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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by mslacat » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:42 am

Fish made another offer last night that I really like and find very interesting to watch. He offered:

Jaizec Lottie 6-0 PG from Cherokee Trail HS in Aurora CO. I have seen him listed any where from 5-11 to 6-1. He Cherokee Trail last year to a 19-7 (10-4 conf) record averaging 16 points 6 assist 3 rebounds 3 steaks a game while shooting 54% from the field and 35% from three point range. He is on the short list of the potential 16-17 year Colorado Mister Basketball candidates. I have done a little digging and I am hearing this is a HC Brian Fish recruit. When he scouted him he loved him and took personal interest in his recruitment. As you can imagine being from Colorado he has quite an interest from the Big Sky Conference Schools. So far he has offers from. Montana State, Weber State and Northern Colorado, from the Big Sky and additional offers from Santa Clara, Air force and Denver. I know Montana was very interested in him as well I have heard is Northern Colorado, Idaho, Portland State and Idaho State, so their could be more Big Sky Conference interest. Portland Colorado and Colorado State are showing some interest also. What will be interesting to follow is that I think this is the first time Fish could be going up head to head with the other schools in the conference. Most of the recruits Fish has landed have been outside of traditional Big Sky recruiting grounds. Current Bobcat Mandrell Worthy was recruited by Montana also but when they got a commit from Michael Oguine they backed off, and Worthy did get an offer from (and official visit) from Idaho but they were not back in the conference then. I would keep an eye out on this guy, he has all the ear marks of a Brian Fish recruit. Don't be surprised if he is in the first or second week of recruiting this September. Scout.com ranks him a 3 star prospect. Espn grades him out at 77 (Tyler Hall was graded out at 78 but was pretty under rated)

Some Internet scouting services evals over the past 12 months
Scout.com eval
Lottie possesses good quickness and a flair for drive-and-dish and drive-and-kick passes. He's a very fundamentally sound point guard who also scores capable on drives and can knock down open threes. He's a promising talent to watch from the 2017 class.

ESPN Analyst
Updated 12/02/2015
Strengths:
Lottie has a nice frame with good length and it will be able to handle good weight going forward. He is a true point guard who thinks facilitating before scoring. His initial burst is solid, but it's his ability to change speeds that make him special. While penetrating his vision is impeccable and his crossover going in either direction is potent. He drops off passes in the tightest of angles and they're always on target. He can drop in the floater as well and his jump shot (more like a set shot) is workable.
Weaknesses:
Lottie needs to improve his burst and get stronger to finish through contact while attacking the rim. In addition, he needs to get his legs into his shot to improve his consistency.
Bottom Line:
If his jump shot improves, Lottie has some skills and feel that remind us of former NBA player Mike Bibby.

Colorado Prep Hoops eval 7/30/2015

Jaizec Lottie, a 6-foot Cherokee Trail junior is the epitome of a point guard. His numbers as a sophomore last season — 11.3 points, 4.9 assists, 3.2 rebounds and 1.6 steals per game — provide a snapshot of a player who had his hand in everything the Cougars did.

His ability to make an engine run makes Lottie a preseason candidate for the first PHC Mr. Colorado Basketball award.

Lottie took an even bigger leap this summer as a player whose success is measured not just in how many times he can score the basketball, but he can make the pieces around move like a well-rehearsed symphony.

“He may be the best pure point guard in the state,” said Lottie’s coach with Billups Elite, Quincy Sanders, told PHC earlier this month. “He can do everything to break his man down, he can get to the basket, and he can see the play before it develops.”

Lottie had an eye-opening experience this year when he had the chance to attend an Adidas All-American camp in New York City, competing against the best players in the country on that circuit. Lottie more than held his own, finishing among the camp’s assist leaders. His ability to create at an elite level at the point guard position has had Lottie fielding Division I offers from Santa Clara, Air Force and Northern Colorado.

For his part, Lottie knows he still has plenty of improving left to do before he reaches the level he wants to reach — and that’s part of what makes him dangerous.

