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Re: I have to thank the left for saving us.

Post by The Butcher » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:09 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:42 am
The Butcher wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:04 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:11 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:39 am
RickRund wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:48 am
And now the video game Fortnight will be removing Police cars due to sensitivity..... Have never seen the game but the last thing the game is worried about is being sensitive. More stupidity from the left.

Teddy Roosevelt being removed. Father Junipero Serra being torn down. U S Grant accused of being a slaveowner. Fact: he was given a slave by his father-in-law but released them. Could have sold them for $30000 in todays dollars but just released them...

What use is an education when true history is not being taught?
The left's current demonization of Police is not going to turn out well, for any of us.
That's a pretty broad statement. I don't think the left as a whole is demonizing the police. I'm sure the right will spin it that way, but that's not the case. The main thing the majority of the left is trying to do is get the police out of situations that they aren't trained for and sending in people that are more adept at handling it. There are many incidences where sending in social workers seems like the more appropriate measure. It's worth a look. Will it work all the time? Who knows. I know some policemen and have asked if those are situations that they'd rather stay out of and ALL of them have said yes. They've said that they have a couple guys on their forces that are good at that kind of thing, but they aren't always working or on-call and they don't necessarily like doing that kind of work, so it can get awkward for most of them. They added that those guys don't always arrive first and by then things have gotten screwy.
Painting the "left" as a one size fits all is the new Trump/GOP strategy. So what is the paint job since 2016? Fear mongering is the one and only strategy.

The left doesn't want police? That is an absolute lie. Hell, Biden said he doesn't support "defund the police". But here we go, fear mongering away...
No, its not a lie. There is a significant group of folks on the left who do not want police.
Here's an article for you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opin ... olice.html
You literally cut out the portion of my post that stated,
"There are degrees of what people think “defund the police” means, but overall it does mean reallocating funds in communities."
Pretty lame... I am always astonished how people can place a whole segment of our population into one bucket. But you have decided what "defund the police" means, what protesters believe (or as many right wing people say "rioters") and what BLM stands for. Good for you.



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Re: I have to thank the left for saving us.

Post by 91catAlum » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:34 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:09 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:42 am
The Butcher wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:04 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:11 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:39 am
RickRund wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:48 am
And now the video game Fortnight will be removing Police cars due to sensitivity..... Have never seen the game but the last thing the game is worried about is being sensitive. More stupidity from the left.

Teddy Roosevelt being removed. Father Junipero Serra being torn down. U S Grant accused of being a slaveowner. Fact: he was given a slave by his father-in-law but released them. Could have sold them for $30000 in todays dollars but just released them...

What use is an education when true history is not being taught?
The left's current demonization of Police is not going to turn out well, for any of us.
That's a pretty broad statement. I don't think the left as a whole is demonizing the police. I'm sure the right will spin it that way, but that's not the case. The main thing the majority of the left is trying to do is get the police out of situations that they aren't trained for and sending in people that are more adept at handling it. There are many incidences where sending in social workers seems like the more appropriate measure. It's worth a look. Will it work all the time? Who knows. I know some policemen and have asked if those are situations that they'd rather stay out of and ALL of them have said yes. They've said that they have a couple guys on their forces that are good at that kind of thing, but they aren't always working or on-call and they don't necessarily like doing that kind of work, so it can get awkward for most of them. They added that those guys don't always arrive first and by then things have gotten screwy.
Painting the "left" as a one size fits all is the new Trump/GOP strategy. So what is the paint job since 2016? Fear mongering is the one and only strategy.

The left doesn't want police? That is an absolute lie. Hell, Biden said he doesn't support "defund the police". But here we go, fear mongering away...
No, its not a lie. There is a significant group of folks on the left who do not want police.
Here's an article for you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opin ... olice.html
You literally cut out the portion of my post that stated,
"There are degrees of what people think “defund the police” means, but overall it does mean reallocating funds in communities."
Pretty lame... I am always astonished how people can place a whole segment of our population into one bucket. But you have decided what "defund the police" means, what protesters believe (or as many right wing people say "rioters") and what BLM stands for. Good for you.
I didn't put all democrats into 1 bucket. I said "significant group of folks on the left".


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Re: I have to thank the left for saving us.

Post by ilovethecats » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:41 pm

Man.

We. NEED. Sports.

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Re: I have to thank the left for saving us.

Post by Cataholic » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:16 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:04 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:11 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:39 am
RickRund wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:48 am
And now the video game Fortnight will be removing Police cars due to sensitivity..... Have never seen the game but the last thing the game is worried about is being sensitive. More stupidity from the left.

