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Post by Cataholic » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:36 am

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I guess I’d classify the the right as more of a boycott culture. NFL, NBA, NASCAR, Nike, partners who called out the NRA, Keurig, Starbucks, the list is extensive.
Sorry but I am confused by your post. Are you saying that the NFL, NBA, etc are part of the right?
No- the right has called on boycotts of these organizations. A good example is when Pence went to a Colts game and left immediately when players kneeled during the National Anthem. It was a very obvious political stunt.
That is not what Celtic Cat said, but I will play your game. Pence did not agree with them kneeling so he left. Did Pence demand America boycott the NFL? And did you realize that a huge portion of the Democratic Party does not support kneeling during the national anthem? Do you?



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Post by CelticCat » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:08 pm

That is what I said - people on the right boycott businesses based on that business’s politics or their stance on BLM, social justice, etc.

Trump didn’t outright say people should boycott the NFL but he said “If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast. Fire or suspend!”

I mean that’s a close to saying you should boycott without actually saying you should boycott as you can get.


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Post by profisme » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:53 am

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Being jailed for a large family gathering is extreme and IMO unwarranted. I'm most certainly not supportive of rioting or looting. Peaceful protesting is a different matter. That is a 1st amendment right.

Rep. Jordan probably shouldn't be throwing stones though. It is amazing he still has a job, especially with things having come to light from Michigan State and Penn State over the past 15 years or so. He has his own problems.

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Post by Cataholic » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:59 pm

Here comes the deluge of programs we can’t afford. Buckle up for more taxes and runaway spending.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- ... veness.amp



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Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:59 pm
Here comes the deluge of programs we can’t afford. Buckle up for more taxes and runaway spending.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- ... veness.amp
I think the thing about the Biden admin I’m most excited for is how, now all of a sudden, old white dudes will be worried about spending/debt/deficit again.



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Post by The Butcher » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:09 am

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:12 pm
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:59 pm
Here comes the deluge of programs we can’t afford. Buckle up for more taxes and runaway spending.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- ... veness.amp
I think the thing about the Biden admin I’m most excited for is how, now all of a sudden, old white dudes will be worried about spending/debt/deficit again.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Republicans only care about the debt when there is a Democrat in the White House. That has been made abundantly clear the last 4 years.



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Post by RickRund » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:22 am

The only area I disagreed with Trump was his spending. I have always been for a smaller, less spendy government. So right of the top of my head that is my only area of disagreement. That is why I like the Tea Party and Freedom Caucus.



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Post by BozoneCat » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:19 pm

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The only area I disagreed with Trump was his spending. I have always been for a smaller, less spendy government. So right of the top of my head that is my only area of disagreement. That is why I like the Tea Party and Freedom Caucus.
I am also in favor of vastly smaller, decreased spending government. That's a huge part of my disillusionment with the Republican Party - they are supposed to be the party of financial conservatism, and they spend money just as much as the Democrats do, just on different things. It's all too much IMO. I voted for Trump in 2016 hoping that he would run the country more like a business and cut spending, and instead he spent money like a drunken sailor just like the rest of them. Compound that with his handling of COVID and his general persona in just about every regard, and this is why he lost the election. Biden is far from a "perfect" candidate (if such a thing even exists), and I know I won't agree with many of his spending/policy positions either. I think we could easily run a very functional government that does what it needs to do (police, roads, schools, etc.) and still probably cut 50% of the money they normally spend.


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Post by Cataholic » Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:49 pm

Another San Francisco liberal left failure. Citizens should be irate and people should be fired.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/amp/S ... 001074.php
San Francisco is paying $16.1 million to shelter homeless people in 262 tents placed in empty lots around the city where they also get services and food — a steep price tag that amounts to more than $61,000 per tent per year.



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Post by RickRund » Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:45 pm

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Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:49 pm
Another San Francisco liberal left failure. Citizens should be irate and people should be fired.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/amp/S ... 001074.php
San Francisco is paying $16.1 million to shelter homeless people in 262 tents placed in empty lots around the city where they also get services and food — a steep price tag that amounts to more than $61,000 per tent per year.
Well, it is nutcase sf!!! "Leadership is really horrible on most of the left coast!



