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Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

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The notion that any foreign government would donate to the Clinton Foundation because they do good work is farcical. If the Russian government wanted "good work" done they'd do it themselves.

The only ONLY reason for the Russian government to give money to the Clinton Foundation is to buy influence. Period. No other reason. Those that think otherwise are stupid.


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Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:20 am
The notion that any foreign government would donate to the Clinton Foundation because they do good work is farcical. If the Russian government wanted "good work" done they'd do it themselves.

The only ONLY reason for the Russian government to give money to the Clinton Foundation is to buy influence. Period. No other reason. Those that think otherwise are stupid.
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Seems like the FBI and Trumps DOJ will definitely find some wrongdoing.


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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by Rich K » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:23 pm

Lots of companies in lots of countries paying lots of relatives of lots of politicians lots and lots of money for lots of influence.

When Trump won it blew it all up. Lots of money payed and the amount of influence disappearing into the ether.

This is the reason for what seems to be an insane reaction to President Trump's election.


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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by wbtfg » Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm

Thanks for bringing to our attention. If proven to valid, I think any politician, of either party, operating a corrupt foundation should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe the whistleblowers right to be remain anonymous and of said politician tries to intimidate or publicly releases the name of the whistleblower, they should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I assume we’re on the same page on this?



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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by Rich K » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:45 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm
Thanks for bringing to our attention. If proven to valid, I think any politician, of either party, operating a corrupt foundation should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe the whistleblowers right to be remain anonymous and of said politician tries to intimidate or publicly releases the name of the whistleblower, they should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I assume we’re on the same page on this?
There is no right of anonymity for a whistleblower.


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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by RickRund » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:13 pm

Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:45 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm
Thanks for bringing to our attention. If proven to valid, I think any politician, of either party, operating a corrupt foundation should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe the whistleblowers right to be remain anonymous and of said politician tries to intimidate or publicly releases the name of the whistleblower, they should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I assume we’re on the same page on this?
There is no right of anonymity for a whistleblower.
Correct, no right at all. The whistleblower in the impeachment should be on the stand to be interrogated...



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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by wbtfg » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:37 pm

RickRund wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:13 pm
Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:45 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm
Thanks for bringing to our attention. If proven to valid, I think any politician, of either party, operating a corrupt foundation should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe the whistleblowers right to be remain anonymous and of said politician tries to intimidate or publicly releases the name of the whistleblower, they should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I assume we’re on the same page on this?
There is no right of anonymity for a whistleblower.
Correct, no right at all. The whistleblower in the impeachment should be on the stand to be interrogated...
Should all whistle blowers be publicly outed and interrogated or does it depend on political party?



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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by wbtfg » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:46 pm

Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:45 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm
Thanks for bringing to our attention. If proven to valid, I think any politician, of either party, operating a corrupt foundation should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe the whistleblowers right to be remain anonymous and of said politician tries to intimidate or publicly releases the name of the whistleblower, they should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I assume we’re on the same page on this?
There is no right of anonymity for a whistleblower.
Correct. I should have said right to remain free from retaliation. Which is significantly jeopardized when publicly outed



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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by Rich K » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:36 pm

RickRund wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:13 pm
Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:45 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm
Thanks for bringing to our attention. If proven to valid, I think any politician, of either party, operating a corrupt foundation should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe the whistleblowers right to be remain anonymous and of said politician tries to intimidate or publicly releases the name of the whistleblower, they should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I assume we’re on the same page on this?
There is no right of anonymity for a whistleblower.
Correct, no right at all. The whistleblower in the impeachment should be on the stand to be interrogated...
The "whistleblower" in the impeachment does not meet the requirements of an actual whistle blower since there is no direct evidence, merely heresay.
Bring him/her forward and let the interrogation begin.


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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by arvcat2 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:45 am

Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:36 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:13 pm
Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:45 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm
Thanks for bringing to our attention. If proven to valid, I think any politician, of either party, operating a corrupt foundation should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe the whistleblowers right to be remain anonymous and of said politician tries to intimidate or publicly releases the name of the whistleblower, they should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I assume we’re on the same page on this?
There is no right of anonymity for a whistleblower.
Correct, no right at all. The whistleblower in the impeachment should be on the stand to be interrogated...
The "whistleblower" in the impeachment does not meet the requirements of an actual whistle blower since there is no direct evidence, merely heresay.
Bring him/her forward and let the interrogation begin.
If this impeachment bs proceeds to calling in witnesses, Eric Ciaramella most certainly needs to be brought in. The senate and the public needs to know if Eric Ciaramella is an actual do gooder whistle blower or a partisan player in a nefarious operation coordinated with Adam Schiff and his staff. Even if the senate acquits Trump without witnesses, Eric Ciaramella's involvement, the worst kept secret in politics and the Demedia, deserves more scrutiny.



