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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by catatac » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:05 am

Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:18 pm
Cataholic wrote:
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Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:57 pm
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Does this mean that there is a liberal left bias in mainstream and social media? Did these companies censor articles or postings when breaking news on Trump comes through?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/ ... -york-post

https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-n ... ream-media
It is a pretty scary scenario. I would like to see how this looks in a couple more days. If it looks shaky to facelessbook that is good enough for me :D :D

Just why I like Parler...
Word from the Biden people is that they checked with the Biden people and can confirm that the Biden people have done no wrong. Carry on.
This is a drastic difference from the Trump article in The Atlantic and the unauthorized release of Trump tax information. Those were leading stories across the country despite the questionable sources, but there was a concerted effort to censor any mention of the Biden story today. White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany was actually locked out of her Twitter account today so she couldn’t tweet about it. It is amazing that people can claim there is no bias!
This is truly unbelievable! There are well over 100 stories on the front page of cnn.com. NOT ONE ARTICLE IS ON THE BIDEN STORY OR THE RELATED CENSORSHIP OF THE STORY! I guess CNN is an active participant in the censorship.

Even more incredulous is that there are over 30 stories critical of Trump or the Republican Party.

And to add onto the bias, there is a nice article about Biden bringing in record fundraising last month.
This should not surprise anyone. CNN is 100% anti Trump and has literally NEVER allowed an article to be released that will put him in a good light.


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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by RickRund » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:54 am

catatac wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:05 am
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:18 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:00 pm
Rich K wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:32 pm
RickRund wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:57 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:40 pm
Does this mean that there is a liberal left bias in mainstream and social media? Did these companies censor articles or postings when breaking news on Trump comes through?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/ ... -york-post

https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-n ... ream-media
It is a pretty scary scenario. I would like to see how this looks in a couple more days. If it looks shaky to facelessbook that is good enough for me :D :D

Just why I like Parler...
Word from the Biden people is that they checked with the Biden people and can confirm that the Biden people have done no wrong. Carry on.
This is a drastic difference from the Trump article in The Atlantic and the unauthorized release of Trump tax information. Those were leading stories across the country despite the questionable sources, but there was a concerted effort to censor any mention of the Biden story today. White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany was actually locked out of her Twitter account today so she couldn’t tweet about it. It is amazing that people can claim there is no bias!
This is truly unbelievable! There are well over 100 stories on the front page of cnn.com. NOT ONE ARTICLE IS ON THE BIDEN STORY OR THE RELATED CENSORSHIP OF THE STORY! I guess CNN is an active participant in the censorship.

Even more incredulous is that there are over 30 stories critical of Trump or the Republican Party.

And to add onto the bias, there is a nice article about Biden bringing in record fundraising last month.
This should not surprise anyone. CNN is 100% anti Trump and has literally NEVER allowed an article to be released that will put him in a good light.
And Candace Owens entire site is flagged by facelessbook. Wondering if huffpo, slate, nyt, young turks, etc have been flagged. Looking for one dependentocrat site that has been banned or one story that has been flagged.

Don't remember the term but Dan Bongino's podcast was being "throttled" by youtube. They would not release the full podcast for 24 hours. He was also having issues with twitterpatter so he went to Parler AND bought into Rumble.com where he can stream unfettered.

Please don't say the media is unbiased with a straight face...



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:57 am

Butch, Joe Bobcat, iaa, LCH - Lets for one second assume that this information is questionable. Did Twitter, Facebook or CNN censor any of the questionable stories in the past three months regarding Trump? At a minimum, you guys have to acknowledge that there is a complete media system set to favor/protect liberals and attack conservatives.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by LCH » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:12 am

There is one candidate in this race who is an avowed conspiracy theorist. If he would stop retweeting conspiracy theories, maybe just stop tweeting altogether, he would be in a much better position. I know the Trump supporters love to whine about how abused he is by the media but he brings it on himself. The Post article has so many flaws that at the very least the validity of the claims should be fact checked.

I am not a liberal but I view Trump as a danger to our Democracy and to our place in the world. He is grasping at straws at this point and in my view gets scarier every day.

What questionable stories regarding Trump are you referring to? There are several conservative media outlets that spend their time bashing so called socialist liberals and I think it balances out.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:44 am

LCH wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:12 am
There is one candidate in this race who is an avowed conspiracy theorist. If he would stop retweeting conspiracy theories, maybe just stop tweeting altogether, he would be in a much better position. I know the Trump supporters love to whine about how abused he is by the media but he brings it on himself. The Post article has so many flaws that at the very least the validity of the claims should be fact checked.

