Battle of the QB's...

Obzerver · Post by **Obzerver** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:49 pm

Looking foward to seeing both QB's who should be battling it out for first team All-Conference come 11/13. No, not Ochs and Lulay but Lulay and Meyer. Both QB's have faced WSU, NAU, PSU and ISU. Here's their combined numbers for those games.

Lulay-87 for 154(56%)1206 yards, 3 int's, 5 TD's

Meyer-64 for 84(76%)964 yards, 1 int, 11TD's

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:07 am

obzerver,

If those were the #'s used to determine 1st team QB, TL would have to be happy with 2nd team.

I love TL, but those #'s are CLEARLY in Meyer's favor.

Anyone who thinks otherwise should be a griz fan instead because they simply cannot grasp reality.

velochat · Post by **velochat** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:54 am

The Eagles have played very well. This argument might be decided on the 13th. Go Jacks!

DaGriz · Post by **DaGriz** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:11 am

Anyone who thinks otherwise should be a griz fan instead because they simply cannot grasp reality.

I must be a Griz fan then.

Craig Ochs 129 for 205(63%) 1651 yards, 4 int's, 12 TD's

Lulay-87 for 154(56%)1206 yards, 3 int's, 5 TD's

Meyer-64 for 84(76%)964 yards, 1 int, 11TD's

WYCAT · Post by **WYCAT** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:12 am

Lulay 2 for 2 against the griz and Ochs ofer......

GavinDonos · Post by **GavinDonos** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:54 am

DaGriz wrote:
Anyone who thinks otherwise should be a griz fan instead because they simply cannot grasp reality.
I must be a Griz fan then.

Craig Ochs 129 for 205(63%) 1651 yards, 4 int's, 12 TD's

Lulay-87 for 154(56%)1206 yards, 3 int's, 5 TD's

Meyer-64 for 84(76%)964 yards, 1 int, 11TD's

Hmm, you must be a Griz, alright. You compare Ochs' season stats(excluding last weekends loss, I noticed) to Lulay's and Meyer's stats thru 4 games against common opponents. Hmm 7 games vs. 4 games... I wonder how that Ochs puts up such great numbers?

I hope this is just a silly oversight on your part; unless you're trying to look like a complete buffoon. If so, you're doing a fabulous job!

Keep up the good work...

dUMb-da-dUMb-dUMb!

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:13 am

Gavin,

You beat me to the punch. Typical of a moronic grizzly fan not to READ the post and see the comparison being made.

BTW, duhgriz, when was the last time a griz QB was Big Sky POW 3 consecutive weeks?

DaGriz · Post by **DaGriz** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:30 am

I hope this is just a silly oversight on your part; unless you're trying to look like a complete buffoon. If so, you're doing a fabulous job!

Oops. Sorry about that, I'm an idiot. I just took that off the school site. Here is the adjustments.

Ochs 148 for 235 (63%) 4 int's, 13 TD's.

I don't think he threw a pick, it doesn't have one listed but I could be a complete buffoon.

BTW, duhgriz, when was the last time a griz QB was Big Sky POW 3 consecutive weeks?

I don't think it has happened in the 13 straight playoff years, then again I could be wrong.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:47 pm

DaGriz wrote:
I hope this is just a silly oversight on your part; unless you're trying to look like a complete buffoon. If so, you're doing a fabulous job!
Oops. Sorry about that, I'm an idiot. I just took that off the school site. Here is the adjustments.

Ochs 148 for 235 (63%) 4 int's, 13 TD's.

I don't think he threw a pick, it doesn't have one listed but I could be a complete buffoon.

BTW, duhgriz, when was the last time a griz QB was Big Sky POW 3 consecutive weeks?
I don't think it has happened in the 13 straight playoff years, then again I could be wrong.

You forgot to put the yards in your post.

Obzerver · Post by **Obzerver** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:48 pm

Here's Ochs numbers for three of the four that have common opponents with Lulay and Meyer, WSU, PSU, ISU...UM has NAU this Sat. By the way, Lulay and Meyer are 4-0 against the four common opponenets and Ochs is 2-1 against the three common opponenets.

Ochs- 53 for 78(67%)785 yards, 1 int, 7 TD's

DaGriz · Post by **DaGriz** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:54 pm

I think a big stat that gets over looked is scrambling. Ochs is quick, but I felt Meyers was better in that area. He seemed to have picked up quite a few first downs on 3rd and long. He's very fast. I'm not sure how Lulay has looked in that department this year. Meyer is making big plays in more ways than one and is the complete package.

My point on this post is you can't leave out Ochs when talking top QB's. He is right up there too. I would expect Lulay will run away with it next year unless there is somebody that has a break out year.

Ochs overall passing yards are 1931.

WYCAT · Post by **WYCAT** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:02 pm

My point on this post is you can't leave out Ochs when talking top QB's. He is right up there too.

Fair enough!!! And especially since he has been able to stay healthy this year.