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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by Rich K » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:46 am

arvcat2 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:45 am
Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:36 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:13 pm
Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:45 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm
Thanks for bringing to our attention. If proven to valid, I think any politician, of either party, operating a corrupt foundation should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe the whistleblowers right to be remain anonymous and of said politician tries to intimidate or publicly releases the name of the whistleblower, they should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I assume we’re on the same page on this?
There is no right of anonymity for a whistleblower.
Correct, no right at all. The whistleblower in the impeachment should be on the stand to be interrogated...
The "whistleblower" in the impeachment does not meet the requirements of an actual whistle blower since there is no direct evidence, merely heresay.
Bring him/her forward and let the interrogation begin.
If this impeachment bs proceeds to calling in witnesses, Eric Ciaramella most certainly needs to be brought in. The senate and the public needs to know if Eric Ciaramella is an actual do gooder whistle blower or a partisan player in a nefarious operation coordinated with Adam Schiff and his staff. Even if the senate acquits Trump without witnesses, Eric Ciaramella's involvement, the worst kept secret in politics and the Demedia, deserves more scrutiny.
Eric Ciaramelia needs to be interviewed, but not in the impeachment circus. He needs to be interviewed by FBI agents and any information be used in a grand jury for referral to District Court.


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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by codecat » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:08 pm

RickRund wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:42 am
Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:20 am
The notion that any foreign government would donate to the Clinton Foundation because they do good work is farcical. If the Russian government wanted "good work" done they'd do it themselves.

The only ONLY reason for the Russian government to give money to the Clinton Foundation is to buy influence. Period. No other reason. Those that think otherwise are stupid.
BINGO!!!

Bada-bing!!!
Absolutely correct: We have and are seeing an unprecedented retaliation against 45 because of the degree that a swamp has established itself - the normal course for any government is to grow itself, one employee at a time voting for larger government for their own security and benefit, until you have a state so deep and pervasive that it fights back against any who would threaten it. In our case, it has been aided greatly by in this endeavor by the ultra-rich of the world who wish to control yet one more economy.

Oh yeah, most of the never-Trumper's fall into this category - the human being can always find a apparently decent motive to hide a lesser one behind.


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Post by 77matcat » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:13 pm

I assume sooner or later Ted’s father will be tossed in the slammer.



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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by 77matcat » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:24 pm

Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:36 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:13 pm
Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:45 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm
Thanks for bringing to our attention. If proven to valid, I think any politician, of either party, operating a corrupt foundation should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe the whistleblowers right to be remain anonymous and of said politician tries to intimidate or publicly releases the name of the whistleblower, they should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I assume we’re on the same page on this?
There is no right of anonymity for a whistleblower.
Correct, no right at all. The whistleblower in the impeachment should be on the stand to be interrogated...
The "whistleblower" in the impeachment does not meet the requirements of an actual whistle blower since there is no direct evidence, merely heresay.
Bring him/her forward and let the interrogation begin.
“In fact, by law the Complainant – or any individual in the Intelligence Community who wants to report information with respect to an urgent concern to the congressional intelligence committees – need not possess first-hand information in order to file a complaint,”

This is what I get by doing a little looking. Haven’t found anything that says they need to have direct evidence.

Please post link so I can be educated.



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Post by cats2506 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:40 am

77matcat wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:24 pm
Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:36 pm
RickRund wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:13 pm
Rich K wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:45 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:58 pm
Thanks for bringing to our attention. If proven to valid, I think any politician, of either party, operating a corrupt foundation should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe the whistleblowers right to be remain anonymous and of said politician tries to intimidate or publicly releases the name of the whistleblower, they should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I assume we’re on the same page on this?
There is no right of anonymity for a whistleblower.
Correct, no right at all. The whistleblower in the impeachment should be on the stand to be interrogated...
The "whistleblower" in the impeachment does not meet the requirements of an actual whistle blower since there is no direct evidence, merely heresay.
Bring him/her forward and let the interrogation begin.
“In fact, by law the Complainant – or any individual in the Intelligence Community who wants to report information with respect to an urgent concern to the congressional intelligence committees – need not possess first-hand information in order to file a complaint,”

This is what I get by doing a little looking. Haven’t found anything that says they need to have direct evidence.

Please post link so I can be educated.
The DOJ found that the ICIG and the "whistleblower" didn't have authority over POTUS, therefore it was not valid for the "whistleblower" to report the "heresay" to the ICIG.

The president does not fall under the purview of the ICIG, so the "whistleblowers" report should never have been sent to congress. The ICIG only has authority over the Intelligence Community not over the Executive.


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Re: Clinton Foundation whistleblower comes forward

Post by 77matcat » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:15 pm

With Bill’s interpretation of art II (remember he auditioned for his current position by sending a paper to 45 with his thoughts how art. II created a king) it’s not difficult to believe he would find the whistle blower law does not pertain to the executive branch, right.

If Bill found that the law does not pertain to the president, why continue and say the whistleblower can’t provide hearsay testimony?? The existing law allows hearsay. Bar just needs to say it does not pertain.

You sound like you have read, can you provide a link??

Not being lazy. I’ve googled DOJs opinion on the whistleblower law and don’t find anything on point.

Thanks.



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