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Post by TomCat88 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:11 am

RickRund wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:45 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:49 pm
Another San Francisco liberal left failure. Citizens should be irate and people should be fired.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/amp/S ... 001074.php
San Francisco is paying $16.1 million to shelter homeless people in 262 tents placed in empty lots around the city where they also get services and food — a steep price tag that amounts to more than $61,000 per tent per year.
Well, it is nutcase sf!!! "Leadership is really horrible on most of the left coast!
Isn’t this kinda what the Bible says we should do? Matthew 25:35. Or are you saying what SF is doing isn’t adequate?
https://calmatters.org/explainers/calif ... explained/


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Post by Cataholic » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:21 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:11 am
RickRund wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:45 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:49 pm
Another San Francisco liberal left failure. Citizens should be irate and people should be fired.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/amp/S ... 001074.php
San Francisco is paying $16.1 million to shelter homeless people in 262 tents placed in empty lots around the city where they also get services and food — a steep price tag that amounts to more than $61,000 per tent per year.
Well, it is nutcase sf!!! "Leadership is really horrible on most of the left coast!
Isn’t this kinda what the Bible says we should do? Matthew 25:35. Or are you saying what SF is doing isn’t adequate?
https://calmatters.org/explainers/calif ... explained/
Nobody is saying not to help the homeless. If you can’t see that spending $61,000 per TENT is an issue, then you are just facilitating the problem. Find a more economic way to do this. Lots of options cheaper than this and better conditions on top of it.

And what does religion say about abortion or same sex marriage? Isn’t it hypocritical to use religion to justify one of your views then say religion doesn’t apply to another of your views?



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Post by TomCat88 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:48 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:21 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:11 am
RickRund wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:45 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:49 pm
Another San Francisco liberal left failure. Citizens should be irate and people should be fired.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/amp/S ... 001074.php
San Francisco is paying $16.1 million to shelter homeless people in 262 tents placed in empty lots around the city where they also get services and food — a steep price tag that amounts to more than $61,000 per tent per year.
Well, it is nutcase sf!!! "Leadership is really horrible on most of the left coast!
Isn’t this kinda what the Bible says we should do? Matthew 25:35. Or are you saying what SF is doing isn’t adequate?
https://calmatters.org/explainers/calif ... explained/
Nobody is saying not to help the homeless. If you can’t see that spending $61,000 per TENT is an issue, then you are just facilitating the problem. Find a more economic way to do this. Lots of options cheaper than this and better conditions on top of it.

And what does religion say about abortion or same sex marriage? Isn’t it hypocritical to use religion to justify one of your views then say religion doesn’t apply to another of your views?
Oh!! I didn’t know the cost of each tent is $61,000! Yes that’s bad. I thought it was the cost for food, water health care. My bad. Tents only cost around 1,000 dollars at Sportsman warehouse


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Post by RickRund » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:16 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:48 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:21 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:11 am
RickRund wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:45 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:49 pm
Another San Francisco liberal left failure. Citizens should be irate and people should be fired.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/amp/S ... 001074.php
San Francisco is paying $16.1 million to shelter homeless people in 262 tents placed in empty lots around the city where they also get services and food — a steep price tag that amounts to more than $61,000 per tent per year.
Well, it is nutcase sf!!! "Leadership is really horrible on most of the left coast!
Isn’t this kinda what the Bible says we should do? Matthew 25:35. Or are you saying what SF is doing isn’t adequate?
https://calmatters.org/explainers/calif ... explained/
Nobody is saying not to help the homeless. If you can’t see that spending $61,000 per TENT is an issue, then you are just facilitating the problem. Find a more economic way to do this. Lots of options cheaper than this and better conditions on top of it.

And what does religion say about abortion or same sex marriage? Isn’t it hypocritical to use religion to justify one of your views then say religion doesn’t apply to another of your views?
Oh!! I didn’t know the cost of each tent is $61,000! Yes that’s bad. I thought it was the cost for food, water health care. My bad. Tents only cost around 1,000 dollars at Sportsman warehouse
And JESUS just did not give away "tents and free food". HE would heal all the subjects in the Bible and then say "go and sin no more". HE would "expect" more from them. These cities give away stuff but never fixed the problem at hand. They just breed more need.



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Post by TomCat88 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:23 pm

RickRund wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:16 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:48 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:21 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:11 am
RickRund wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:45 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:49 pm
Another San Francisco liberal left failure. Citizens should be irate and people should be fired.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/amp/S ... 001074.php
San Francisco is paying $16.1 million to shelter homeless people in 262 tents placed in empty lots around the city where they also get services and food — a steep price tag that amounts to more than $61,000 per tent per year.
Well, it is nutcase sf!!! "Leadership is really horrible on most of the left coast!
Isn’t this kinda what the Bible says we should do? Matthew 25:35. Or are you saying what SF is doing isn’t adequate?
https://calmatters.org/explainers/calif ... explained/
Nobody is saying not to help the homeless. If you can’t see that spending $61,000 per TENT is an issue, then you are just facilitating the problem. Find a more economic way to do this. Lots of options cheaper than this and better conditions on top of it.

And what does religion say about abortion or same sex marriage? Isn’t it hypocritical to use religion to justify one of your views then say religion doesn’t apply to another of your views?
Oh!! I didn’t know the cost of each tent is $61,000! Yes that’s bad. I thought it was the cost for food, water health care. My bad. Tents only cost around 1,000 dollars at Sportsman warehouse
And JESUS just did not give away "tents and free food". HE would heal all the subjects in the Bible and then say "go and sin no more". HE would "expect" more from them. These cities give away stuff but never fixed the problem at hand. They just breed more need.
Great point!