“I just want to keep going out there,” he told PHC last month, “and keep showing colleges what I can do.”
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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by kyle_sample » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:30 am

It's not likely he will be going up against Montana. Timmy Falls already committed and with the addition of Donaven Dorsey and putting Gavin DeJong back on scholarship in 2017-18, Montana is focused on gaining the commitment of two posts who will be in Missoula over Labor Day weekend



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Post by mslacat » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:34 pm

kyle_sample wrote:It's not likely he will be going up against Montana. Timmy Falls already committed and with the addition of Donaven Dorsey and putting Gavin DeJong back on scholarship in 2017-18, Montana is focused on gaining the commitment of two posts who will be in Missoula over Labor Day weekend
Yea it has been some time since I have heard Lottie associated with the Griz. It makes sense they landed 2 pretty darn good guard who will contribute right away in 2017-18 so a big man or two should be next up. Do you know who the two big men coming in are or has that yet to be decided.


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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by kyle_sample » Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:35 pm

mslacat wrote:
kyle_sample wrote:It's not likely he will be going up against Montana. Timmy Falls already committed and with the addition of Donaven Dorsey and putting Gavin DeJong back on scholarship in 2017-18, Montana is focused on gaining the commitment of two posts who will be in Missoula over Labor Day weekend
Yea it has been some time since I have heard Lottie associated with the Griz. It makes sense they landed 2 pretty darn good guard who will contribute right away in 2017-18 so a big man or two should be next up. Do you know who the two big men coming in are or has that yet to be decided.
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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by iaafan » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:59 am

That'd be Collin (with 2 Ls) Welp, son of Christian Welp. Bobcat fans remember Christian, who passed away recently. He came to MSU with the Washington Huskies for that thrilling NIT game back in the 80s.



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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by wapiti » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:48 am

3 steaks a game!!!!!! That is impressive. Will this be a new item at the concessions too. If so he could easily up that stat.
Maybe we could get some tailgating going at the bball games and get him a few more steaks.
mslacat wrote:Fish made another offer last night that I really like and find very interesting to watch. He offered:

Jaizec Lottie 6-0 PG from Cherokee Trail HS in Aurora CO. I have seen him listed any where from 5-11 to 6-1. He Cherokee Trail last year to a 19-7 (10-4 conf) record averaging 16 points 6 assist 3 rebounds 3 steaks a game while shooting 54% from the field and 35% from three point range. He is on the short list of the potential 16-17 year Colorado Mister Basketball candidates.

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Post by mslacat » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:27 am

You can officially take Kezie 'KZ' Okpala off the board, if we had a board. Stanford officiall offered him this past week and he jumped on it and committed.

Unofficially you might want to think about considering 6-7 Evan Battey off the board. He currently has about 20 offers out there, and while I feel confident Fish can recruit against the Southern Utah's and Fresno States of the world the Depual, Purdue and Seton Halls of the D-1 landscape are getting a little more problematic. I was hoping the fact he is a 6-7 center might hold a few Mid to High majors back, but it appears most feel they can convert him to a forward.


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Post by mslacat » Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:39 pm

So it appears that the girl friend of one our prime (realistic) targets just committed to the Griz for soccer. Help or hurt the chances of the Bobcats signing him.

FYI: at this point it appears the Griz have no interest as they are stocked at his position?


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Post by mslacat » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:20 am

It appears the Bobcat coaches had a player in for an unofficial visit this past week end.

FYI: an unofficial visit is one where the player pays his own way to Bozeman and it does not count against MSU's maximum official visits allowed.

The player was Coleson Struhs 6-6ish power forward from Basha high school in Arizona. Basha is the same high school that incoming freshman Devin Kirby came from. The Bobcats have also offered 6-7 power forward Gabe McGlothan from Basha. Struhs averaged 3pts 2rbs a game so not that impressive. To Struh's defense as I have posted before, though, Basha's runs a slow down deliberate offence that averages only 48pts a game and McGothlan averages 11. pts 8 rebounds ( Kirby 7 points, 6 rebounds) so if I was going for a power forward off Basha I might go for McGothan. In doing a little reading it appears Struh is a rugged physical player who can shoot out to three. I also hear he had a real good summer for his AAU team shooting the ball and scoring. All that said currently it appears that Struhs only has one college offer and that is from a local JC. To me he looks like a walk-on possibility.


