after a faulty study was published in the British medical journal The Lancet on May 22. The WHO restarted the trials in June.
The rest of the mentions were hospitals suspending clinical trials as they did not see any significant results, but this article stated that this trial had a few other factors as follows:
“We attribute our findings that differ from other studies to early treatment, and part of a combination of interventions that were done in supportive care of patients, including careful cardiac monitoring," said Zervos, division head of infectious disease for the health system who conducted the study with epidemiologist Dr. Samia Arshad.

Other studies, Zervos noted, included different populations or were not peer-reviewed.

“Our dosing also differed from other studies not showing a benefit of the drug,” he said. "We also found that using steroids early in the infection associated with a reduction in mortality."

But Zervos cautioned against extrapolating the results for treatment outside hospital settings and without further study.


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Re: Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by Cataholic » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:13 pm

codecat wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:50 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:35 pm
CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:09 pm
codecat wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:43 am
wapiti wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 am
Asthma medicine effective in treating Covid-19 patients.
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/ar ... id-19.html

I think this is what the rest of the world is doing. Those who hate Trump are preventing it here in the U.S.
So true, and they have done their best to politicize science, especially within government agencies (who only stand to gain by growing government), in their 4th attempt to take down President Trump. Here is a new recent study put out early this month on Hydroxychloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 365090002/
So you cite one study, yet that the very same article cites 14 (from what I read they're) applications where that drug DIDN'T work... But that doesn't fit the narrative.

Also, can either of you point me to where I can read more about how people who "hate Trump" are actively trying to prevent the asthma medicine? Genuinely curious.
What are you referring to with “14 applications where the drug didn’t work”? I don’t see anything in the article.
CatBlitz is having difficulty counting today as there was only two mentions of other studies in the article as follows:
Henry Ford Health has been working on multiple clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine, including one that is testing whether the drug can prevent COVID-19 infections in first responders who work with coronavirus patients. The first responder clinical trial was trumpeted by Trump administration officials early in the pandemic.
Many health care institutions, including the World Health Organization, suspended clinical trials of the drug touted by President Donald Trump after a faulty study was published in the British medical journal The Lancet on May 22. The WHO restarted the trials in June.
The rest of the mentions were hospitals suspending clinical trials as they did not see any significant results, but this article stated that this trial had a few other factors as follows:
“We attribute our findings that differ from other studies to early treatment, and part of a combination of interventions that were done in supportive care of patients, including careful cardiac monitoring," said Zervos, division head of infectious disease for the health system who conducted the study with epidemiologist Dr. Samia Arshad.

Other studies, Zervos noted, included different populations or were not peer-reviewed.

“Our dosing also differed from other studies not showing a benefit of the drug,” he said. "We also found that using steroids early in the infection associated with a reduction in mortality."

But Zervos cautioned against extrapolating the results for treatment outside hospital settings and without further study.
So it wasn’t 14 like Catblitz mentioned. But then again, just like Catblitz also mentioned, it wouldn’t fit the narrative.



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Re: Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by CatBlitz » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:23 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:35 pm
CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:09 pm
codecat wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:43 am
wapiti wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 am
Asthma medicine effective in treating Covid-19 patients.
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/ar ... id-19.html

I think this is what the rest of the world is doing. Those who hate Trump are preventing it here in the U.S.
So true, and they have done their best to politicize science, especially within government agencies (who only stand to gain by growing government), in their 4th attempt to take down President Trump. Here is a new recent study put out early this month on Hydroxychloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 365090002/
So you cite one study, yet that the very same article cites 14 (from what I read they're) applications where that drug DIDN'T work... But that doesn't fit the narrative.

Also, can either of you point me to where I can read more about how people who "hate Trump" are actively trying to prevent the asthma medicine? Genuinely curious.
What are you referring to with “14 applications where the drug didn’t work”? I don’t see anything in the article.
"Doctors at Michigan Medicine, the University of Michigan's health system, remain steadfast in their decision not to use hydroxychloroquine on coronavirus patients, which they stopped using in mid-March after their own early tracking of the treatment found little benefit to patients with some serious side effects."

"Michigan's largest system of hospitals, Southfield-based Beaumont Health, also stopped using the decades-old anti-malarial drug as a coronavirus treatment after deciding it was ineffective.

St. Joseph Mercy health system has also backed away from the treatment. The system has St. Joseph hospitals in Ann Arbor, Chelsea, Howell, Livonia and Pontiac, as well as the Mercy Health hospitals in Grand Rapids, Muskegon and Shelby."

"A recent United Kingdom study evaluating hydroxychloroquine in hospitalized patients with coronavirus was stopped after preliminary analysis found it didn’t have any benefit. About 26% of patients in the trial using the drug died, compared with about 24% receiving the usual care, according to the Oxford University study."

I miscounted this morning but that's 8 cities, St. Joseph's Mercy, Michigan Medicine, and the Oxford study. Plenty there regardless. Just because you find one thing that supports your belief, it doesn't mean it's 100% correct. And I'm not saying that drug is 100% not the answer but there seems to be more evidence pointing to that to me.


