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Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:29 pm
by BelgradeBobcat
Watching Kentucky play Kansas right now. Kentucky is beating the Jayhawks 37-21.
I'm trying to find a weakness that perhaps the Bobcats can exploit. I think I found one. Sometimes when Kansas brings the ball up, Kentucky falls back behind the half line, leaving the Kansas players wide open. Kansas isn't taking them up on it and dribbling the ball across the half line and running right into the teeth of that Kentucky defense. I think the Bobcats should take advantage of this obvious flaw in Kentucky's defense and launch our shots well before crossing the half line. Anything closer and Kentucky's players-which are among the tallest in all of college basketball will just swat it away. I hope coach Fish see's this as well. I think it's an excellent plan.
Go Bobcats.
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:01 pm
by MSU01
Watching this game and thinking that MSU is playing these guys makes me want to curl up in a fetal position and weep softly to myself.
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:15 pm
by kmax
MSU01 wrote:Watching this game and thinking that MSU is playing these guys makes me want to curl up in a fetal position and weep softly to myself.
Glad I'm not the only one.
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Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:36 pm
by BelgradeBobcat
Kentucky beats Kansas 72-40 but it's not like Kansas is any good...

Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:58 pm
by KittieKop
Eh, whatever doesn't kill you makes you......I don't know where I was going with this. Yeah, gonna be ugly regardless of how Kentucky looked or how MSU has looked thus far. We could have all 5 starters back from a BSC championship team and they're likely to get trucked by Kentucky 49 times out of 50.
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:18 am
by rtb
Kentucky has 10 guys on their team that could start anywhere in the country. I am sure they will slip once or twice this season but I don't see Kentucky losing more than 2 games this season and they should win the Championship. The good news in all of this is, the Cats won't be the only team to get their asses kicked this year by Kentucky, we will just be one of many. Heck, we can say we accomplished the same thing as Kansas before Thanksgiving.
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Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:09 am
by ImagineSanta
Do we keep them under 110? They are so vastly talented they play two, five man platoons to help spread the love. I think they have 9 McDonald All-Americans and have a taller average team than every NBA team but one. I'd take them over the Sixers at this point.
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:50 am
by ilovethecats
rtb wrote:Kentucky has 10 guys on their team that could start anywhere in the country. I am sure they will slip once or twice this season but I don't see Kentucky losing more than 2 games this season and they should win the Championship. The good news in all of this is, the Cats won't be the only team to get their asses kicked this year by Kentucky, we will just be one of many. Heck, we can say we accomplished the same thing as Kansas before Thanksgiving.
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I've never seen anything like it in all my years of watching hoops. their five guys off the bench would literally be a starting five for any team in the nation. coach c doesn't even call them his bench, he calls them the 2nd platoon.

they have the first platoon and second platoon and I read a couple days ago where he said it's the first time in his career where he could literally start the "second platoon" ahead of the "first platoon" and wouldn't think twice about it. it's crazy.
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:14 am
by Colter_Nuanez
ilovethecats wrote:rtb wrote:Kentucky has 10 guys on their team that could start anywhere in the country. I am sure they will slip once or twice this season but I don't see Kentucky losing more than 2 games this season and they should win the Championship. The good news in all of this is, the Cats won't be the only team to get their asses kicked this year by Kentucky, we will just be one of many. Heck, we can say we accomplished the same thing as Kansas before Thanksgiving.
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I've never seen anything like it in all my years of watching hoops. their five guys off the bench would literally be a starting five for any team in the nation. coach c doesn't even call them his bench, he calls them the 2nd platoon.

they have the first platoon and second platoon and I read a couple days ago where he said it's the first time in his career where he could literally start the "second platoon" ahead of the "first platoon" and wouldn't think twice about it. it's crazy.
They scrimmage for the right to have more minutes as a unit on each day they don't have a game. All 10 of those guys were McDonald's All-Americas
Karl Towns, Willie Cauley-Stein, Marcus Lee and Dakari Johnson will all almost certainly go in the first round of the NBA draft. Alex Poythress could too. The Harrison twins are borderline first-round guys and will certainly get drafted.
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:21 am
by ilovethecats
Colter_Nuanez wrote:ilovethecats wrote:rtb wrote:Kentucky has 10 guys on their team that could start anywhere in the country. I am sure they will slip once or twice this season but I don't see Kentucky losing more than 2 games this season and they should win the Championship. The good news in all of this is, the Cats won't be the only team to get their asses kicked this year by Kentucky, we will just be one of many. Heck, we can say we accomplished the same thing as Kansas before Thanksgiving.
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I've never seen anything like it in all my years of watching hoops. their five guys off the bench would literally be a starting five for any team in the nation. coach c doesn't even call them his bench, he calls them the 2nd platoon.