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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by Cat Grad » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:16 am

Why doesn't he go to West Virginia and pick up a couple of kids like Randy Moss, Jason Williams or Jerry West? It is what it is and I personally don't care where a kid is from as long as he wants to improve the school he's going to and himself.



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Post by mslacat » Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:18 am

Cat Grad wrote:Why doesn't he go to West Virginia and pick up a couple of kids like Randy Moss, Jason Williams or Jerry West? It is what it is and I personally don't care where a kid is from as long as he wants to improve the school he's going to and himself.
If I get your point right, you were commenting on my extended reference to Basha high school. I made reference to Basha for three reasons beside that is where he goes to school. #1 Basha is the school a current Bobcat went to and as a result he has played with and personally know the recruit. When ever something like this happens I always mention it as a side note but also it. may or may not give the Bobcats a slight advantage to have a friend already on campus. Obviously the Bobcats have had success recruiting from the school which may mean they have a good relationship with its coaches. #2 The Bobcats have already offered at least 1 other Basha player this year. I just think that is worth mentioning. The #3 and most important reason is, I wanted to mention Baha and their style of play which is very hard to judge their players by stats alone. Basha does not score a lot of point so no one on the team really accumulates outstanding stats despite having a lot of talent. Basha does, though, send a lot of its players on to college programs (at all levels). Last years seniors 2 signed with D-1 basketball programs, 1 (their leading scorer 12pts) signed with D-1 football program, 1 signed with a D-2, and I believe another had offers from the local JC team. They don't have great stats but they very well coached and tend to bloom in college. So when I post Struhs averaged only 3pts and 2rbs last year coming off the bench in relief of Kirby, don't blow him off just an average bench player. In one AAU tournament this summer he scored 32pts 8rbs, 14pts 12rbs & 22pt 7rbs through three game span. Our coaches cold see more in him than we can see simply looking at last years stat line.


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Re: 2017 Recruiting

Post by Cat Grad » Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:40 am

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Cat Grad wrote:Why doesn't he go to West Virginia and pick up a couple of kids like Randy Moss, Jason Williams or Jerry West? It is what it is and I personally don't care where a kid is from as long as he wants to improve the school he's going to and himself.
If I get your point right, you were commenting on my extended reference to Basha high school. I made reference to Basha for three reasons beside that is where he goes to school. #1 Basha is the school a current Bobcat went to and as a result he has played with and personally know the recruit. When ever something like this happens I always mention it as a side note but also it. may or may not give the Bobcats a slight advantage to have a friend already on campus. Obviously the Bobcats have had success recruiting from the school which may mean they have a good relationship with its coaches. #2 The Bobcats have already offered at least 1 other Basha player this year. I just think that is worth mentioning. The #3 and most important reason is, I wanted to mention Baha and their style of play which is very hard to judge their players by stats alone. Basha does not score a lot of point so no one on the team really accumulates outstanding stats despite having a lot of talent. Basha does, though, send a lot of its players on to college programs (at all levels). Last years seniors 2 signed with D-1 basketball programs, 1 (their leading scorer 12pts) signed with D-1 football program, 1 signed with a D-2, and I believe another had offers from the local JC team. They don't have great stats but they very well coached and tend to bloom in college. So when I post Struhs averaged only 3pts and 2rbs last year coming off the bench in relief of Kirby, don't blow him off just an average bench player. In one AAU tournament this summer he scored 32pts 8rbs, 14pts 12rbs & 22pt 7rbs through three game span. Our coaches cold see more in him than we can see simply looking at last years stat line.
I thought Fish played for Marshall. There's always been a lot of great basketball played in that state and obviously some great ball players came from there. That's all I was suggesting.



