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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Rich K » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:44 pm

RickRund wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:10 pm
Rich K wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:42 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:26 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I didn't know Hunter Biden was the President of the United States and had to follow Federal ethic laws.
I'm sure whatever Hunter was payed it was worth it to Ukraine because access to Odumbo and Biden was very valuable.
hunter needed two waivers to get into the reseves, age and a previous drug issue. It is not the first time he needed a waiver.
NO, I really don't think he was qualified...
It wasn't about Hunter. He was simply the laundromat for access to the billions of dollars to US money. Hunter "Laundry Boy" Biden.


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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by hokeyfine » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am

Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am

hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by wbtfg » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:08 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.
I always get confused about when to be mad about something that looks bad and when to ignore and/or attack the messenger on something that looks bad.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:37 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:08 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.
I always get confused about when to be mad about something that looks bad and when to ignore and/or attack the messenger on something that looks bad.
Not quite sure what you mean?? This looks bad so you don’t know if you should be mad or ignore??😂😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by wbtfg » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:40 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:37 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:08 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.
I always get confused about when to be mad about something that looks bad and when to ignore and/or attack the messenger on something that looks bad.
Not quite sure what you mean?? This looks bad so you don’t know if you should be mad or ignore??😂😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Exactly.....should I get mad at everything that "looks bad" or are there times when I should ignore? It sure seems like it depends on the letter after the persons last name.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:45 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:40 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:37 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:08 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.
I always get confused about when to be mad about something that looks bad and when to ignore and/or attack the messenger on something that looks bad.
Not quite sure what you mean?? This looks bad so you don’t know if you should be mad or ignore??😂😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Exactly.....should I get mad at everything that "looks bad" or are there times when I should ignore? It sure seems like it depends on the letter after the persons last name.
Glad you admit it! There should be an asterisk by every post made as to which party you support.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by hokeyfine » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:57 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.
So what you're saying is that because conservative media says it looks bad then for sure a crime has been committed.
And aren't Trump's kids and spouses employed by him and the RNC and influencing policy?



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:26 pm

hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:57 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.
So what you're saying is that because conservative media says it looks bad then for sure a crime has been committed.
And aren't Trump's kids and spouses employed by him and the RNC and influencing policy?
Do a google search. Plenty of liberal publications said it looked bad. Here are two examples, including the liberal stalwart New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/p ... raine.html

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12 ... fying.html

As for Trumps kids, I fail to see any resemblance to the Biden Burisma situation. Joe Biden used his political power to terminate a Ukrainian investigator who was investigating Hunters company for corruption.

You will also find that Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner forego any compensation from the White House to act as advisors to Trump.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/01/the-hig ... -2019.html



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by hokeyfine » Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:52 am

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:26 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:57 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.
So what you're saying is that because conservative media says it looks bad then for sure a crime has been committed.
And aren't Trump's kids and spouses employed by him and the RNC and influencing policy?
Do a google search. Plenty of liberal publications said it looked bad. Here are two examples, including the liberal stalwart New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/p ... raine.html

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12 ... fying.html

As for Trumps kids, I fail to see any resemblance to the Biden Burisma situation. Joe Biden used his political power to terminate a Ukrainian investigator who was investigating Hunters company for corruption.

You will also find that Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner forego any compensation from the White House to act as advisors to Trump.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/01/the-hig ... -2019.html
So again, what you're saying is that because something looks inappropriate there MUST be a crime. So please provide the direct evidence that a crime was committed. Doesn't this sound familiar? You're using the same arguments that liberals used in the trump impeachment.



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by hokeyfine » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:01 am

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:26 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:57 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.
So what you're saying is that because conservative media says it looks bad then for sure a crime has been committed.
And aren't Trump's kids and spouses employed by him and the RNC and influencing policy?
Do a google search. Plenty of liberal publications said it looked bad. Here are two examples, including the liberal stalwart New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/p ... raine.html

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12 ... fying.html

As for Trumps kids, I fail to see any resemblance to the Biden Burisma situation. Joe Biden used his political power to terminate a Ukrainian investigator who was investigating Hunters company for corruption.

You will also find that Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner forego any compensation from the White House to act as advisors to Trump.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/01/the-hig ... -2019.html
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/05/factc ... interview/



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:50 pm

hokeyfine wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:52 am
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:26 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:57 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.
So what you're saying is that because conservative media says it looks bad then for sure a crime has been committed.
And aren't Trump's kids and spouses employed by him and the RNC and influencing policy?
Do a google search. Plenty of liberal publications said it looked bad. Here are two examples, including the liberal stalwart New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/p ... raine.html

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12 ... fying.html

As for Trumps kids, I fail to see any resemblance to the Biden Burisma situation. Joe Biden used his political power to terminate a Ukrainian investigator who was investigating Hunters company for corruption.

