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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by arvcat2 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:29 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:17 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:46 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:15 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:49 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:10 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:37 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:55 am
Cataholic wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:38 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:20 pm


Hey look, we landed on the moon! Just kidding Cataholic... I just joke about it because they are a joke. I posted on here about this awhile back, but the day before George Floyd was killed, 49 of the top 50 stories were ALL on Covid, anti Trump stuff. The day after, 49 of the top 50 stories were ALL about Floyd, police brutality, BLM, and anti Trump stuff. There was ONE story with an update on COVID, way down the list. I am not making those numbers up, that is literally what was there.
It truly is incredible that main stream media outlets are so one sided on Trump. It is hard to be upset with people who have TDS, because the only coverage they see is from the liberal left media. If social media or certain channels (like Fox News) did not exist today, this years Republican Party might have no chance of winning with the one sided coverage.
Protesters/rioters/mass killers have one thing in common. They want media attention. The best thing the media can do is ignore them. As long as they get attention, they’ll keep going. If you think CNN is ignoring them for political reasons, then you must think Fox is covering them for the same reason.

I haven’t heard too many people come up with reasonable proposals to bring it to an end. You guys are letting it devolve into a media coverage debate. People need to keep their eye on the ball.

Reminds me of when people thought solving the drug addiction crisis was solved solely by busting users.
Did you ever think that maybe Fox is just reporting the NEWS! Why would you believe that rioting in the streets is not considered news and just a normal everyday event that will go away if we ignore it?

As for CNN, did they cover the protestors early on when it met the left’s agenda? YES! After it devolves into just anarchy, it is no longer news worthy??? After an person trying to assist someone else is brutally attacked by a BLM “security” person, that is not news worthy?

There is a media coverage debate because it exists. The negative coverage is unprecedented and will have a real impact on voters.

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... -coverage/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... overage-o/

https://msbusiness.com/2020/08/todd-smi ... -negative/
When you protest/riot in the streets for days on end and it mostly boils down to spray painting, chanting, breaking windows it loses its newsworthiness. Sorry, that's not a right or left-wing thing, or a CNN or Fox thing. It's just the way it is. Making this about news coverage is about as mediocre as it gets in terms of trying to making a mountain out of a mole hill. If something significant happens, then it should be covered. I don't need a blow-by-blow report on how someone threw an egg at a statue for the tenth straight day.

Anyway, you can respond again and I'll let it go.
Come on Tom. You didn’t think the guy getting attacked by BLM security for helping an innocent bystander was newsworthy? They almost killed him. Do you think if a white security guy smacked a protester, would it have made CNN then? And the articles above about the uneven coverage doesn’t concern you?
Ya... come on, we aren't talking about the media not covering people spray painting and throwing eggs. We're talking about the multiple videos showing VIOLENCE and CHAOS. How is that not newsworthy? Oh ya, it is. CNN just chooses to not show that because it's very clear it works against the Left agenda.
Wasn’t too long ago that I remember the wall to wall coverage of the Ferguson riots and the whole “hands up, don’t shoot” false narrative shoved down our throats by the media.

I propose that an intrepid local Montana journalist travel to, say downtown Portland, for a week and be our eyes, ears, and boots on the ground. Only caveat is that said journalist daily shift starts at sundown. Any suggestions for the assignment?
Are you talking to me? If so, yes, I’ll accept your offer to go to Portland and report back to you. I’m not going to charge any outrageous rate. I’ll stay in cheap motels and drive out there. Let me know.
Hello? Arvcat? Are still interested in sending me to Portland? Like I said I’m game and I won’t ring up a big tab. Let me know. Waiting to hear back from you.
Hello TomCat88…and why would I ever want to foot your bill? And besides, as you’ve called me a Snowflake living in my parents basement, that would pretty much make me cash poor.
Surely you are well connected in Portland with your journalist brethren and you could shack up with one of them. Or perhaps pitch a tent with the homeless to really get the vibe of the city (and a story). Transportation? Follow the Lewis & Clark trail on foot, horseback, and dugout canoe (another story). You’ll still get there before the protesters turn violent with plenty of stories to fund your trip with.
More of CNN for you:
https://babylonbee.com/news/14-cnn-head ... an-history



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:05 pm

arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:17 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:46 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:15 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:49 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:10 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:37 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:55 am
Cataholic wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:38 pm

It truly is incredible that main stream media outlets are so one sided on Trump. It is hard to be upset with people who have TDS, because the only coverage they see is from the liberal left media. If social media or certain channels (like Fox News) did not exist today, this years Republican Party might have no chance of winning with the one sided coverage.
Protesters/rioters/mass killers have one thing in common. They want media attention. The best thing the media can do is ignore them. As long as they get attention, they’ll keep going. If you think CNN is ignoring them for political reasons, then you must think Fox is covering them for the same reason.

