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Vacancy tax passed in san fran

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:53 pm
by RickRund
So the voters in the city by the bay passed with 68.1% a measure to tax empty storefronts. Across the bay in oakland they passed a similar measure last November. This just shows the intelligence required to continue re-electing the nancy pelosi's, the barbara lee's of the world...

Re: Vacancy tax passed in san fran

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:31 pm
by codecat
RickRund wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:53 pm
So the voters in the city by the bay passed with 68.1% a measure to tax empty storefronts. Across the bay in oakland they passed a similar measure last November. This just shows the intelligence required to continue re-electing the nancy pelosi's, the barbara lee's of the world...
Empty storefronts are pervasive in San Francisco, and supporters of the tax hope it will help address the issue. While many blame the rise of online shopping for dwindling foot traffic, a Chronicle investigation into the shuttered sites showed the reasons extend beyond what has been called the Amazon effect. Many landlords and small businesses blame the retail sector’s woes on San Francisco’s arduous permit processes, high rents and soaring cost of doing business.
However one spins this - there is a cause and effect here - Leftist taxation and economic policies destroy one of the core freedoms of the constitution (i.e. free enterprise) which is at the heart of why our 200+ year experiment has succeeded so well.

Of course, if someone wants to control this country, all they have to do is control the economy and therein lies why the left has been pushing socialism by its policies for 40 years that I remember (I remember is starting out with the press bashing any corporation or enterprise that had did anything wrong to the point that the words "corporation" and "profit" have become a "bad word" in this country). They aren't quite ready for openly promoting that they are socialist as they don't feel they have control of enough young greedy minds to actually pull it off yes.) What they really have to offer is some from of statism whereby the government power surpasses the power of the people! Edit: I think one of the best examples of how well it doesn't work for them are the hippy colonies of the 60's that were such successful utopias that they all thrived to the point of extcinction.

They cannot come down on Jeff Bezos (of Amaxon) to hard as he is a major monetary supporter or the ultra left because he stands to be one of the in-crowd with a retail monopoly should they succeed.

Re: Vacancy tax passed in san fran

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:05 am
by iaafan
Well, I guess we’re all socialists then. In America, when capitalism doesn’t work, then we work together to make it better. This is why we have roads, water and sewer systems, homeowners associations, police, military, Medicare, social security, veteran’s healthcare, Medicaid.

Power companies, oil companies, large retail etc is doing well, so it remains capitalistic.

Insurance would be less expensive and fairer for most people and the country as a whole if it were socialized. It’ll eventually be socialized when people become more educated on it. Currently, insurance companies and medical professionals are taking advantage of the middle class. We’re going to look back on this similar to how we look back on slavery, not allowing women to vote and Native American genocide some day.

Re: Vacancy tax passed in san fran

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:28 am
by 91catAlum
iaafan wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:05 am

Insurance would be less expensive and fairer for most people and the country as a whole if it were socialized. It’ll eventually be socialized when people become more educated on it. Currently, insurance companies and medical professionals are taking advantage of the middle class. We’re going to look back on this similar to how we look back on slavery, not allowing women to vote and Native American genocide some day.
This is such a sad perspective, to equate paying for your own health care, to slavery and genocide. I understand the desire to socialize healthcare, believe me, but mindsets like this do us no good.

Re: Vacancy tax passed in san fran

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:04 pm
by iaafan
91catAlum wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:28 am
iaafan wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:05 am

Insurance would be less expensive and fairer for most people and the country as a whole if it were socialized. It’ll eventually be socialized when people become more educated on it. Currently, insurance companies and medical professionals are taking advantage of the middle class. We’re going to look back on this similar to how we look back on slavery, not allowing women to vote and Native American genocide some day.
This is such a sad perspective, to equate paying for your own health care, to slavery and genocide. I understand the desire to socialize healthcare, believe me, but mindsets like this do us no good.
You want sad? Harvard says 45,000 people die per year due to a lack of healthcare. Presidents and congress have known this for years. People die because of the way healthcare is done in the USA. People are less productive because of the way healthcare is done in the USA. We’re just shooting ourselves in the foot for the sake of what? I’d say it ranks right up there. Classic case of the super wealthy not caring about the lower and middle class.