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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by RickRund » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:28 pm

Rioting, extreme violence, destruction IS NOT 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 30th Amendment. How far will people go to defend this garbage. Defending this garbage is a joke unless you really do support the antifa types of the world.



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by TomCat88 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:37 pm

https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases ... -adl-finds

Left wing extremists have a ways to go to catch their right wing counterparts. Not saying any kind of extremism is good, but we on the right need to get our own house in order first before we start criticizing anyone.


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by hokeyfine » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:43 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:37 pm
https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases ... -adl-finds

Left wing extremists have a ways to go to catch their right wing counterparts. Not saying any kind of extremism is good, but we on the right need to get our own house in order first before we start criticizing anyone.
Remember, according to the right, the ADL is left leaning so obviously the facts are distorted. The proud boys have done well for the right.



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by Cataholic » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:37 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:37 pm
https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases ... -adl-finds

Left wing extremists have a ways to go to catch their right wing counterparts. Not saying any kind of extremism is good, but we on the right need to get our own house in order first before we start criticizing anyone.
First of all, I don’t believe there are any right wing extremist like white supremicists on this board. I certainly don’t share any of their ideals and don’t consider them any part of a conservative movement.

As for the study above, did you look at any of the data? For example, one of the incidents was the assailant shot 4 relatives in a nursing home before killing himself. His inclusion for the count was that he belonged to a white supremacist group when he was in prison. There are other inclusions of domestic violence that are included in the tally. The inclusion of such incidents clearly is a stretch and clearly shows the intent if the study. Does this mean that any BLM, Antifa or Islamic member that commits a similar crime will be counted as a murder on the left?

And I really don’t understand the point you are trying to make. Is it “before we (the right) start to criticize the left, we need to control the far right (a group that virtually NOBODY supports)”? That seems like a real stretch especially since the 99.9% of the right is disgusted by the far right.



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by 91catAlum » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:46 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:37 pm
https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases ... -adl-finds

Left wing extremists have a ways to go to catch their right wing counterparts. Not saying any kind of extremism is good, but we on the right need to get our own house in order first before we start criticizing anyone.
I like that argument! "Your extremists are worse than our extremists!" 😆


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:47 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:46 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:37 pm
https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases ... -adl-finds

Left wing extremists have a ways to go to catch their right wing counterparts. Not saying any kind of extremism is good, but we on the right need to get our own house in order first before we start criticizing anyone.
I like that argument! "Your extremists are worse than our extremists!" 😆
It’s more like, I can’t complain to my neighbor about his loud music until I turn down my loud music.


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by codecat » Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:24 pm

iaafan wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:25 pm
iaafan wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:16 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:09 pm
And this is how it is going down in chicago. There is increased violence, attacks against Police in several cities. Not OK with me.....
A lot of it by extreme right groups posing as protesters. Incredibly sick.
Nazi and white supremacy groups getting Lone Wolf antagonists to do their dirty work. Tons of Timothy McVeigh types living their dream.
I don't know if that true or not, but either way, the way extreme left anti American (those that control the party), have topped that by officially creating and funding both terrorist groups of BLM and Antifa. Its cute how the left has a way of blaming the right for what they have a colored history of doing!


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by BigBruceBaker » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:49 pm

iaafan wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:26 am
Rich K wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:24 am
Great to see Americans exercising their second amendment rights. I know I don’t need to tell you that.
I’ve got law enforcement family members. I can’t believe anyone would think it’s ok to permanently blind someone for just doing their job.

This has crossed the threshold with me. ****** you. You disgust me.


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:06 pm

What kind of lasers are the protesters using?


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by iaafan » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:03 am

BigBruceBaker wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:49 pm
iaafan wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:26 am
Rich K wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:24 am
Great to see Americans exercising their second amendment rights. I know I don’t need to tell you that.
I’ve got law enforcement family members. I can’t believe anyone would think it’s ok to permanently blind someone for just doing their job.

This has crossed the threshold with me. ****** you. You disgust me.
It’s sarcasm. I have a brother, cousin and two uncles that are in law enforcement. Uncles are retired after 30+ years. One was shot. It’s terrible than anyone is getting injured in any of this.