I haven’t heard too many people come up with reasonable proposals to bring it to an end. You guys are letting it devolve into a media coverage debate. People need to keep their eye on the ball.

Reminds me of when people thought solving the drug addiction crisis was solved solely by busting users.
Did you ever think that maybe Fox is just reporting the NEWS! Why would you believe that rioting in the streets is not considered news and just a normal everyday event that will go away if we ignore it?

As for CNN, did they cover the protestors early on when it met the left’s agenda? YES! After it devolves into just anarchy, it is no longer news worthy??? After an person trying to assist someone else is brutally attacked by a BLM “security” person, that is not news worthy?

There is a media coverage debate because it exists. The negative coverage is unprecedented and will have a real impact on voters.

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... -coverage/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... overage-o/

https://msbusiness.com/2020/08/todd-smi ... -negative/
When you protest/riot in the streets for days on end and it mostly boils down to spray painting, chanting, breaking windows it loses its newsworthiness. Sorry, that's not a right or left-wing thing, or a CNN or Fox thing. It's just the way it is. Making this about news coverage is about as mediocre as it gets in terms of trying to making a mountain out of a mole hill. If something significant happens, then it should be covered. I don't need a blow-by-blow report on how someone threw an egg at a statue for the tenth straight day.

Anyway, you can respond again and I'll let it go.
Come on Tom. You didn’t think the guy getting attacked by BLM security for helping an innocent bystander was newsworthy? They almost killed him. Do you think if a white security guy smacked a protester, would it have made CNN then? And the articles above about the uneven coverage doesn’t concern you?
Ya... come on, we aren't talking about the media not covering people spray painting and throwing eggs. We're talking about the multiple videos showing VIOLENCE and CHAOS. How is that not newsworthy? Oh ya, it is. CNN just chooses to not show that because it's very clear it works against the Left agenda.
Wasn’t too long ago that I remember the wall to wall coverage of the Ferguson riots and the whole “hands up, don’t shoot” false narrative shoved down our throats by the media.

I propose that an intrepid local Montana journalist travel to, say downtown Portland, for a week and be our eyes, ears, and boots on the ground. Only caveat is that said journalist daily shift starts at sundown. Any suggestions for the assignment?
Are you talking to me? If so, yes, I’ll accept your offer to go to Portland and report back to you. I’m not going to charge any outrageous rate. I’ll stay in cheap motels and drive out there. Let me know.
Hello? Arvcat? Are still interested in sending me to Portland? Like I said I’m game and I won’t ring up a big tab. Let me know. Waiting to hear back from you.
Hello TomCat88…and why would I ever want to foot your bill? And besides, as you’ve called me a Snowflake living in my parents basement, that would pretty much make me cash poor.
Surely you are well connected in Portland with your journalist brethren and you could shack up with one of them. Or perhaps pitch a tent with the homeless to really get the vibe of the city (and a story). Transportation? Follow the Lewis & Clark trail on foot, horseback, and dugout canoe (another story). You’ll still get there before the protesters turn violent with plenty of stories to fund your trip with.
More of CNN for you:
https://babylonbee.com/news/14-cnn-head ... an-history
Yeah, that's what I figured!! :lol: After days of ducking and hiding I knew you couldn't back it up. Big talk from another poster that can't even put his name in his signature line, so what I expected. Big negotiations the night before, but can't produce on Game Day. Snowflake, parent's basement, and now add lame excuses...looks like I had you pegged. \:D/

Let me know if you're shamed into changing your mind and can back up all that talk with an advance on your allowance or maybe you can roundup some of your fellow Oakley sunglasses wearing, sun burnt bros and get them to chip in. I'll gladly go. Not a problem at all.


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:11 pm



And speaking of snowflakes! \:D/ \:D/


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by Cataholic » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:19 pm

Are you seriously trying to provide legitimacy to Antifa? You do realize what they did this weekend?

https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/man-suspe ... 00-antifa/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/i-am-not-sad ... t-to-death



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by Cataholic » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:27 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:05 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:17 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:46 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:15 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:49 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:10 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:37 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:55 am


Protesters/rioters/mass killers have one thing in common. They want media attention. The best thing the media can do is ignore them. As long as they get attention, they’ll keep going. If you think CNN is ignoring them for political reasons, then you must think Fox is covering them for the same reason.

I haven’t heard too many people come up with reasonable proposals to bring it to an end. You guys are letting it devolve into a media coverage debate. People need to keep their eye on the ball.

Reminds me of when people thought solving the drug addiction crisis was solved solely by busting users.
Did you ever think that maybe Fox is just reporting the NEWS! Why would you believe that rioting in the streets is not considered news and just a normal everyday event that will go away if we ignore it?

As for CNN, did they cover the protestors early on when it met the left’s agenda? YES! After it devolves into just anarchy, it is no longer news worthy??? After an person trying to assist someone else is brutally attacked by a BLM “security” person, that is not news worthy?

