MBB @ UNC

[BelligerentBobcat]

I cannot wait for Walker to graduate.

[Desert_Bobcat]

I cannot wait for Walker to graduate.

There’s no chance he stays after this year. I’d be willing to bet he transfers and tries to chase a bag of undeserved NIL money.

[technoCat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

[wapiti]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

Concur
Plus Walker has improved on his shortcomings.

[mslacatfan]

2-13 on the road this season…. No bueno.

[BelligerentBobcat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

[BelgradeBobcat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

So when is Logie putting you on his staff?

[technoCat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

But Lecholat has 0 offensive game. I love Sam and his hustle but we don't win with hustle alone. And why target Walker specifics over and over when there are several other players that make just as many mistakes. We aren't losing because our best scorer and rebounder is not also our best defensive player and ball distributer...

[BelgradeBobcat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

But Lecholat has 0 offensive game. I love Sam and his hustle but we don't win with hustle alone. And why target Walker specifics over and over when there are several other players that make just as many mistakes. We aren't losing because our best scorer and rebounder is not also our best defensive player and ball distributer...

Agbonkpolo, Patterson, Goracke, McMahon, Lecholat all pretty much disappeared offensively against UNC and with the exception of Patterson, disappeared offensively for the whole week.

[gtapp]

Coaching has not been good this year (that includes recruiting).

[Desert_Bobcat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

I agree 100% with this. Scheme is huge
I think this team has had such struggles finding an offensive identity and the reason haven’t found “the main guy” is because they’re struggling between 2 offensive philosophies. With Walker in the offense is a high ball “screen” (Walker doesn’t set screens so I’ll call it more of a rub) that turns into a back to the basket iso game with the 4 other players standing on the other side of the floor picking daisies because they know they’re not going to get the ball because Walker usually doesn’t/can’t pass out of it. It’s the same thing almost every time.

When he’s not on the floor and Sam or Chika is playing the 5 the offense is more free flowing with lots of ball movement, ball screens, off-ball screens, backside movement, dribble handoffs, you name it. If you could put numbers to it, you’d see that an exponential amount of “good” shots, assists, and scoring runs come from the type of ball that is being played when Walker is on the bench. This is the kind of ball Logie wants to play too. And the contrast between the two styles of ball is just too different for them to have consistent success because they aren’t allowed to find a flow because once Walker steps on the floor the offense becomes molasses and Walker doesn’t have the stamina to do his thing for more than 5 minutes at a time. It’s just too different.

I’ve said it time and time again, Walker is a great scorer. He just can’t do anything else. Regarding rebounds: his rebound numbers are highest on the team because, if you watch the games, are because he gets the lucky bounce off the rim, or because Sam has cleared the entire lane on a box out and anyone has free reign to grab the ball. It’s the reason why both his and Max’s numbers are so inflated. (We can have the Max talk too if we want. I’d love to have that chat if we’re tired of talking about Walker )
And the reason I’m so hard on him is because he’s supposed to be the “marquee” player. I expect the marquee guy to do more than just score and play 20 minutes a game. Call it being spoiled, but Ford, Battle, Bishop, Frey, Darius Brown, Belo, Great Osobor, all did more than just score the basketball…

[BelligerentBobcat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

But Lecholat has 0 offensive game. I love Sam and his hustle but we don't win with hustle alone. And why target Walker specifics over and over when there are several other players that make just as many mistakes. We aren't losing because our best scorer and rebounder is not also our best defensive player and ball distributer...

I don’t disagree regarding Lecholat.

On Walker, it’s frustrating to me more than other players because the talent, the ability, is there but the give a damn isn’t. He might be the best scorer, but I believe he’s still a net negative on the offense. Is he the reason we’re losing though? Probably not. To me the reason we’re losing is a lack of talent. Last year Ford covered up a lot of stuff, and they went on a crazy hot streak at the end that masked a lot of mediocrity.

[BelligerentBobcat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

So when is Logie putting you on his staff?

I’m not suggesting what line ups to run or acting like I know more than the staff. At the end of the day Walker is starting because there aren’t better options.

[BelgradeBobcat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

So when is Logie putting you on his staff?

I’m not suggesting what line ups to run or acting like I know more than the staff. At the end of the day Walker is starting because there aren’t better options.

You sure seem to think you know a lot about Walker. You rip on a college student and take personal shots at him (call him lazy), but you ripped me for being critical of a coach who's making hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[BelligerentBobcat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

So when is Logie putting you on his staff?

I’m not suggesting what line ups to run or acting like I know more than the staff. At the end of the day Walker is starting because there aren’t better options.

You sure seem to think you know a lot about Walker. You rip on a college student and take personal shots at him (call him lazy), but you ripped me for being critical of a coach who's making hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Ok.

[imacat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

But Lecholat has 0 offensive game. I love Sam and his hustle but we don't win with hustle alone. And why target Walker specifics over and over when there are several other players that make just as many mistakes. We aren't losing because our best scorer and rebounder is not also our best defensive player and ball distributer...

I don’t disagree regarding Lecholat.

On Walker, it’s frustrating to me more than other players because the talent, the ability, is there but the give a damn isn’t. He might be the best scorer, but I believe he’s still a net negative on the offense. Is he the reason we’re losing though? Probably not. To me the reason we’re losing is a lack of talent. Last year Ford covered up a lot of stuff, and they went on a crazy hot streak at the end that masked a lot of mediocrity.

We are watching the same games but we are not seeing the same things. I see numerous extra effort moments from Walker. I have no doubt he “gives a damn”.

[HighPlainsBobcat]

What is your guy's beef with Walker? Absolutely no one on this team is performing consistently up to their potential. Lots of bad shots, bad or missed passes, poor ball handling, poor rebounding, and lackluster defense. The fact you guys need to keep call out one guy is getting really old.

He’s a bad defender, bad rebounder, and a ball stopper. He can score on iso opportunities but he misses easy/obvious passes when he’s doubled and in general, his offensive game comes at the detriment to the offensive scheme. He’s just not the kind of player I like to watch. Lecholat for example is less talented, but at least he gives full effort and plays within the scheme. I can respect that, I don’t have a lot of respect for the former.

So when is Logie putting you on his staff?

I’m not suggesting what line ups to run or acting like I know more than the staff. At the end of the day Walker is starting because there aren’t better options.

Maybe not “better” options but there’s certainly “other” options. Just as Logie shook things up by not starting Jabe or PattyMac, he could not start BW and see where that goes. That would certainly change the pace of the game and open things up. A lot! As @Desert_Bobcat laid out, BW is a singular style that doesn’t fit with the rest of the team. BTW- he should know, he filmed and broke it down for a D1 coach. I love Logie’s passion as he wears it on his sleeves. Just like all of us, he’s prone to tendencies. In many of our opinions, the team needs a little more shaking up. If not, these message boards are pointless. They’re mostly pointless anyway outside of opinions!

[MSU01]

Who starts is irrelevant, I'm much more concerned with who's out there to finish these close games MSU finds themselves in night after night. They haven't found the right formula yet, or maybe they just aren't quite as good this year as the teams they've lost to. Generally in a close game, the better team is the one who finds a way to make an extra play or two and get the win. It's why the Chiefs are so dominant in one score games.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Dribbling in the low post while being double teamed is something my high school coach would’ve benched me for…..possibly permanently.

That’s why they don’t dribble against the double, but are patient and challenge the triple instead.

[Bocephus]

Dribbling in the low post while being double teamed is something my high school coach would’ve benched me for…..possibly permanently.

That’s why they don’t dribble against the double, but are patient and challenge the triple instead.