I am not a liberal but I view Trump as a danger to our Democracy and to our place in the world. He is grasping at straws at this point and in my view gets scarier every day.

What questionable stories regarding Trump are you referring to? There are several conservative media outlets that spend their time bashing so called socialist liberals and I think it balances out.
The article by the Atlantic regarding Trump comments in France is one. Despite 20+ credible sources saying it did not happen, the media treated it like Watergate.

And isn’t it possible that some of the conspiracies are actually true? For example, doesn’t it appear that Democrats paid for the Steele dossier (which was loaded with false information on Trump) and that false document was then used to obtain orders to investigate the Trump campaign. And how about Hilary and her destroying the mail servers? Doesn’t that seem 100% plausible? Wouldn’t a regular person go to jail for that offense?

I agree Trump needs to stop tweeting, but your defense of the media that “he brought it on himself” makes no sense. I thought the media was supposed to report the stories, not provide commentary on them. And don’t your comment “he brought it on himself” support the fact that he is getting different treatment?



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by LCH » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:56 am

I find the Trump comments about service members made in France to be credible based on his comments about Senator McCain and his treatment by Trump before and after his death.

OK I'll agree there is media bias and that it goes both ways.

Again, my position towards Trump is based on what he has actually said and done. Things that have come out of his mouth or twitter account, not the media.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by The Butcher » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:59 am

LCH wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:12 am
There is one candidate in this race who is an avowed conspiracy theorist. If he would stop retweeting conspiracy theories, maybe just stop tweeting altogether, he would be in a much better position. I know the Trump supporters love to whine about how abused he is by the media but he brings it on himself. The Post article has so many flaws that at the very least the validity of the claims should be fact checked.

I am not a liberal but I view Trump as a danger to our Democracy and to our place in the world. He is grasping at straws at this point and in my view gets scarier every day.

What questionable stories regarding Trump are you referring to? There are several conservative media outlets that spend their time bashing so called socialist liberals and I think it balances out.
This one was really odd. I guess at this point Trump is throwing every conspiracy theory at the wall hoping one will stick and help him?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/1 ... ory-429428



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:05 pm

LCH wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:56 am
I find the Trump comments about service members made in France to be credible based on his comments about Senator McCain and his treatment by Trump before and after his death.

OK I'll agree there is media bias and that it goes both ways.

Again, my position towards Trump is based on what he has actually said and done. Things that have come out of his mouth or twitter account, not the media.
I am not going to change your mind about the Trump comments in France because you don’t like Trump. However, of those 20+ witnesses that said the comments never happened, some of them despise the president including John Bolton.

It is also interesting that you will discredit the NYP Biden article yesterday (despite Hunter Biden’s shady history - isn’t that why you won’t believe Trump), but you believe the Atlantic article which had only anonymous sources. Is it possible that the biased media coverage has actually affected your opinion on the matter?



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by The Butcher » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:17 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:05 pm
LCH wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:56 am
I find the Trump comments about service members made in France to be credible based on his comments about Senator McCain and his treatment by Trump before and after his death.

OK I'll agree there is media bias and that it goes both ways.

Again, my position towards Trump is based on what he has actually said and done. Things that have come out of his mouth or twitter account, not the media.
I am not going to change your mind about the Trump comments in France because you don’t like Trump. However, of those 20+ witnesses that said the comments never happened, some of them despise the president including John Bolton.

It is also interesting that you will discredit the NYP Biden article yesterday (despite Hunter Biden’s shady history - isn’t that why you won’t believe Trump), but you believe the Atlantic article which had only anonymous sources. Is it possible that the biased media coverage has actually affected your opinion on the matter?
Have you actually read the NYP article? It doesn't take much to realize this is a sloppy fake smear campaign. I mean come on, the computer guy calls the FBI and Giuliani shows up... Not to mention the Giuliani camp isn't very tech savvy to know how to hack into a computer. :lol:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 47078.html



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by LCH » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:18 pm

Did you listen to the interview with the guy that supposedly received the laptop? Also Hunter Biden isn't running for President.



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Post by Joe Bobcat » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:41 pm

LCH your response above fits very closely with my thoughts. My circle of friends who know me best know that I'm so squarely in the middle of the conservative ----me---- liberal spectrum that it is impossible to accurately label me as one or the other. It sometimes feels like a lonely place to be but on the other hand both sides come to learn and know that I'll not just toe some party line and will call BS on either side when appropriate. I don't expect anyone from a long distance ie. on an internet chat room/board to accept those statements but that's not my problem. Believe me or not, it's your choice.