There is a media coverage debate because it exists. The negative coverage is unprecedented and will have a real impact on voters.

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... -coverage/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... overage-o/

https://msbusiness.com/2020/08/todd-smi ... -negative/
When you protest/riot in the streets for days on end and it mostly boils down to spray painting, chanting, breaking windows it loses its newsworthiness. Sorry, that's not a right or left-wing thing, or a CNN or Fox thing. It's just the way it is. Making this about news coverage is about as mediocre as it gets in terms of trying to making a mountain out of a mole hill. If something significant happens, then it should be covered. I don't need a blow-by-blow report on how someone threw an egg at a statue for the tenth straight day.

Anyway, you can respond again and I'll let it go.
Come on Tom. You didn’t think the guy getting attacked by BLM security for helping an innocent bystander was newsworthy? They almost killed him. Do you think if a white security guy smacked a protester, would it have made CNN then? And the articles above about the uneven coverage doesn’t concern you?
Ya... come on, we aren't talking about the media not covering people spray painting and throwing eggs. We're talking about the multiple videos showing VIOLENCE and CHAOS. How is that not newsworthy? Oh ya, it is. CNN just chooses to not show that because it's very clear it works against the Left agenda.
Wasn’t too long ago that I remember the wall to wall coverage of the Ferguson riots and the whole “hands up, don’t shoot” false narrative shoved down our throats by the media.

I propose that an intrepid local Montana journalist travel to, say downtown Portland, for a week and be our eyes, ears, and boots on the ground. Only caveat is that said journalist daily shift starts at sundown. Any suggestions for the assignment?
Are you talking to me? If so, yes, I’ll accept your offer to go to Portland and report back to you. I’m not going to charge any outrageous rate. I’ll stay in cheap motels and drive out there. Let me know.
Hello? Arvcat? Are still interested in sending me to Portland? Like I said I’m game and I won’t ring up a big tab. Let me know. Waiting to hear back from you.
Hello TomCat88…and why would I ever want to foot your bill? And besides, as you’ve called me a Snowflake living in my parents basement, that would pretty much make me cash poor.
Surely you are well connected in Portland with your journalist brethren and you could shack up with one of them. Or perhaps pitch a tent with the homeless to really get the vibe of the city (and a story). Transportation? Follow the Lewis & Clark trail on foot, horseback, and dugout canoe (another story). You’ll still get there before the protesters turn violent with plenty of stories to fund your trip with.
More of CNN for you:
https://babylonbee.com/news/14-cnn-head ... an-history
Yeah, that's what I figured!! :lol: After days of ducking and hiding I knew you couldn't back it up. Big talk from another poster that can't even put his name in his signature line, so what I expected. Big negotiations the night before, but can't produce on Game Day. Snowflake, parent's basement, and now add lame excuses...looks like I had you pegged. \:D/

Let me know if you're shamed into changing your mind and can back up all that talk with an advance on your allowance or maybe you can roundup some of your fellow Oakley sunglasses wearing, sun burnt bros and get them to chip in. I'll gladly go. Not a problem at all.
Come on Tom. My original post was in reference to the mainstream media not reporting on Portland or anything that may hurt the Dems. You tried to discount that thought. I can’t imagine that you would be a neutral voice. And you did call him a snowflake...



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by RickRund » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:30 pm

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Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:38 am
Well Chelsea, those of us in Coeur d' Alene have lined the streets three times to keep our city safe. I believe Boise showed up three times to keep things safe. Our Law Enforcement welcomes the assistance.

Don't poke an angry dog. You will get bit...

To add: Rittenhouse was defending himself. And this was the same guy (Blake) that has gone to his "girlfiriends" on several occasions to rape her. He has three children from her and generally only shows up to rape his sweetie and make another kid. He had gone back to his car to pull out a knife. Now, we will wait to hear ALL the evidence before we call Blake either Man of the Year or full fledged jerk and the same with Rittenhouse...



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:09 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:27 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:05 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:17 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:46 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:15 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:49 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:10 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:37 am

Did you ever think that maybe Fox is just reporting the NEWS! Why would you believe that rioting in the streets is not considered news and just a normal everyday event that will go away if we ignore it?

As for CNN, did they cover the protestors early on when it met the left’s agenda? YES! After it devolves into just anarchy, it is no longer news worthy??? After an person trying to assist someone else is brutally attacked by a BLM “security” person, that is not news worthy?

There is a media coverage debate because it exists. The negative coverage is unprecedented and will have a real impact on voters.

https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... -coverage/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... overage-o/

https://msbusiness.com/2020/08/todd-smi ... -negative/
When you protest/riot in the streets for days on end and it mostly boils down to spray painting, chanting, breaking windows it loses its newsworthiness. Sorry, that's not a right or left-wing thing, or a CNN or Fox thing. It's just the way it is. Making this about news coverage is about as mediocre as it gets in terms of trying to making a mountain out of a mole hill. If something significant happens, then it should be covered. I don't need a blow-by-blow report on how someone threw an egg at a statue for the tenth straight day.

