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Cataholic
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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by TomCat88 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:19 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!
I like Trump as much as anyone, but Trump doesn’t believe Russia has done anything wrong despite all the US intel saying otherwise. He defends Russia and doesn’t reprimand them. Since that’s the case, Russia feels free to carry on with cyber attacks.

People complain about parents that defend their kids when they break rules and how those kids will just keep breaking rules as long as their parents keep defending them.

It’s like that.


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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:52 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:19 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!
I like Trump as much as anyone, but Trump doesn’t believe Russia has done anything wrong despite all the US intel saying otherwise. He defends Russia and doesn’t reprimand them. Since that’s the case, Russia feels free to carry on with cyber attacks.

People complain about parents that defend their kids when they break rules and how those kids will just keep breaking rules as long as their parents keep defending them.

It’s like that.
It would be nice if dealing with Russia was as easy as dealing with kids that keep breaking the rules. Unfortunately, Russia is a world power who has strong influence on international trade, specifically energy. One of the reasons that crude oil went negative was because Russia and Saudi got into a price war. That event earlier this year has actually has led to a number of US energy companies filing for bankruptcy.

If the Democrats get a completely green economy and the traditional US energy market collapses, Russia will gain market share and have wide reaching influence over Europe and the rest of the world. Trump understands how important the US energy industry is to keeping Russia in check economically and has been active on that front.

I do wish Trump was more vocal about some issues with Russia. At a minimum, he could deflate the rhetoric going around that he considers Russia an ally. He knows they are world threat.



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by wbtfg » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:58 pm

Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:19 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!
I like Trump as much as anyone, but Trump doesn’t believe Russia has done anything wrong despite all the US intel saying otherwise. He defends Russia and doesn’t reprimand them. Since that’s the case, Russia feels free to carry on with cyber attacks.

People complain about parents that defend their kids when they break rules and how those kids will just keep breaking rules as long as their parents keep defending them.

It’s like that.
It would be nice if dealing with Russia was as easy as dealing with kids that keep breaking the rules. Unfortunately, Russia is a world power who has strong influence on international trade, specifically energy. One of the reasons that crude oil went negative was because Russia and Saudi got into a price war. That event earlier this year has actually has led to a number of US energy companies filing for bankruptcy.

If the Democrats get a completely green economy and the traditional US energy market collapses, Russia will gain market share and have wide reaching influence over Europe and the rest of the world. Trump understands how important the US energy industry is to keeping Russia in check economically and has been active on that front.

I do wish Trump was more vocal about some issues with Russia. At a minimum, he could deflate the rhetoric going around that he considers Russia an ally. He knows they are world threat.
China also a world power who carries even more weight in world trade. The president and supporters have no problems holding them accountable. What’s the difference?



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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by codecat » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:13 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:58 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:19 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!
I like Trump as much as anyone, but Trump doesn’t believe Russia has done anything wrong despite all the US intel saying otherwise. He defends Russia and doesn’t reprimand them. Since that’s the case, Russia feels free to carry on with cyber attacks.

People complain about parents that defend their kids when they break rules and how those kids will just keep breaking rules as long as their parents keep defending them.

It’s like that.
It would be nice if dealing with Russia was as easy as dealing with kids that keep breaking the rules. Unfortunately, Russia is a world power who has strong influence on international trade, specifically energy. One of the reasons that crude oil went negative was because Russia and Saudi got into a price war. That event earlier this year has actually has led to a number of US energy companies filing for bankruptcy.

If the Democrats get a completely green economy and the traditional US energy market collapses, Russia will gain market share and have wide reaching influence over Europe and the rest of the world. Trump understands how important the US energy industry is to keeping Russia in check economically and has been active on that front.

I do wish Trump was more vocal about some issues with Russia. At a minimum, he could deflate the rhetoric going around that he considers Russia an ally. He knows they are world threat.
China also a world power who carries even more weight in world trade. The president and supporters have no problems holding them accountable. What’s the difference?
The American consumer has been giving China power by how he/she spends his/her dollars, and Obama made terrible trade deals with China (really designed to weaken the USA). The allegations that Russia has offered rewards to take out American servicemen has not been totally confirmed by US intelligence - I don't think I would want any President holding another country accountable for something that only the Leftist media machine says is true.


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Re: Soooooooo...Russia

Post by Cataholic » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:09 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:58 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:52 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:19 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:49 pm
Cataholic wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:05 am
Lots of reports of russian hackers attempting to steal vaccine research.
Since Russia is involved, I will bet Trump is behind it. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Trump probably has figured out a way to make money on the Russians having the vaccine.😳😳🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

What is your fixation on Russia? Every single adversarial country has a team of hackers working on the same thing. Guarantee that China, North Korea and others are doing the same. Why is it news to you that Russia is doing this?
Because the rent news reports of China hacking American computers attempting to steal vaccine data. There aren’t news reports of China putting bounties on American soldiers. If you can find those reports, you can certainly post them and I’d applaud you. I’m not sure why you (and many others) are so quick to redirect any criticism of Russia.
You have this passive-aggressive style of posting Russia stuff and implying it has something to do with Trump. I will be the first to tell you that Russia sucks! I just don’t see any connection to Trump. Since that is what is you are saying, I agree with you, Russia sucks!
I like Trump as much as anyone, but Trump doesn’t believe Russia has done anything wrong despite all the US intel saying otherwise. He defends Russia and doesn’t reprimand them. Since that’s the case, Russia feels free to carry on with cyber attacks.

People complain about parents that defend their kids when they break rules and how those kids will just keep breaking rules as long as their parents keep defending them.

It’s like that.
It would be nice if dealing with Russia was as easy as dealing with kids that keep breaking the rules. Unfortunately, Russia is a world power who has strong influence on international trade, specifically energy. One of the reasons that crude oil went negative was because Russia and Saudi got into a price war. That event earlier this year has actually has led to a number of US energy companies filing for bankruptcy.

If the Democrats get a completely green economy and the traditional US energy market collapses, Russia will gain market share and have wide reaching influence over Europe and the rest of the world. Trump understands how important the US energy industry is to keeping Russia in check economically and has been active on that front.

I do wish Trump was more vocal about some issues with Russia. At a minimum, he could deflate the rhetoric going around that he considers Russia an ally. He knows they are world threat.
China also a world power who carries even more weight in world trade. The president and supporters have no problems holding them accountable. What’s the difference?
The US is a huge buyer of Chinese products. Many of these products can be purchased from other countries and some could be probably be produced in the US (like steel). Given that US purchases $500+ billion in products from China, we use that as leverage in our foreign policy negotiable with them. We don’t have that same leverage with Russia.



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