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Post by Cataholic » Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:46 pm

Sex education in Kindergarten. I would love to hear some of our liberal posters try to defend this one. Better yet, it would be refreshing to see some of those liberals express disappointment in such legislation.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/ny-lawmak ... tners/amp/
Legislation sponsored by state Sen. Samra G. Brouk, a freshman Democrat from Rochester, would tie New York’s health curriculum to standards written by a left-wing interest group that advocates “Sex Ed for Social Change” — and would make those lessons mandatory statewide.

Under that group’s current standards, public and charter schools would have to teach 5-year-olds about “gender identity” and instruct 8-year-olds on hormone blockers to prevent puberty in transgender-identifying preteens.

Kids as young as 11 would get lectures on “vaginal, oral, and anal sex”; study “queer, two-spirit, asexual, pansexual” and other gender identities; and receive explicit instruction on the use of external and internal condoms, dental dams and other contraceptives.



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Post by TomCat88 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:13 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:46 pm
Sex education in Kindergarten. I would love to hear some of our liberal posters try to defend this one. Better yet, it would be refreshing to see some of those liberals express disappointment in such legislation.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/ny-lawmak ... tners/amp/
Legislation sponsored by state Sen. Samra G. Brouk, a freshman Democrat from Rochester, would tie New York’s health curriculum to standards written by a left-wing interest group that advocates “Sex Ed for Social Change” — and would make those lessons mandatory statewide.

Under that group’s current standards, public and charter schools would have to teach 5-year-olds about “gender identity” and instruct 8-year-olds on hormone blockers to prevent puberty in transgender-identifying preteens.

Kids as young as 11 would get lectures on “vaginal, oral, and anal sex”; study “queer, two-spirit, asexual, pansexual” and other gender identities; and receive explicit instruction on the use of external and internal condoms, dental dams and other contraceptives.
Sex education, another wedge issue to keep the right and left middle classers from ever joining together to form a moderate middle class party. Throw it in there with guns, abortion, ...


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Post by The Butcher » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:29 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:13 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:46 pm
Sex education in Kindergarten. I would love to hear some of our liberal posters try to defend this one. Better yet, it would be refreshing to see some of those liberals express disappointment in such legislation.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/ny-lawmak ... tners/amp/
Legislation sponsored by state Sen. Samra G. Brouk, a freshman Democrat from Rochester, would tie New York’s health curriculum to standards written by a left-wing interest group that advocates “Sex Ed for Social Change” — and would make those lessons mandatory statewide.

Under that group’s current standards, public and charter schools would have to teach 5-year-olds about “gender identity” and instruct 8-year-olds on hormone blockers to prevent puberty in transgender-identifying preteens.

Kids as young as 11 would get lectures on “vaginal, oral, and anal sex”; study “queer, two-spirit, asexual, pansexual” and other gender identities; and receive explicit instruction on the use of external and internal condoms, dental dams and other contraceptives.
Sex education, another wedge issue to keep the right and left middle classers from ever joining together to form a moderate middle class party. Throw it in there with guns, abortion, ...
Here is another classic wedge issue the GOP loves:
South Dakota Passes Bill Restricting Transgender Girls From Sports Teams
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/08/97500203 ... orts-teams

Just a FYI; this law would have impacted ONE person in the past decade. Good use of legislative time...
I am curious to see how the NCAA reacts to this. Sioux Falls has hosted numerous NCAA events including this year's Summit League Men's and Women's BB Tournaments. North Carolina lost several NCAA events due to their transgender bathroom law, so there could be similar repercussions for South Dakota.



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Post by Cataholic » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:40 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:13 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:46 pm
Sex education in Kindergarten. I would love to hear some of our liberal posters try to defend this one. Better yet, it would be refreshing to see some of those liberals express disappointment in such legislation.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/06/ny-lawmak ... tners/amp/
Legislation sponsored by state Sen. Samra G. Brouk, a freshman Democrat from Rochester, would tie New York’s health curriculum to standards written by a left-wing interest group that advocates “Sex Ed for Social Change” — and would make those lessons mandatory statewide.

Under that group’s current standards, public and charter schools would have to teach 5-year-olds about “gender identity” and instruct 8-year-olds on hormone blockers to prevent puberty in transgender-identifying preteens.

Kids as young as 11 would get lectures on “vaginal, oral, and anal sex”; study “queer, two-spirit, asexual, pansexual” and other gender identities; and receive explicit instruction on the use of external and internal condoms, dental dams and other contraceptives.
Sex education, another wedge issue to keep the right and left middle classers from ever joining together to form a moderate middle class party. Throw it in there with guns, abortion, ...
Should this be a wedge issue? Specifically in this example? Do you agree with sex education in Kindergarten?



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