Anyway, you can respond again and I'll let it go.
Come on Tom. You didn’t think the guy getting attacked by BLM security for helping an innocent bystander was newsworthy? They almost killed him. Do you think if a white security guy smacked a protester, would it have made CNN then? And the articles above about the uneven coverage doesn’t concern you?
Ya... come on, we aren't talking about the media not covering people spray painting and throwing eggs. We're talking about the multiple videos showing VIOLENCE and CHAOS. How is that not newsworthy? Oh ya, it is. CNN just chooses to not show that because it's very clear it works against the Left agenda.
Wasn’t too long ago that I remember the wall to wall coverage of the Ferguson riots and the whole “hands up, don’t shoot” false narrative shoved down our throats by the media.

I propose that an intrepid local Montana journalist travel to, say downtown Portland, for a week and be our eyes, ears, and boots on the ground. Only caveat is that said journalist daily shift starts at sundown. Any suggestions for the assignment?
Are you talking to me? If so, yes, I’ll accept your offer to go to Portland and report back to you. I’m not going to charge any outrageous rate. I’ll stay in cheap motels and drive out there. Let me know.
Hello? Arvcat? Are still interested in sending me to Portland? Like I said I’m game and I won’t ring up a big tab. Let me know. Waiting to hear back from you.
Hello TomCat88…and why would I ever want to foot your bill? And besides, as you’ve called me a Snowflake living in my parents basement, that would pretty much make me cash poor.
Surely you are well connected in Portland with your journalist brethren and you could shack up with one of them. Or perhaps pitch a tent with the homeless to really get the vibe of the city (and a story). Transportation? Follow the Lewis & Clark trail on foot, horseback, and dugout canoe (another story). You’ll still get there before the protesters turn violent with plenty of stories to fund your trip with.
More of CNN for you:
https://babylonbee.com/news/14-cnn-head ... an-history
Yeah, that's what I figured!! :lol: After days of ducking and hiding I knew you couldn't back it up. Big talk from another poster that can't even put his name in his signature line, so what I expected. Big negotiations the night before, but can't produce on Game Day. Snowflake, parent's basement, and now add lame excuses...looks like I had you pegged. \:D/

Let me know if you're shamed into changing your mind and can back up all that talk with an advance on your allowance or maybe you can roundup some of your fellow Oakley sunglasses wearing, sun burnt bros and get them to chip in. I'll gladly go. Not a problem at all.
Come on Tom. My original post was in reference to the mainstream media not reporting on Portland or anything that may hurt the Dems. You tried to discount that thought. I can’t imagine that you would be a neutral voice. And you did call him a snowflake...
I think you're off base on the mainstream media not reporting on Portland. If you're going to support arvcat and hold being in the media against me, then you're going to have to take what media experience I have to heart a bit. Having been in the media I can tell you that stories that get bland don't get covered. It's been 90+ days now and there have only been a couple significant events come out of there since it first started, which was newsworthy IMO. When something new starts up, it gets covered a lot initially, but after that it begins to fade. It's called "news" for a reason, it's new and readers read it. When they stop reading it, it gets pushed to the inside pages, then nothing. It just isn't news in Portland anymore unless something big happens and even then it's not a sure deal that it will get run. You recall the story I had about Malta? Well, I gave that info to someone in a position to do something about it and no one looked into it, and it was a story that most would consider pro-Dem. To him, it just wasn't news. There's a saying in this business, "just because you think it's news, doesn't mean the editor will." I've personally had people try to pitch stories to me that I simply didn't find all that interesting and therefore I told them no. They thought it was news, I didn't. It was nothing personal. There's a lot of stuff that does make the paper that I don't think is news and things I think should get in, but don't.


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by Cataholic » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:47 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:09 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:27 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:05 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:17 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:46 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:15 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:49 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:10 pm

When you protest/riot in the streets for days on end and it mostly boils down to spray painting, chanting, breaking windows it loses its newsworthiness. Sorry, that's not a right or left-wing thing, or a CNN or Fox thing. It's just the way it is. Making this about news coverage is about as mediocre as it gets in terms of trying to making a mountain out of a mole hill. If something significant happens, then it should be covered. I don't need a blow-by-blow report on how someone threw an egg at a statue for the tenth straight day.

Anyway, you can respond again and I'll let it go.
Come on Tom. You didn’t think the guy getting attacked by BLM security for helping an innocent bystander was newsworthy? They almost killed him. Do you think if a white security guy smacked a protester, would it have made CNN then? And the articles above about the uneven coverage doesn’t concern you?
Ya... come on, we aren't talking about the media not covering people spray painting and throwing eggs. We're talking about the multiple videos showing VIOLENCE and CHAOS. How is that not newsworthy? Oh ya, it is. CNN just chooses to not show that because it's very clear it works against the Left agenda.
Wasn’t too long ago that I remember the wall to wall coverage of the Ferguson riots and the whole “hands up, don’t shoot” false narrative shoved down our throats by the media.