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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:55 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:17 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:05 pm
LCH wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:56 am
I find the Trump comments about service members made in France to be credible based on his comments about Senator McCain and his treatment by Trump before and after his death.

OK I'll agree there is media bias and that it goes both ways.

Again, my position towards Trump is based on what he has actually said and done. Things that have come out of his mouth or twitter account, not the media.
I am not going to change your mind about the Trump comments in France because you don’t like Trump. However, of those 20+ witnesses that said the comments never happened, some of them despise the president including John Bolton.

It is also interesting that you will discredit the NYP Biden article yesterday (despite Hunter Biden’s shady history - isn’t that why you won’t believe Trump), but you believe the Atlantic article which had only anonymous sources. Is it possible that the biased media coverage has actually affected your opinion on the matter?
Have you actually read the NYP article? It doesn't take much to realize this is a sloppy fake smear campaign. I mean come on, the computer guy calls the FBI and Giuliani shows up... Not to mention the Giuliani camp isn't very tech savvy to know how to hack into a computer. :lol:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 47078.html
I realize that you don’t have the actual details because it has been largely censored by the mainstream, but you really have to quit making statements that just aren’t true.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter ... -mac-isaac

Oh by the way, Biden’s team is now saying that maybe the VP had an unofficial casual meeting with this guy. In other words, it was off the books.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/biden-cam ... edule/amp/
Later in the day, the campaign — along with advisors to Biden when he was VP — admitted to Politico is was possible the two met back then, but claimed it would have been merely in passing.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:07 pm

LCH wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:18 pm
Did you listen to the interview with the guy that supposedly received the laptop? Also Hunter Biden isn't running for President.
Joe Biden was VP at the time and he would have met with a foreign Ukrainian agent - and off the books!

Who knows where this goes (or even if it legitimate), but none of you can dispute the fact that the media has treated this way differently than any Trump stories. And unfortunately, that media is making a huge impact on the election by choosing what to report based on their liberal agenda.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by LCH » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:24 pm

Hmmm, I'm guessing you had no problem with the media handing Trump the election in 2016. On October 28, 2016, days before the election, Comey notified Congress that the FBI had started looking into newly discovered emails. On November 6, Comey notified Congress that the FBI had not changed its original conclusion.[5] Comey's timing was contentious, with critics saying that he had violated Department of Justice guidelines and precedent, and prejudiced the public against Clinton.[6] The controversy received more media coverage than any other topic during the presidential campaign. This is from wikipedia.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:26 pm

LCH wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:24 pm
Hmmm, I'm guessing you had no problem with the media handing Trump the election in 2016. On October 28, 2016, days before the election, Comey notified Congress that the FBI had started looking into newly discovered emails. On November 6, Comey notified Congress that the FBI had not changed its original conclusion.[5] Comey's timing was contentious, with critics saying that he had violated Department of Justice guidelines and precedent, and prejudiced the public against Clinton.[6] The controversy received more media coverage than any other topic during the presidential campaign. This is from wikipedia.
They reported the news! That is what they are supposed to do!



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by LCH » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:34 pm

Exactly! Unless it involves Trump then it's media bias.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by iaafan » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:55 pm

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/1 ... -for-biden

Rudy Giuliani’s daughter voting for Biden.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:38 pm

LCH wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:34 pm
Exactly! Unless it involves Trump then it's media bias.
Do you remember what started this discussion? The complete ignoring and censoring of the Biden story? It is not that complicated.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by RickRund » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:48 pm

LCH wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:24 pm
Hmmm, I'm guessing you had no problem with the media handing Trump the election in 2016. On October 28, 2016, days before the election, Comey notified Congress that the FBI had started looking into newly discovered emails. On November 6, Comey notified Congress that the FBI had not changed its original conclusion.[5] Comey's timing was contentious, with critics saying that he had violated Department of Justice guidelines and precedent, and prejudiced the public against Clinton.[6] The controversy received more media coverage than any other topic during the presidential campaign. This is from wikipedia.
I believe that might be in July of 2016...



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by The Butcher » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:14 am

I think everyone knew Trump would say some wacky stuff last night, but this QAnon was REALLY out there (but not surprising). Somehow POTUS doesn't know about QAnon, so he can not denounce them? I guess it falls in line with not knowing who David Duke was in 2015.

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