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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by RickRund » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:46 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:51 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:45 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:26 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:03 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:20 pm
Here we go. It just keeps getting better and better....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/defeat-covid ... 19183.html
Been going on for years...


http://content.time.com/time/nation/art ... 65,00.html
I don’t know what vaccinations have to do with seatbelts. I personally would not be in favor of being required to be vaccinated. I suppose I could be in the minority on that one?
Never had a flu shot. Will not get the vaccine.
I bet I know of a situation where you'd get the vaccine.
What is thst? Where I am forced?



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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by RickRund » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:48 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:47 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:31 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:45 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:03 pm
I'm curious....what are people's thoughts on holding Sturgis?

I would imagine their will be a good sized contingency from Montana there partying alongside folks from around the country.
Selfish and irresponsible.
A friend of mine who is there this week would tell you he's celebrating his freedom as an American.
I guess my definition of freedom wouldn’t include the right to place others at risk or create undue harm to others.
Everyone that travels to Sturgis, attends is there by their own choice.



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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:04 pm

RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:46 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:51 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:45 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:26 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:03 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:20 pm
Here we go. It just keeps getting better and better....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/defeat-covid ... 19183.html
Been going on for years...


http://content.time.com/time/nation/art ... 65,00.html
I don’t know what vaccinations have to do with seatbelts. I personally would not be in favor of being required to be vaccinated. I suppose I could be in the minority on that one?
Never had a flu shot. Will not get the vaccine.
I bet I know of a situation where you'd get the vaccine.
What is thst? Where I am forced?
Nope. When they say you can't get into the Bobcat' game without showing proof of vaccination. :wink:


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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by RickRund » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:25 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:04 pm
RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:46 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:51 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:45 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:26 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:03 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:20 pm
Here we go. It just keeps getting better and better....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/defeat-covid ... 19183.html
Been going on for years...


http://content.time.com/time/nation/art ... 65,00.html
I don’t know what vaccinations have to do with seatbelts. I personally would not be in favor of being required to be vaccinated. I suppose I could be in the minority on that one?
Never had a flu shot. Will not get the vaccine.
I bet I know of a situation where you'd get the vaccine.
What is thst? Where I am forced?
Nope. When they say you can't get into the Bobcat' game without showing proof of vaccination. :wink:
Don't even say that :) :) That would be a tough one.



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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:36 pm

RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:25 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:04 pm
RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:46 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:51 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:45 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:26 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:03 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:20 pm
Here we go. It just keeps getting better and better....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/defeat-covid ... 19183.html
Been going on for years...


http://content.time.com/time/nation/art ... 65,00.html
I don’t know what vaccinations have to do with seatbelts. I personally would not be in favor of being required to be vaccinated. I suppose I could be in the minority on that one?
Never had a flu shot. Will not get the vaccine.
I bet I know of a situation where you'd get the vaccine.
What is thst? Where I am forced?
Nope. When they say you can't get into the Bobcat' game without showing proof of vaccination. :wink:
Don't even say that :) :) That would be a tough one.
C'mon man, you know I gotcha!! :lol:


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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by Joe Bobcat » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:52 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:36 pm
RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:25 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:04 pm
RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:46 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:51 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:45 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:26 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:03 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:20 pm
Here we go. It just keeps getting better and better....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/defeat-covid ... 19183.html
Been going on for years...


http://content.time.com/time/nation/art ... 65,00.html
I don’t know what vaccinations have to do with seatbelts. I personally would not be in favor of being required to be vaccinated. I suppose I could be in the minority on that one?
Never had a flu shot. Will not get the vaccine.
I bet I know of a situation where you'd get the vaccine.
What is thst? Where I am forced?
Nope. When they say you can't get into the Bobcat' game without showing proof of vaccination. :wink:
Don't even say that :) :) That would be a tough one.
C'mon man, you know I gotcha!! :lol:
Yeah you probably do have him but any type of requirement like that is sure to create a robust fake documentation black market industry so there's that or hunt for the ?right? doctor to give you documentation for a price of coarse.
I'll most likely get the vaccine if I don't already have the antibodies by then. I recently received results back that showed me negative for antibodies.


I have reached a point in my life where I feel nothing almost all of the time that I am alive. It's very empowering. --- Colter Nuanez - adopted as a credo by Joe Bobcat because it fits so well

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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by Cataholic » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:43 am

Joe Bobcat wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:36 pm
RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:25 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:04 pm
RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:46 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:51 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:45 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:26 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:03 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:20 pm
Here we go. It just keeps getting better and better....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/defeat-covid ... 19183.html
Been going on for years...


http://content.time.com/time/nation/art ... 65,00.html
I don’t know what vaccinations have to do with seatbelts. I personally would not be in favor of being required to be vaccinated. I suppose I could be in the minority on that one?
Never had a flu shot. Will not get the vaccine.
I bet I know of a situation where you'd get the vaccine.
What is thst? Where I am forced?
Nope. When they say you can't get into the Bobcat' game without showing proof of vaccination. :wink:
Don't even say that :) :) That would be a tough one.
C'mon man, you know I gotcha!! :lol:
Yeah you probably do have him but any type of requirement like that is sure to create a robust fake documentation black market industry so there's that or hunt for the ?right? doctor to give you documentation for a price of coarse.
I'll most likely get the vaccine if I don't already have the antibodies by then. I recently received results back that showed me negative for antibodies.
Where did you get antibody tests? Was it a blood test?



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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by Cataholic » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:46 am

RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:48 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:47 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:31 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:45 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:03 pm
I'm curious....what are people's thoughts on holding Sturgis?