I propose that an intrepid local Montana journalist travel to, say downtown Portland, for a week and be our eyes, ears, and boots on the ground. Only caveat is that said journalist daily shift starts at sundown. Any suggestions for the assignment?
Are you talking to me? If so, yes, I’ll accept your offer to go to Portland and report back to you. I’m not going to charge any outrageous rate. I’ll stay in cheap motels and drive out there. Let me know.
Hello? Arvcat? Are still interested in sending me to Portland? Like I said I’m game and I won’t ring up a big tab. Let me know. Waiting to hear back from you.
Hello TomCat88…and why would I ever want to foot your bill? And besides, as you’ve called me a Snowflake living in my parents basement, that would pretty much make me cash poor.
Surely you are well connected in Portland with your journalist brethren and you could shack up with one of them. Or perhaps pitch a tent with the homeless to really get the vibe of the city (and a story). Transportation? Follow the Lewis & Clark trail on foot, horseback, and dugout canoe (another story). You’ll still get there before the protesters turn violent with plenty of stories to fund your trip with.
More of CNN for you:
https://babylonbee.com/news/14-cnn-head ... an-history
Yeah, that's what I figured!! :lol: After days of ducking and hiding I knew you couldn't back it up. Big talk from another poster that can't even put his name in his signature line, so what I expected. Big negotiations the night before, but can't produce on Game Day. Snowflake, parent's basement, and now add lame excuses...looks like I had you pegged. \:D/

Let me know if you're shamed into changing your mind and can back up all that talk with an advance on your allowance or maybe you can roundup some of your fellow Oakley sunglasses wearing, sun burnt bros and get them to chip in. I'll gladly go. Not a problem at all.
Come on Tom. My original post was in reference to the mainstream media not reporting on Portland or anything that may hurt the Dems. You tried to discount that thought. I can’t imagine that you would be a neutral voice. And you did call him a snowflake...
I think you're off base on the mainstream media not reporting on Portland. If you're going to support arvcat and hold being in the media against me, then you're going to have to take what media experience I have to heart a bit. Having been in the media I can tell you that stories that get bland don't get covered. It's been 90+ days now and there have only been a couple significant events come out of there since it first started, which was newsworthy IMO. When something new starts up, it gets covered a lot initially, but after that it begins to fade. It's called "news" for a reason, it's new and readers read it. When they stop reading it, it gets pushed to the inside pages, then nothing. It just isn't news in Portland anymore unless something big happens and even then it's not a sure deal that it will get run. You recall the story I had about Malta? Well, I gave that info to someone in a position to do something about it and no one looked into it, and it was a story that most would consider pro-Dem. To him, it just wasn't news. There's a saying in this business, "just because you think it's news, doesn't mean the editor will." I've personally had people try to pitch stories to me that I simply didn't find all that interesting and therefore I told them no. They thought it was news, I didn't. It was nothing personal. There's a lot of stuff that does make the paper that I don't think is news and things I think should get in, but don't.
I can appreciate your experience in the media, but I really think your left leaning political views are influencing your thoughts. The riots/protests in Portland was a nightly item on Fox News as well as local media outlets. To give CNN a pass that it was not newsworthy is not supported by the actual facts. One item not covered by CNN was where the innocent bystander that was helping a transgender woman was attacked by BLM security and almost killed. Despite extensive national coverage, CNN did not have it among the 100+ news stories on their websites front page.

While I agree that publications may not feel something is newsworthy, many of those same publications can have political leanings/agendas. This year has seen such biased coverage of Trump that it has really impacted the election. I think that is a sad comment on today’s media. Whatever happens to reporting just the facts? Now every reporter is inserting their political views.



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:00 pm

Rich K wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:31 pm
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Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:59 pm
So good to see that those peaceful protesters are still so calm and reserved. That no violence is breaking out.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/federal-o ... ing%20News
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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by Cataholic » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:19 pm

Here is an example of the uneven mainstream media coverage. Can you imagine if Trump made these comments? MSNBC and CNN would have a prime time special with the comments.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-gaf ... ght-nights



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:36 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:47 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:09 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:27 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:05 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:17 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:46 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:15 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:49 pm


Come on Tom. You didn’t think the guy getting attacked by BLM security for helping an innocent bystander was newsworthy? They almost killed him. Do you think if a white security guy smacked a protester, would it have made CNN then? And the articles above about the uneven coverage doesn’t concern you?
Ya... come on, we aren't talking about the media not covering people spray painting and throwing eggs. We're talking about the multiple videos showing VIOLENCE and CHAOS. How is that not newsworthy? Oh ya, it is. CNN just chooses to not show that because it's very clear it works against the Left agenda.
Wasn’t too long ago that I remember the wall to wall coverage of the Ferguson riots and the whole “hands up, don’t shoot” false narrative shoved down our throats by the media.