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Re: 2017 Recruiting

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Cat Grad wrote:
mslacat wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:Why doesn't he go to West Virginia and pick up a couple of kids like Randy Moss, Jason Williams or Jerry West? It is what it is and I personally don't care where a kid is from as long as he wants to improve the school he's going to and himself.
If I get your point right, you were commenting on my extended reference to Basha high school. I made reference to Basha for three reasons beside that is where he goes to school. #1 Basha is the school a current Bobcat went to and as a result he has played with and personally know the recruit. When ever something like this happens I always mention it as a side note but also it. may or may not give the Bobcats a slight advantage to have a friend already on campus. Obviously the Bobcats have had success recruiting from the school which may mean they have a good relationship with its coaches. #2 The Bobcats have already offered at least 1 other Basha player this year. I just think that is worth mentioning. The #3 and most important reason is, I wanted to mention Baha and their style of play which is very hard to judge their players by stats alone. Basha does not score a lot of point so no one on the team really accumulates outstanding stats despite having a lot of talent. Basha does, though, send a lot of its players on to college programs (at all levels). Last years seniors 2 signed with D-1 basketball programs, 1 (their leading scorer 12pts) signed with D-1 football program, 1 signed with a D-2, and I believe another had offers from the local JC team. They don't have great stats but they very well coached and tend to bloom in college. So when I post Struhs averaged only 3pts and 2rbs last year coming off the bench in relief of Kirby, don't blow him off just an average bench player. In one AAU tournament this summer he scored 32pts 8rbs, 14pts 12rbs & 22pt 7rbs through three game span. Our coaches cold see more in him than we can see simply looking at last years stat line.
I thought Fish played for Marshall. There's always been a lot of great basketball played in that state and obviously some great ball players came from there. That's all I was suggesting.
He played at Marshall and at Western Kentucky. Grew up in Indiana. Some good players have come out of those states.



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Post by mslacat » Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:03 pm

Parker Gabriel posted on Twiiter earlier today that MSU Basketball Men's program will have both 6-6ish Branden Howard of Great Fall high (25 points 10 rebounds & 2assists game) and 6-8ish Adrease Jackson of Santa Margarita Catholic High School Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif (18 points 8 rebounds 2 blocks ) in this weekend for our home football opener. If you go to the first page of this thread you will see a write up on both of these guys so I am not going to repeat a lot of stuff. What I really like about these both these guys, is that despite their shiny Junior stat lines, their primary reputation is for their relentless hustle and high energy they bring to the game. Neither is afraid to mix it up on the floor and they don't take plays off, and I think this is important to play for Fish. We have seen plenty of guys with decent talent show up on campus but if they are not ready and willing to work hard and put the time in they don't earn a lot of minutes from Fish and linger down the bench. I think both of these guys have the potential to be great players for the Bobcats.


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Post by mslacat » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:07 am

Both Adrease Jackson and Brendan Howard were on campus this week-end there was a great picture of them with Harald Frey and Devin Kirby on Instagram, but I don't know how to post it! Frey looks like someones 13 year old little kid brother among all the trees there. I think though the picture does legitimize Jackson size (who I have seen listed at 6-7 to 6-9). If Kirby is a legit 6-10 Jackson is easily 6-9. I believe this was the first visit for both guys, I hear Howard want to take 3 visits before deciding, Eastern Washington I pretty sure is one and Northern Arizona could be the second, but I am not sure. Jackson short list also includes Army, Dartmouth, Air Force and American but I don't know if he will trip to all four. A prospect is allowed a maximum 5 official visits. If both these guys were to commit in the next couple days that would probably shut down MSU on campus recruiting for the fall or until we find out if Konner Frey will be eligible this year. If Konner Frey is eligible this year to play as a senior his scholarship would then be available for next year. The coaches seemed to be looking hard for a high school big man and a point guard. With the Bobcat Football team in town for the next two weeks look for more prospects to be brought in both week ends until we get two commits.


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Post by msu_agfan » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:31 am

mslacat wrote:Both Adrease Jackson and Brendan Howard were on campus this week-end there was a great picture of them with Harald Frey and Devin Kirby on Instagram, but I don't know how to post it! Frey looks like someones 13 year old little kid brother among all the trees there. I think though the picture does legitimize Jackson size (who I have seen listed at 6-7 to 6-9). If Kirby is a legit 6-10 Jackson is easily 6-9. .
Could you comment on Howard's size? I seem to remember that there is a quibble about his height. Did he look at least 6'7?