I would imagine their will be a good sized contingency from Montana there partying alongside folks from around the country.
Selfish and irresponsible.
A friend of mine who is there this week would tell you he's celebrating his freedom as an American.
I guess my definition of freedom wouldn’t include the right to place others at risk or create undue harm to others.
Everyone that travels to Sturgis, attends is there by their own choice.
Your right. And like I said earlier, they are being selfish and irresponsible. There is a greater health concern to our population right now than attending a biker party.



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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by Joe Bobcat » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:59 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:43 am
Joe Bobcat wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:36 pm
RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:25 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:04 pm
RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:46 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:51 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:45 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:26 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:03 pm


Been going on for years...


http://content.time.com/time/nation/art ... 65,00.html
I don’t know what vaccinations have to do with seatbelts. I personally would not be in favor of being required to be vaccinated. I suppose I could be in the minority on that one?
Never had a flu shot. Will not get the vaccine.
I bet I know of a situation where you'd get the vaccine.
What is thst? Where I am forced?
Nope. When they say you can't get into the Bobcat' game without showing proof of vaccination. :wink:
Don't even say that :) :) That would be a tough one.
C'mon man, you know I gotcha!! :lol:
Yeah you probably do have him but any type of requirement like that is sure to create a robust fake documentation black market industry so there's that or hunt for the ?right? doctor to give you documentation for a price of coarse.
I'll most likely get the vaccine if I don't already have the antibodies by then. I recently received results back that showed me negative for antibodies.
Where did you get antibody tests? Was it a blood test?
Sorry I've been gone all day. Now when you give blood at a red cross blood draw one of the tests they do on your donated blood is the test for antibodies to covid 19 and you can get those results sent right to your phone. Donating blood is very low cost - no cost to the donor and provides great value to the recipient of that donated blood. Perhaps immeasurable value.


I have reached a point in my life where I feel nothing almost all of the time that I am alive. It's very empowering. --- Colter Nuanez - adopted as a credo by Joe Bobcat because it fits so well

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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by Cataholic » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:50 am

Joe Bobcat wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:59 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:43 am
Joe Bobcat wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:36 pm
RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:25 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:04 pm
RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:46 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:51 pm
RickRund wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:45 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:26 pm

I don’t know what vaccinations have to do with seatbelts. I personally would not be in favor of being required to be vaccinated. I suppose I could be in the minority on that one?
Never had a flu shot. Will not get the vaccine.
I bet I know of a situation where you'd get the vaccine.
What is thst? Where I am forced?
Nope. When they say you can't get into the Bobcat' game without showing proof of vaccination. :wink:
Don't even say that :) :) That would be a tough one.
C'mon man, you know I gotcha!! :lol:
Yeah you probably do have him but any type of requirement like that is sure to create a robust fake documentation black market industry so there's that or hunt for the ?right? doctor to give you documentation for a price of coarse.
I'll most likely get the vaccine if I don't already have the antibodies by then. I recently received results back that showed me negative for antibodies.
Where did you get antibody tests? Was it a blood test?
Sorry I've been gone all day. Now when you give blood at a red cross blood draw one of the tests they do on your donated blood is the test for antibodies to covid 19 and you can get those results sent right to your phone. Donating blood is very low cost - no cost to the donor and provides great value to the recipient of that donated blood. Perhaps immeasurable value.
Thank you! That is great information and gives me a reason to give blood!



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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:15 pm

I haven't heard this discussed yet, but I wonder what kind of effect Covid deaths will have on flu deaths this flu season. I would think that a lot of would-be flu deaths have already been taken by Covid. That decrease, if there is one, could also be due to people protecting against Covid. I've read that flu cases are way down in the southern hemisphere where its season is coming off its peak.


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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by RickRund » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:21 am

Levin may be in danger of being sent to twitterpatter jail. You cannot go against "the TRUTH" police. Joe Pags has been banned for a month for two terrible obscene words, Hydrochloroquine works.....



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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

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RickRund wrote:
Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:21 am
Levin may be in danger of being sent to twitterpatter jail. You cannot go against "the TRUTH" police. Joe Pags has been banned for a month for two terrible obscene words, Hydrochloroquine works.....
My own browser (Google Chrome) is giving me a warning that the last 2 tweets are posted might be dangerous.


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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by The Butcher » Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:29 am

Rich- You obviously do not believe healthcare professionals or you have some type of stake in the drug. That doesn't change the fact that social media and MSM are NOT going to pedal this ineffective drug that can have severe side effects. Sorry buddy.



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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by Cataholic » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:52 am

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Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:29 am
Rich- You obviously do not believe healthcare professionals or you have some type of stake in the drug. That doesn't change the fact that social media and MSM are NOT going to pedal this ineffective drug that can have severe side effects. Sorry buddy.
You obsession that hydroxychloroquine cannot work is what is baffling. Rich showed some studies that it works and you automatically discount them as not accurate just because it was on social media. And what severe side effects are you talking about? This drug has been used for decades to treat malaria and lupus, but now it is unsafe?



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Re: Cure worse than the problem?

Post by The Butcher » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:03 am

Cataholic wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:52 am
The Butcher wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:29 am
Rich- You obviously do not believe healthcare professionals or you have some type of stake in the drug. That doesn't change the fact that social media and MSM are NOT going to pedal this ineffective drug that can have severe side effects. Sorry buddy.
You obsession that hydroxychloroquine cannot work is what is baffling. Rich showed some studies that it works and you automatically discount them as not accurate just because it was on social media. And what severe side effects are you talking about? This drug has been used for decades to treat malaria and lupus, but now it is unsafe?
Ummmmm the FDA... :? :shock: :?

July 1, 2020 Update: A summary of the FDA review of safety issues with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat hospitalized patients with COVID-19 is now available. This includes reports of serious heart rhythm problems and other safety issues, including blood and lymph system disorders, kidney injuries, and liver problems and failure.


June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.



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