I propose that an intrepid local Montana journalist travel to, say downtown Portland, for a week and be our eyes, ears, and boots on the ground. Only caveat is that said journalist daily shift starts at sundown. Any suggestions for the assignment?
Are you talking to me? If so, yes, I’ll accept your offer to go to Portland and report back to you. I’m not going to charge any outrageous rate. I’ll stay in cheap motels and drive out there. Let me know.
Hello? Arvcat? Are still interested in sending me to Portland? Like I said I’m game and I won’t ring up a big tab. Let me know. Waiting to hear back from you.
Hello TomCat88…and why would I ever want to foot your bill? And besides, as you’ve called me a Snowflake living in my parents basement, that would pretty much make me cash poor.
Surely you are well connected in Portland with your journalist brethren and you could shack up with one of them. Or perhaps pitch a tent with the homeless to really get the vibe of the city (and a story). Transportation? Follow the Lewis & Clark trail on foot, horseback, and dugout canoe (another story). You’ll still get there before the protesters turn violent with plenty of stories to fund your trip with.
More of CNN for you:
https://babylonbee.com/news/14-cnn-head ... an-history
Yeah, that's what I figured!! :lol: After days of ducking and hiding I knew you couldn't back it up. Big talk from another poster that can't even put his name in his signature line, so what I expected. Big negotiations the night before, but can't produce on Game Day. Snowflake, parent's basement, and now add lame excuses...looks like I had you pegged. \:D/

Let me know if you're shamed into changing your mind and can back up all that talk with an advance on your allowance or maybe you can roundup some of your fellow Oakley sunglasses wearing, sun burnt bros and get them to chip in. I'll gladly go. Not a problem at all.
Come on Tom. My original post was in reference to the mainstream media not reporting on Portland or anything that may hurt the Dems. You tried to discount that thought. I can’t imagine that you would be a neutral voice. And you did call him a snowflake...
I think you're off base on the mainstream media not reporting on Portland. If you're going to support arvcat and hold being in the media against me, then you're going to have to take what media experience I have to heart a bit. Having been in the media I can tell you that stories that get bland don't get covered. It's been 90+ days now and there have only been a couple significant events come out of there since it first started, which was newsworthy IMO. When something new starts up, it gets covered a lot initially, but after that it begins to fade. It's called "news" for a reason, it's new and readers read it. When they stop reading it, it gets pushed to the inside pages, then nothing. It just isn't news in Portland anymore unless something big happens and even then it's not a sure deal that it will get run. You recall the story I had about Malta? Well, I gave that info to someone in a position to do something about it and no one looked into it, and it was a story that most would consider pro-Dem. To him, it just wasn't news. There's a saying in this business, "just because you think it's news, doesn't mean the editor will." I've personally had people try to pitch stories to me that I simply didn't find all that interesting and therefore I told them no. They thought it was news, I didn't. It was nothing personal. There's a lot of stuff that does make the paper that I don't think is news and things I think should get in, but don't.
I can appreciate your experience in the media, but I really think your left leaning political views are influencing your thoughts. The riots/protests in Portland was a nightly item on Fox News as well as local media outlets. To give CNN a pass that it was not newsworthy is not supported by the actual facts. One item not covered by CNN was where the innocent bystander that was helping a transgender woman was attacked by BLM security and almost killed. Despite extensive national coverage, CNN did not have it among the 100+ news stories on their websites front page.

While I agree that publications may not feel something is newsworthy, many of those same publications can have political leanings/agendas. This year has seen such biased coverage of Trump that it has really impacted the election. I think that is a sad comment on today’s media. Whatever happens to reporting just the facts? Now every reporter is inserting their political views.
I don't have left leaning political views. I'm very moderate. Right now the left is more moderate than the right, so I side with the left more often.

Just because Fox News wants to run it doesn't mean that everyone is going to. The local media will almost always cover that kind of thing daily.

Not giving CNN a pass, just explaining to you how it works. It's CNN's choice and, as you know, they aren't going to not run something that's newsworthy. They want viewers/ratings and they want advertisers. They make business decisions.

Yes, you can find one item not covered that you think should be almost every day in every form of media on the planet.

There has been no biased coverage of Trump. The media covers Trump because he's one of the most outlandish leaders of a country in world history. It's a non-stop, daily thing. He wants and knows how to get attention and appears to live by the theme that there's no such thing as bad press. That's his choice, no can complain about the media coverage good or bad he gets. I think he gets too much and takes up too much space in the news. I think the media is very fair with him. I'd like to not know or care what the president is doing, but he makes that impossible.


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This is the Statement from Sheriff Roberts
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Rich K wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:21 pm
This is the Statement from Sheriff Roberts
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And he’s right. Sending in more law enforcement personnel won’t work. Without an attempt to negotiate that move would only spark more violence and very likely make law enforcement look bad. Sounds like history repeating itself. As in Kent State.

