Coach Bailey

grizzz · Post by **grizzz** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:02 pm

Have you thought about having the A.D. sit down with the offense and see how they feel about the coach. I have heard he is not well respected. There have been 8 games in which the bobcats have not had 300 yards of offense. EIGHT. The talent is only part of it...the playcalling seems outrageous. The biggest play of the season..to tie the game..and he calls that.

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:04 pm

You mean like ODay and Phenecie do

grizzz · Post by **grizzz** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:09 pm

Not meaning to compare...fan of both teams. Would like to see success across Montana. Just don't think that Bailey is adequate for the bobcats. Average results should no longer be good enough.

STREETCAT · Post by **STREETCAT** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:11 pm

grizzz wrote:Not meaning to compare...fan of both teams. