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ASU hires Dennis Erickson.
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:38 pm
by Cat Grad
Re: ASU hires Dennis Erickson.
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:51 pm
by BobCatFan
I would like to thank Kramer for bring the football program back to a national competitive level. We will miss you.
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:15 pm
by mslacat
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:29 pm
by Cat Grad
http://arizonastate.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=617461
For what it's worth, we'll probably see a few more former Bobcat coaches resurface in Arizona. They're everywhere
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:01 pm
by bobcatbob
WOW -i just have a hard time with Dennis moving again after only one year at Idaho. It can't be for money. He has more than enough. I guess he is juist an extremely comeptitive person. I wish him luck and I feel bad for the people at Idaho that had faith in him.
Re: ASU hires Dennis Erickson.
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:07 pm
by 1BadBobcat
BobCatFan wrote:
I would like to thank Kramer for bring the football program back to a national competitive level. We will miss you.
Not so quick BCF. I may be proved wrong, but as I posted before, I really don't see Krames leaving MSU for Idaho. I know all the reasons why he would leave (money, alma mater, family, etc), but I really believe he wants to finish what he started here and he realizes that Idaho is a coaching graveyard - career suicide. You heard it here first - Coach K turns down the offer with Idaho, signs a one-year contract with MSU, and takes the Cats to the FCS title game in 2007!
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:20 pm
by crazycat
It's not like whoever takes the Idaho job will be stepping into a gold mine. Erickson did little to get that program moving in the right direction. Sure you can point to their four wins, but take a look at who they beat. Idaho St. by 3. ISU barely stayed out of the bottom of our league. The three others were a combined 8-29 and three of those wins came against each other, while the three of the other five were against I-AA teams. ISU lost its last five something like 212-56. What Ariz. State sees in Erickson, I have no idea.
As for Kramer going to Idaho, I guess so. He would've went last year, so I don't know why he wouldn't this year. It'll be his last head coaching gig if he takes it. Yes, he was able to rebuild MSU, but we were the No. 2 team in the league in terms of facilities when he came here. Idaho is dead last in the WAC, or close to it. They don't even have their own home field. Pete Carroll could go there and still Idaho will never be good. They simply can't compete with that facility in that league.
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:22 pm
by MSU01
I definitely think Kramer would take the Idaho job if it were offered to him...closer to home and a shot at turning around a program at his alma mater.
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:26 pm
by crazycat
MSU01 wrote:I definitely think Kramer would take the Idaho job if it were offered to him...closer to home and a shot at turning around a program at his alma mater.
He, nor anyone else, has a shot at turning that program around. Forget it. It can't be done. The 4-8 record they had this year will be the best they will have in the next 10 years if they stay I-A.
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:46 pm
by MTBobcatFan
crazycat wrote:MSU01 wrote:I definitely think Kramer would take the Idaho job if it were offered to him...closer to home and a shot at turning around a program at his alma mater.
He, nor anyone else, has a shot at turning that program around. Forget it. It can't be done. The 4-8 record they had this year will be the best they will have in the next 10 years if they stay I-A.
This is a little off the topic but has there been a school that has jumped to I-A and later dropped back down to I-AA due to lack of success?
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:57 pm
by Hell's Bells
MTBobcatFan wrote:crazycat wrote:MSU01 wrote:I definitely think Kramer would take the Idaho job if it were offered to him...closer to home and a shot at turning around a program at his alma mater.
He, nor anyone else, has a shot at turning that program around. Forget it. It can't be done. The 4-8 record they had this year will be the best they will have in the next 10 years if they stay I-A.
This is a little off the topic but has there been a school that has jumped to I-A and later dropped back down to I-AA due to lack of success?
Marshall comes to mind but that was because of a plain crash
but if you are thinking what i am thinking about Idaho they would much rather kill off the program then go back into D1AA
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:59 pm
by BobCatFan
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:05 am
by coachouert
That article is about Idaho State, not Idaho.
As far as I'm concerned, I think people might be jumping the gun and overreacting. Nothing has been reported that Kramer is leaving, yet people are on here already thanking him for his time and talking about who should replace him. Maybe I'm being a bit to naive on this whole thing, but I think people should settle down and wait for some news. I know none of us like to do that, but at least wait until Kramer interviews or talks to someone from Idaho before we start thanking him for what he's done at MSU. The sky hasn't fallen yet. My two cents.
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:06 am
by MSU01
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why would Kramer be mentioned in a blog about candidates for the Idaho State job?
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:08 am
by bobcatgrad2005
Thanks for the memories coach K. Your Big Human presence reigned supreme in a state of big personalities. I appreciate what you made my college expericence be at MSU, and will be a Mike Kramer fan no matter the logo on the shirt you are wearing.
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:18 am
by MTBobcatFan
Hell's Bells wrote:MTBobcatFan wrote:crazycat wrote:MSU01 wrote:I definitely think Kramer would take the Idaho job if it were offered to him...closer to home and a shot at turning around a program at his alma mater.
He, nor anyone else, has a shot at turning that program around. Forget it. It can't be done. The 4-8 record they had this year will be the best they will have in the next 10 years if they stay I-A.