Teddy Roosevelt being removed. Father Junipero Serra being torn down. U S Grant accused of being a slaveowner. Fact: he was given a slave by his father-in-law but released them. Could have sold them for $30000 in todays dollars but just released them...

What use is an education when true history is not being taught?
The left's current demonization of Police is not going to turn out well, for any of us.
That's a pretty broad statement. I don't think the left as a whole is demonizing the police. I'm sure the right will spin it that way, but that's not the case. The main thing the majority of the left is trying to do is get the police out of situations that they aren't trained for and sending in people that are more adept at handling it. There are many incidences where sending in social workers seems like the more appropriate measure. It's worth a look. Will it work all the time? Who knows. I know some policemen and have asked if those are situations that they'd rather stay out of and ALL of them have said yes. They've said that they have a couple guys on their forces that are good at that kind of thing, but they aren't always working or on-call and they don't necessarily like doing that kind of work, so it can get awkward for most of them. They added that those guys don't always arrive first and by then things have gotten screwy.
Painting the "left" as a one size fits all is the new Trump/GOP strategy. So what is the paint job since 2016? Fear mongering is the one and only strategy.

The left doesn't want police? That is an absolute lie. Hell, Biden said he doesn't support "defund the police". But here we go, fear mongering away...

The real issue behind defund the police is not demonizing law enforcement, but rather how resources are distributed in a community. There are degrees of what people think “defund the police” means, but overall it does mean reallocating funds in communities. A family member of mine works in mental health. They have a master's degree in mental health. They work with the police weekly. The police call their office when it is a mental health crisis. The police want their office to be funded to keep getting support from the staff in mental health related crises. So ensuring the funding to their organization is desired by law enforcement and the community. Unfortunately some communities just place that challenge on the police department, who are often times ill-equipped to handle those situations. So the idea is having that money taken out of one pot and put into other pots to better serve the community and help the police be more effective by focusing their efforts into areas they are properly trained. I believe most people would feel that this approach would be effective and reasonable.
You are accusing the right of fear mongering?? That is golden!!! Have you paid attention to what the left has been up to with Covid, riots, demonetization, boycotts, Russia, etc. The left invented that playbook!

And do a little research on defund the police. A very large portion on the left wants to see the police go away. What is amazing is that the moderate liberal is afraid to challenge AOC’s opinions.



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Re: I have to thank the left for saving us.

Post by Cataholic » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:52 am

This is pretty amazing. Rep Eleanor Holmes Norton has been vocal on defund the police. She is with liberal reporter Andrea Mitchel when they are almost attacked by a protestor. There security detail handles the threat, but you can hear Norton say “where are the police when you need them”.



Someone should ask her how police presence and response times will be affected if the police are defunded.



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Re: I have to thank the left for saving us.

Post by 91catAlum » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:43 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:52 am
This is pretty amazing. Rep Eleanor Holmes Norton has been vocal on defund the police. She is with liberal reporter Andrea Mitchel when they are almost attacked by a protestor. There security detail handles the threat, but you can hear Norton say “where are the police when you need them”.

Someone should ask her how police presence and response times will be affected if the police are defunded.
"where are the police when you need them" LOL!!! that is pure gold!


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Re: I have to thank the left for saving us.

Post by codecat » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:24 pm

iaafan wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:29 am
RickRund wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:32 am
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Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:03 am
Now they are renaming schools that were named after Washington and Jefferson. When does it go too far?
They are not close to being done. The cricket are very busy though with the karl marx statue in seattle.
Washington and Jefferson were slave owners. So if that's why they're being changed, then why would we have a problem with it? If someone was renaming those schools because they don't think Washington or Jefferson helped us form the country, that'd be different, but that's not the case. If the state of Washington wants to rename its state because Washington owned slaves, then so be it. There are instances where minorities are OK with leaving names as they are, so why not let them make the determination. Florida State's nickname is the Seminoles and the Seminole Indians of that are proud to have the team named for them. If that's the case, that's OK, too. Every situation is unique and can't be addressed individually.
This is typical leftist behavior - find the flaw in the character of any human being, then use the power of the press that you own to ruin their reputation, take them down, or erase them from history, but Never cite the good contributions to society their targets have made. They have learned from Marx and Saul Alinsky well!


Socialism - the financial model historically used to control the masses! It has noting to do with
freedom, and seriously erodes the primary constitutional freedom of free enterprise.

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