The protesters, especially, and instigators don’t seem to have much clear leadership. That’s volatile, because that means they’re running their own protests with no need for directions, and there’s no point of contact for government officials. Sending a mass of law enforcement would likely create a breakout of fighting in multiple areas. Nothing good would come from that.


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by Cataholic » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:40 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:24 am
Rich K wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:21 pm
This is the Statement from Sheriff Roberts
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And he’s right. Sending in more law enforcement personnel won’t work. Without an attempt to negotiate that move would only spark more violence and very likely make law enforcement look bad. Sounds like history repeating itself. As in Kent State.

The protesters, especially, and instigators don’t seem to have much clear leadership. That’s volatile, because that means they’re running their own protests with no need for directions, and there’s no point of contact for government officials. Sending a mass of law enforcement would likely create a breakout of fighting in multiple areas. Nothing good would come from that.
I think the main point Sheriff Roberts is making is that prosecutors need to enforce the law. Sending in more police won’t change anything until prosecutors lock up the criminals.



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by Rich K » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:57 am

Cataholic wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:40 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:24 am
Rich K wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:21 pm
This is the Statement from Sheriff Roberts
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And he’s right. Sending in more law enforcement personnel won’t work. Without an attempt to negotiate that move would only spark more violence and very likely make law enforcement look bad. Sounds like history repeating itself. As in Kent State.

The protesters, especially, and instigators don’t seem to have much clear leadership. That’s volatile, because that means they’re running their own protests with no need for directions, and there’s no point of contact for government officials. Sending a mass of law enforcement would likely create a breakout of fighting in multiple areas. Nothing good would come from that.
I think the main point Sheriff Roberts is making is that prosecutors need to enforce the law. Sending in more police won’t change anything until prosecutors lock up the criminals.
That's exactly right. There is no negotiation with these morons. They have no demands, they are just a mob.

Two ways this will end:

1. Biden is elected, in which case the criminals will be rewarded with government largess and be allowed to continue along their demented way until they are needed again for the next big political showdown.

2. Trump is elected, and this is the ONLY way this will end, because TRUMP will be re-elected, is by enforcing the law and prosecuting the criminals.

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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by RickRund » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:23 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:36 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:47 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:09 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:27 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:05 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:17 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm
arvcat2 wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:46 am
catatac wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:15 pm


Ya... come on, we aren't talking about the media not covering people spray painting and throwing eggs. We're talking about the multiple videos showing VIOLENCE and CHAOS. How is that not newsworthy? Oh ya, it is. CNN just chooses to not show that because it's very clear it works against the Left agenda.
Wasn’t too long ago that I remember the wall to wall coverage of the Ferguson riots and the whole “hands up, don’t shoot” false narrative shoved down our throats by the media.

I propose that an intrepid local Montana journalist travel to, say downtown Portland, for a week and be our eyes, ears, and boots on the ground. Only caveat is that said journalist daily shift starts at sundown. Any suggestions for the assignment?
Are you talking to me? If so, yes, I’ll accept your offer to go to Portland and report back to you. I’m not going to charge any outrageous rate. I’ll stay in cheap motels and drive out there. Let me know.
Hello? Arvcat? Are still interested in sending me to Portland? Like I said I’m game and I won’t ring up a big tab. Let me know. Waiting to hear back from you.
Hello TomCat88…and why would I ever want to foot your bill? And besides, as you’ve called me a Snowflake living in my parents basement, that would pretty much make me cash poor.
Surely you are well connected in Portland with your journalist brethren and you could shack up with one of them. Or perhaps pitch a tent with the homeless to really get the vibe of the city (and a story). Transportation? Follow the Lewis & Clark trail on foot, horseback, and dugout canoe (another story). You’ll still get there before the protesters turn violent with plenty of stories to fund your trip with.
More of CNN for you:
https://babylonbee.com/news/14-cnn-head ... an-history
Yeah, that's what I figured!! :lol: After days of ducking and hiding I knew you couldn't back it up. Big talk from another poster that can't even put his name in his signature line, so what I expected. Big negotiations the night before, but can't produce on Game Day. Snowflake, parent's basement, and now add lame excuses...looks like I had you pegged. \:D/