This is a little off the topic but has there been a school that has jumped to I-A and later dropped back down to I-AA due to lack of success?
Marshall comes to mind but that was because of a plain crash
but if you are thinking what i am thinking about Idaho they would much rather kill off the program then go back into D1AA
It was what I was thinking. With the failures of Idaho you'd think that they would figure out it's not working out for them at I-A level. I'm sure there are other teams out there that shouldn't be at I-A.
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:21 am
by MTBobcatFan
bobcatgrad2005 wrote:Thanks for the memories coach K. Your Big Human presence reigned supreme in a state of big personalities. I appreciate what you made my college expericence be at MSU, and will be a Mike Kramer fan no matter the logo on the shirt you are wearing.
Has he said he's leaving?
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:46 am
by Cat Grad
MTBobcatFan wrote:crazycat wrote:MSU01 wrote:I definitely think Kramer would take the Idaho job if it were offered to him...closer to home and a shot at turning around a program at his alma mater.
He, nor anyone else, has a shot at turning that program around. Forget it. It can't be done. The 4-8 record they had this year will be the best they will have in the next 10 years if they stay I-A.
This is a little off the topic but has there been a school that has jumped to I-A and later dropped back down to I-AA due to lack of success?
FAMU is the only one I know of in the last five years.
Idaho will be fine and it's simply a matter of time until the state ensures ISU joins them. The legislature will ensure Idaho, ISU and Boise are on equal footing financially, so it's not that Moscow won't get any support and whomever replaces Dennis as he rejoins his former colleagues in Tempe will benefit tremendously from the kids he's left via the redshirts and underclassmen. I'd say they stand a better chance of turning it around than San Jose and can't wait for the rest of the leage to put Boise back down where they belong.
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:12 am
by bcats
Kramer hasn't said that he is leaving yet but we shouldn't be surprised if he does. It is his alma mater and apparently most coaches do make changes based on higher wages and closer to home. The way Kramer promotes football for his program it wouldn't surprise me if he could turn that program around.
Now lets really speculate. It isn't the end of the world if Kramer leaves. He was never going to stay around for ever and there are other coaches with great credentials out there. Mike Van Diest comes to the for front and we need to get him. Four National Championships and the uncanny ability to recruit in the State of Montana are just two of the reasons they need to get him in. He would inherit a team on the verge of deep playoff runs for years to come. I brought up his name in September and am throwing it out now even before we know about Kramer's plans. I don't want Kramer to go but I know that there are other coaches out there.
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:58 am
by grizzh8r
crazycat wrote:It's not like whoever takes the Idaho job will be stepping into a gold mine. Erickson did little to get that program moving in the right direction. Sure you can point to their four wins, but take a look at who they beat. Idaho St. by 3. ISU barely stayed out of the bottom of our league. The three others were a combined 8-29 and three of those wins came against each other, while the three of the other five were against I-AA teams. ISU lost its last five something like 212-56. What Ariz. State sees in Erickson, I have no idea.
As for Kramer going to Idaho, I guess so. He would've went last year, so I don't know why he wouldn't this year. It'll be his last head coaching gig if he takes it. Yes, he was able to rebuild MSU, but we were the No. 2 team in the league in terms of facilities when he came here. Idaho is dead last in the WAC, or close to it. They don't even have their own home field. Pete Carroll could go there and still Idaho will never be good. They simply can't compete with that facility in that league.
Head Coach
Erickson's head coaching career began in December 1981, at age 34, when he was hired at the University of Idaho. Building on his reputation as an offensive innovator,
Erickson became Idaho's all-time winningest head coach in just four seasons with the Vandals (1982-85), taking them to the I-AA playoffs in his first and fourth seasons. His overall record was 32-15 (.680): 31-13 (.704) in the regular season and 1-2 in post season. His most notable recruits at Idaho were his quarterbacks: Scott Linehan and John Friesz. Erickson had revived Vandal football, turning it into a top I-AA program whose success was continued for another decade by Keith Gilbertson and John L. Smith.
He took his "spread offense" with him to Division I-A Wyoming in 1986 for a single season, then returned to the Palouse with Washington State of the Pac-10 for two (1987-88 ),
then on to the University of Miami (1989-94) for six seasons, winning two national championships. Erickson's .875 winning percentage (63-9) at Miami remains the highest in the history of the program.
Erickson was then hired as an NFL head coach, staying with the Seattle Seahawks for four seasons (1995-98 ), going 8-8 in his final season before being fired to make room for the available Mike Holmgren.
Erickson immediately went back to the college level with
Oregon State in 1999 for four seasons. During his second season in 2000, he led the Beavers to an 11-1 record, barely missing out on a national title game appearance. Oregon State handily defeated Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl 41-9.
He chose to return to the NFL in 2003 with the San Francisco 49ers, a team with salary cap problems, and lasted just two seasons before being released, going 2-14 in 2004. Erickson did not coach during the 2005 season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Erickson
That would be enough for me. The guy is a proven winner and a damn good coach.