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by BigBruceBaker » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:03 am

iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:03 am
BigBruceBaker wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:49 pm
iaafan wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:26 am
Rich K wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:24 am
Great to see Americans exercising their second amendment rights. I know I don’t need to tell you that.
I’ve got law enforcement family members. I can’t believe anyone would think it’s ok to permanently blind someone for just doing their job.

This has crossed the threshold with me. ****** you. You disgust me.
It’s sarcasm. I have a brother, cousin and two uncles that are in law enforcement. Uncles are retired after 30+ years. One was shot. It’s terrible than anyone is getting injured in any of this.
Glad to hear, it was a really poor attempt at sarcasm.

Regardless of how we feel about protests/looting/rioting (which is weirdly being lumped together by people) I think all rational people would agree that police being attacked is a poor choice by all involved. 99% of police officers are doing the job because they believe in helping the general public. Really sad situation our country is in at the moment.


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by iaafan » Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:22 pm

BigBruceBaker wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:03 am
iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:03 am
BigBruceBaker wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:49 pm
iaafan wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:26 am
Rich K wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:24 am
Great to see Americans exercising their second amendment rights. I know I don’t need to tell you that.
I’ve got law enforcement family members. I can’t believe anyone would think it’s ok to permanently blind someone for just doing their job.

This has crossed the threshold with me. ****** you. You disgust me.
It’s sarcasm. I have a brother, cousin and two uncles that are in law enforcement. Uncles are retired after 30+ years. One was shot. It’s terrible than anyone is getting injured in any of this.
Glad to hear, it was a really poor attempt at sarcasm.

Regardless of how we feel about protests/looting/rioting (which is weirdly being lumped together by people) I think all rational people would agree that police being attacked is a poor choice by all involved. 99% of police officers are doing the job because they believe in helping the general public. Really sad situation our country is in at the moment.
The right is trying to divert attention away from what the protests are about. If these were right wing protesters the right would be supporting them whilst hiding behind the second amendment. It’s what they do and have always done.

Maybe 99% do that, but within that 99% are people with other less savory reasons. Perhaps not your or my relatives, but I bet if you ask them they’ll give some other prominent reasons.



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by Cataholic » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:56 pm

iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:22 pm
BigBruceBaker wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:03 am
iaafan wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:03 am
BigBruceBaker wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:49 pm
iaafan wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:26 am
Rich K wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:24 am
Great to see Americans exercising their second amendment rights. I know I don’t need to tell you that.
I’ve got law enforcement family members. I can’t believe anyone would think it’s ok to permanently blind someone for just doing their job.

This has crossed the threshold with me. ****** you. You disgust me.
It’s sarcasm. I have a brother, cousin and two uncles that are in law enforcement. Uncles are retired after 30+ years. One was shot. It’s terrible than anyone is getting injured in any of this.
Glad to hear, it was a really poor attempt at sarcasm.

Regardless of how we feel about protests/looting/rioting (which is weirdly being lumped together by people) I think all rational people would agree that police being attacked is a poor choice by all involved. 99% of police officers are doing the job because they believe in helping the general public. Really sad situation our country is in at the moment.
The right is trying to divert attention away from what the protests are about. If these were right wing protesters the right would be supporting them whilst hiding behind the second amendment. It’s what they do and have always done.

Maybe 99% do that, but within that 99% are people with other less savory reasons. Perhaps not your or my relatives, but I bet if you ask them they’ll give some other prominent reasons.
Any protestors from the right that are rioting and causing property damage or harm to police should be taken to jail. It does not matter what political position you support, harming police and damaging property is not acceptable. And the VAST majority of the right feel that way.



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by RickRund » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:36 pm

I really think they have made their point by now. It is all about fundraising for ActBlue.



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by 91catAlum » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:36 pm

Solid opinion piece, by a Democrat.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-do-dem ... 3?mod=e2fb


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:24 pm

This is an unadulterated mess. On one hand you have these "protesters" going off and no one, that I know of, has even attempted to negotiate with them or they're refusing to be negotiated with. On the other you have the President of the USA bragging about gassing the mayor of Portland. I don't see this ending well. Something horrendous is going to happen.


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

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There is nothing to negotiate.


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