Let me know if you're shamed into changing your mind and can back up all that talk with an advance on your allowance or maybe you can roundup some of your fellow Oakley sunglasses wearing, sun burnt bros and get them to chip in. I'll gladly go. Not a problem at all.
Come on Tom. My original post was in reference to the mainstream media not reporting on Portland or anything that may hurt the Dems. You tried to discount that thought. I can’t imagine that you would be a neutral voice. And you did call him a snowflake...
I think you're off base on the mainstream media not reporting on Portland. If you're going to support arvcat and hold being in the media against me, then you're going to have to take what media experience I have to heart a bit. Having been in the media I can tell you that stories that get bland don't get covered. It's been 90+ days now and there have only been a couple significant events come out of there since it first started, which was newsworthy IMO. When something new starts up, it gets covered a lot initially, but after that it begins to fade. It's called "news" for a reason, it's new and readers read it. When they stop reading it, it gets pushed to the inside pages, then nothing. It just isn't news in Portland anymore unless something big happens and even then it's not a sure deal that it will get run. You recall the story I had about Malta? Well, I gave that info to someone in a position to do something about it and no one looked into it, and it was a story that most would consider pro-Dem. To him, it just wasn't news. There's a saying in this business, "just because you think it's news, doesn't mean the editor will." I've personally had people try to pitch stories to me that I simply didn't find all that interesting and therefore I told them no. They thought it was news, I didn't. It was nothing personal. There's a lot of stuff that does make the paper that I don't think is news and things I think should get in, but don't.
I can appreciate your experience in the media, but I really think your left leaning political views are influencing your thoughts. The riots/protests in Portland was a nightly item on Fox News as well as local media outlets. To give CNN a pass that it was not newsworthy is not supported by the actual facts. One item not covered by CNN was where the innocent bystander that was helping a transgender woman was attacked by BLM security and almost killed. Despite extensive national coverage, CNN did not have it among the 100+ news stories on their websites front page.

While I agree that publications may not feel something is newsworthy, many of those same publications can have political leanings/agendas. This year has seen such biased coverage of Trump that it has really impacted the election. I think that is a sad comment on today’s media. Whatever happens to reporting just the facts? Now every reporter is inserting their political views.
I don't have left leaning political views. I'm very moderate. Right now the left is more moderate than the right, so I side with the left more often.

Just because Fox News wants to run it doesn't mean that everyone is going to. The local media will almost always cover that kind of thing daily.

Not giving CNN a pass, just explaining to you how it works. It's CNN's choice and, as you know, they aren't going to not run something that's newsworthy. They want viewers/ratings and they want advertisers. They make business decisions.

Yes, you can find one item not covered that you think should be almost every day in every form of media on the planet.

There has been no biased coverage of Trump. The media covers Trump because he's one of the most outlandish leaders of a country in world history. It's a non-stop, daily thing. He wants and knows how to get attention and appears to live by the theme that there's no such thing as bad press. That's his choice, no can complain about the media coverage good or bad he gets. I think he gets too much and takes up too much space in the news. I think the media is very fair with him. I'd like to not know or care what the president is doing, but he makes that impossible.
Curious to get input here. One of our old Pastors has "the stake theory". He feels that Churches have made the mistake of thinking that if they moderate their views but not as much as the world changes that they are still holding true to their beliefs. If they drove their stake in the ground at the perceived historical Church teachings but then moderated but not as much as the world changes they are OK.
Likewise if those of us the are Conservative/right wing drive our stake in the ground at our perceived historical beliefs of the CONSTITUTION/Declaration are we considered radical, right wing, main stream. That to me would mean that the present democrat party, now going strongly left/socialist would be the true radicals. The ones going off the deep end.
I remember one of the boys in our Youth group commenting about 15 years ago on Biblical teachings, that is 21st Century. We have to keep up with the times. I just looked at him and told him to go tell JESUS that. I'm sure HE would feel differently. It would be nice to be able to talk to Madison, Jefferson, Adams (2), Hancock, Henry, etc and get their input.
So, I feel that as followers of the Founders we are not radical...



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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by catatac » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:28 am

Sorry Tom, I respect your opinions on all of this stuff but if you honestly think CNN doesn't have huge bias towards trump..... well I don't know what to tell you. Trump could rescue a baby from a burning building and I promise you CNN would either ignore the story, or they'd write a story about it and suggest that it was set up to collect votes. I am not exaggerating. Look, we all understand a LOT of people hate Trump and this causes blindness towards ANYTHING positive that he may have done. That said, there have been positives. Can anyone find ONE story on CNN that praises Trump for any positive moves he's made during his presidency?


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Re: Federal police in Portland?

Post by iaafan » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:14 pm

Anyone thinking CNN is bigly biased is extremely right wing. The right in America is much further right than almost anywhere in the world. The left is less than the average worldwide.

The right currently looks like an Islamic fundamentalist group. Vanilla Isis. They’re running around with big flags on your trucks, carrying weapons in one hand and holding Bibles in the other. It’s grotesque, but they have no idea how closely they resemble Isis.

They’re emboldened by Trump’s rhetoric and have come out of the woodwork. We always knew they were there, but the numbers and vitriol are more than expected.

They’re actually pissed because a group of people want their constitutional rights upheld after years of empty promises to make things better.

One side has some noble and worth fighting for. The other is living in the dark ages of the Jim Crow south.

But cnn and others are not supposed to say anything about that because that means they’re biased against Trump. Yeah, okay, I think I got now.....uh, no.



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