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Post by mslacat » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:16 am

He is not 6-7

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From left to right Adrease Jackson (recruit) is wearing the black shirt he is listed on his AAU team at 6-9, next to him is Devin Kirby (Bobcat Freshman) in the Gold Rush shirt who was listed at 6-11 by his high school team last year but 6-10 by Fish. Third is Harald Fey (Bobcat Freshman) gold rush shirt listed 6-2 in high school 6-1 on our roster. Brendan Howard of course is in the blue shirt listed at 6-6 last year in high school I am betting Fish will list him at 6-5.


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Post by mslacat » Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:01 pm

Ok last week end 6-9 Adrease Jackson and Brendan Howard were in for official visits. Howard chose to commit to Eastern Washington but Jackson is still very much in play as he makes 2 more visits. I have been told "Fish is doing an outstanding job recruiting Jackson". This week end we have three more prospect in according to Parker Gabriel, guards Jaizec Lottie from Colorado and Isaac Bonton from Portland and power forward 6-7 Clashon Gaffney Texas. All three of these players are three star prospect. I wrote a break down on Lottie that appears else where in this thread and is the most highly ranked of the three on a national level. He has offers from Denver, Weber State, Northern Colorado, Santa Clara, and Air Force. Here is a little info on the other two.

Clashon Gaffney 6-7 (I have also seen him listed at 6-8) PF from Clarkville Texas (I thought I did a write up on him before but could not find it) Clashon averaged 17.3 points, 10.3 rebounds and 4 blocks a game last season and is ranked by ESPN as the #17 basketball prospect in Texas and a #75 ranking overall. Despite this, though, he may be considered a more highly ranked foot ball recruit. It is reported that he is said to have offeres from Baylor, Oklahoma State, and Stanford for football. I hear that he has at least 4 offers for basketball but I can find a list. By the way he is also took 1st in Texas 6A state championship the triple jump and rd in the long jump.

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Under Armour Finals : Expect the 6-foot-7 power forward to develop into one of the premier big men in the state of Texas over the next couple years. Blessed with soft hands and good touch around the rim, Gaffney is a solid finisher around the low block. He runs the floor very well for a big man and has good defensive instincts as well.

Isaac Bonton PG 6-2: Isaac Bonton is an interesting story he committed to U of Portland last January when current Bobcat Eric Jackson was on the staff. At the same time Coach Fish and Brandon Lincoln were recruiting him hard for the Bobcats. When Portland let their coaches go last spring he opened up his recruitment again. Bonton is more of a score first point guard but he can really score the ball I don't have his exact stats but he scored over 20 points a game and 4 assits. He was named 5A POY as a junior and has been labeled by some as Oregon's top basketball prospect. Had offers on the table from Idaho, Montana, Montana State, Weber State and Northern Arizona before committing, with interest also from Oregon and Gonzaga. Currently I am told Northern Arizona and Montana State are the leaders for his services, but other are involved.

ESPN Scouting report on Bonton
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Strengths:
Bonton is solid looking point guard prospect due to his size and budding athleticism. He has a strong frame where he can carry defenders on his hip and finish with either hand while attacking the rim. He is not a burner, but he changes speeds well and his head is always up while navigating the defense. In transition he can take the outlet pass and advance the ball quickly demonstrating his feel for the game.
Weaknesses:
Bonton needs to continue to improve his initial burst while attacking the defense and he needs to prove that he can hit the jump shot consistently when given he opportunity. In the half court set he needs to improve his play making skills (high screen and roll, pick-and-pop, etc.)
Bottom Line:
Bonton looks like a solid looking point guard position for the Division I level due to his size and feel for the game.
One Comment about Jaizec Lottie and Bonton. The 6-0 Lottie is more of a pure point guard than 6-2 Bonton. If we had more scholarships available it would not surprise me if Fish would be willing to take both if they were so inclined to commit. I think all three of these guys could make an impact on the program as true freshman. It is very enchoaraging to see know that we lost out on the local kid Howard, but the coaches still have the such great talent still available to them. For me I would love to sign one of the guards we have coming in with Gaffney and Jackson. That would really be something special.


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Re: 2017 Recruiting

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https://twitter.com/pgabriel15/status/778634952069873664


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Hawks86 wrote:https://twitter.com/pgabriel15/status/778634952069873664
Google tells me he initially committed to University of Portland. Also had offers from Idaho and PSU.



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