they have the first platoon and second platoon and I read a couple days ago where he said it's the first time in his career where he could literally start the "second platoon" ahead of the "first platoon" and wouldn't think twice about it. it's crazy.
They scrimmage for the right to have more minutes as a unit on each day they don't have a game. All 10 of those guys were McDonald's All-Americas
Karl Towns, Willie Cauley-Stein, Marcus Lee and Dakari Johnson will all almost certainly go in the first round of the NBA draft. Alex Poythress could too. The Harrison twins are borderline first-round guys and will certainly get drafted.
just remarkable.

Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:04 pm
by msu_agfan
BelgradeBobcat wrote:Watching Kentucky play Kansas right now. Kentucky is beating the Jayhawks 37-21.
I'm trying to find a weakness that perhaps the Bobcats can exploit. I think I found one. Sometimes when Kansas brings the ball up, Kentucky falls back behind the half line, leaving the Kansas players wide open. Kansas isn't taking them up on it and dribbling the ball across the half line and running right into the teeth of that Kentucky defense. I think the Bobcats should take advantage of this obvious flaw in Kentucky's defense and launch our shots well before crossing the half line. Anything closer and Kentucky's players-which are among the tallest in all of college basketball will just swat it away. I hope coach Fish see's this as well. I think it's an excellent plan.
Go Bobcats.
I pretty much lol'd then thought it might not be too bad a strategy. Maybe we should just let some threes fly, like only take one or two steps past half court. Our average from that distance has got to be better than if we come closer. We would be laughed at, but our score might be a little more respectable. If we get a couple to fall, then it opens up the whole field! (er, court.)
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:15 pm
by profisme
Hold the ball for 33-34 seconds each possession then launch a three from where the person has the ball. Then on Kentucky's possessions, foul every time down the court forcing them to beat you at the FT line. If you average 40 seconds per exchange like that, it would cut it down to 30 possessions per team per half. We would obviously need our entire team to get in on the action and be sure that our 3-point shooters are the last to give up their fouls. I'm sure it would work on NCAA B-ball 2014... right?

Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:33 pm
by allcat
profisme wrote:Hold the ball for 33-34 seconds each possession then launch a three from where the person has the ball. Then on Kentucky's possessions, foul every time down the court forcing them to beat you at the FT line. If you average 40 seconds per exchange like that, it would cut it down to 30 possessions per team per half. We would obviously need our entire team to get in on the action and be sure that our 3-point shooters are the last to give up their fouls. I'm sure it would work on NCAA B-ball 2014... right?

Take our whipping, but use this to try and coach the guys as well as possible. I think we will be lucky to score 25.
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:29 am
by SonomaCat
Is there/will there be a line on this game, or is it such a mismatch that Vegas will just take it off the board?
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:09 pm
by ilovethecats
Bay Area Cat wrote:Is there/will there be a line on this game, or is it such a mismatch that Vegas will just take it off the board?
probably. i've seen pretty big lines before but we were a 15.5 point underdog to buffalo. kentucky just beat kansas by 30. we'd legitimately be a 40 to 50 point dog. you just don't see lines like that often. but vegas is smarter than me...
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:19 pm
by lakesbison
You guys play Kentucky?
ha ha. wow.
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:40 pm
by CatBlitz
lakesbison wrote:You guys play Kentucky?
ha ha. wow.
You're still around? Shame.
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:29 pm
by lakesbison
where would I go?
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:46 pm
by grizzh8r
lakesbison wrote:where would I go?
Anywhere but here...
Re: Scouting Kentucky
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:25 pm
by RickRund
lakesbison wrote:where would I go?
lakesbison wrote:You guys play Kentucky?
ha ha. wow.
egriz.....