You will also find that Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner forego any compensation from the White House to act as advisors to Trump.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/01/the-hig ... -2019.html
So again, what you're saying is that because something looks inappropriate there MUST be a crime. So please provide the direct evidence that a crime was committed. Doesn't this sound familiar? You're using the same arguments that liberals used in the trump impeachment.
That is a reasonable position. But did Biden have a Congressional investigation anywhere near the size and scope of Trumps Russia investigation? Did the mainstream media provide the same amount of scrutiny on Biden as they did with Trump?



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by RickRund » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:01 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:50 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:52 am
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:26 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:57 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
hokeyfine wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:25 am
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm
hokeyfine wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
The Butcher wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:37 am
Ethic laws do NOT apply to Trump!
He doesn't believe in ethics!
So, it is unethical for Trump to pose for a picture with the products of the largest Hispanic owned food producer in the country. Yet, you are okay with Joe Biden’s son getting an $80,000 per month job at a Ukrainian company despite having no experience. Got it!
He didn't get $80,000 per month. And who's to say he wasn't qualified for the position. I worked for a biotech who's corporate lawyer had previously worked for Kraft cheese.
Do you really want to have this discussion? Hunter Biden was just kicked off the Military reserves for testing positive for cocaine use. He then gets a board position on a Ukrainian oil company where he was paid over $700,000 in payments that ranged from $10,000 to $150,000 per month. Assuming your $50,000 per month, that is annual compensation of $600,000 for a board member. Burisma is 2% of the size of Exxon, yet Exxon board members are paid an average of $365,000 per year. The average S&P 500 board member in energy is paid about $213,000 annually. Companies the size of Burisma normally pay about $55,000 to $83,000 for a board position.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/27/hu ... pensation/

By the way, Hunter had ZERO experience in the energy industry. ZERO! He also never stepped foot in Ukraine during his tenure as a Burisma board member. Which I could get a job like that!
So hunter bidens crime is that he made too much money because according to you and a conservative news article he was unqualified for the position.
Seriously? Are you really willing to look past the facts on this? There are a thousand articles on how bad this looks. Even Biden’s own team said it looked bad. If your liberal thinking is okay with this, any family member of any high level politician is in line for a nice payday. Even more blatant was Joe Biden publicly bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired that was investigating Hunter.
So what you're saying is that because conservative media says it looks bad then for sure a crime has been committed.
And aren't Trump's kids and spouses employed by him and the RNC and influencing policy?
Do a google search. Plenty of liberal publications said it looked bad. Here are two examples, including the liberal stalwart New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/p ... raine.html

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12 ... fying.html

As for Trumps kids, I fail to see any resemblance to the Biden Burisma situation. Joe Biden used his political power to terminate a Ukrainian investigator who was investigating Hunters company for corruption.

You will also find that Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner forego any compensation from the White House to act as advisors to Trump.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/01/the-hig ... -2019.html
So again, what you're saying is that because something looks inappropriate there MUST be a crime. So please provide the direct evidence that a crime was committed. Doesn't this sound familiar? You're using the same arguments that liberals used in the trump impeachment.
That is a reasonable position. But did Biden have a Congressional investigation anywhere near the size and scope of Trumps Russia investigation? Did the mainstream media provide the same amount of scrutiny on Biden as they did with Trump?
biden who?



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by The Butcher » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:07 am

TRUMP GETS NAILED BY FOX NEWS!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:




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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by 77matcat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:23 am

Shouldn’t you drop the Biden push to have Shokin fired?? Everybody wanted Shokin out because he was corrupt.

Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations pushed for Shokin to be fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

Oh wait. I forgot there was an international plot against him.

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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by 77matcat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:25 am

45 set the record straight.

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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by 77matcat » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:25 am

45 set the record straight on Fox News.

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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by wbtfg » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:31 am



Wow



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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by 77matcat » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:30 am

Very impressive.

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Re: Please joe, you have embarrassed yourself enough

Post by Cataholic » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:50 am

wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:31 am


Wow
You lefties are really desperate for material. Can you imagine Biden’s response in that test? He would ask which question 10 times and then respond with something about his good friend Obama hoping that would suffice.



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