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Re: Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by codecat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:24 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:13 pm
codecat wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:50 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:35 pm
CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:09 pm
codecat wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:43 am
wapiti wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 am
Asthma medicine effective in treating Covid-19 patients.
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/ar ... id-19.html

I think this is what the rest of the world is doing. Those who hate Trump are preventing it here in the U.S.
So true, and they have done their best to politicize science, especially within government agencies (who only stand to gain by growing government), in their 4th attempt to take down President Trump. Here is a new recent study put out early this month on Hydroxychloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 365090002/
So you cite one study, yet that the very same article cites 14 (from what I read they're) applications where that drug DIDN'T work... But that doesn't fit the narrative.

Also, can either of you point me to where I can read more about how people who "hate Trump" are actively trying to prevent the asthma medicine? Genuinely curious.
What are you referring to with “14 applications where the drug didn’t work”? I don’t see anything in the article.
CatBlitz is having difficulty counting today as there was only two mentions of other studies in the article as follows:
Henry Ford Health has been working on multiple clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine, including one that is testing whether the drug can prevent COVID-19 infections in first responders who work with coronavirus patients. The first responder clinical trial was trumpeted by Trump administration officials early in the pandemic.
Many health care institutions, including the World Health Organization, suspended clinical trials of the drug touted by President Donald Trump after a faulty study was published in the British medical journal The Lancet on May 22. The WHO restarted the trials in June.
The rest of the mentions were hospitals suspending clinical trials as they did not see any significant results, but this article stated that this trial had a few other factors as follows:
“We attribute our findings that differ from other studies to early treatment, and part of a combination of interventions that were done in supportive care of patients, including careful cardiac monitoring," said Zervos, division head of infectious disease for the health system who conducted the study with epidemiologist Dr. Samia Arshad.

Other studies, Zervos noted, included different populations or were not peer-reviewed.

“Our dosing also differed from other studies not showing a benefit of the drug,” he said. "We also found that using steroids early in the infection associated with a reduction in mortality."

But Zervos cautioned against extrapolating the results for treatment outside hospital settings and without further study.
So it wasn’t 14 like Catblitz mentioned. But then again, just like Catblitz also mentioned, it wouldn’t fit the narrative.
Exactly, they well know that when they point a finger at someone, that they have 3 pointing back at themselves, but also know that they can get away with it because they control the press so can control the narrative too!


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Post by codecat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:31 pm

CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:23 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:35 pm
CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:09 pm
codecat wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:43 am
wapiti wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 am
Asthma medicine effective in treating Covid-19 patients.
https://www.hospimedica.com/covid-19/ar ... id-19.html

I think this is what the rest of the world is doing. Those who hate Trump are preventing it here in the U.S.
So true, and they have done their best to politicize science, especially within government agencies (who only stand to gain by growing government), in their 4th attempt to take down President Trump. Here is a new recent study put out early this month on Hydroxychloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 365090002/
So you cite one study, yet that the very same article cites 14 (from what I read they're) applications where that drug DIDN'T work... But that doesn't fit the narrative.

Also, can either of you point me to where I can read more about how people who "hate Trump" are actively trying to prevent the asthma medicine? Genuinely curious.
What are you referring to with “14 applications where the drug didn’t work”? I don’t see anything in the article.
"Doctors at Michigan Medicine, the University of Michigan's health system, remain steadfast in their decision not to use hydroxychloroquine on coronavirus patients, which they stopped using in mid-March after their own early tracking of the treatment found little benefit to patients with some serious side effects."

"Michigan's largest system of hospitals, Southfield-based Beaumont Health, also stopped using the decades-old anti-malarial drug as a coronavirus treatment after deciding it was ineffective.

St. Joseph Mercy health system has also backed away from the treatment. The system has St. Joseph hospitals in Ann Arbor, Chelsea, Howell, Livonia and Pontiac, as well as the Mercy Health hospitals in Grand Rapids, Muskegon and Shelby."

"A recent United Kingdom study evaluating hydroxychloroquine in hospitalized patients with coronavirus was stopped after preliminary analysis found it didn’t have any benefit. About 26% of patients in the trial using the drug died, compared with about 24% receiving the usual care, according to the Oxford University study."

I miscounted this morning but that's 8 cities, St. Joseph's Mercy, Michigan Medicine, and the Oxford study. Plenty there regardless. Just because you find one thing that supports your belief, it doesn't mean it's 100% correct. And I'm not saying that drug is 100% not the answer but there seems to be more evidence pointing to that to me.
You just cited Clinical Trials - I cited 1 Study - there is a difference.


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Post by CatBlitz » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:46 pm

Ok here's 2:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 4020300064

My point is, we really don't know either way since it is so new but every time I see this argument, few people are willing to look around at other research. Be objective.


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Post by Cataholic » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:06 pm

CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:46 pm
Ok here's 2:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 4020300064

My point is, we really don't know either way since it is so new but every time I see this argument, few people are willing to look around at other research. Be objective.
Your telling everyone else to “Be Objective”? How objective have your posts been the last day or two?



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Post by CatBlitz » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:02 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:06 pm
CatBlitz wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:46 pm
Ok here's 2:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 4020300064

My point is, we really don't know either way since it is so new but every time I see this argument, few people are willing to look around at other research. Be objective.
Your telling everyone else to “Be Objective”? How objective have your posts been the last day or two?
Calm down. Go read some more science and if you want to talk about anything, sans party affiliation, come on back.

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Re: Astrazeneca has successful vaccine test

Post by RickRund » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:58 am

Pfizer and Moderna have begun the final stage testing. Here's hoping!!!



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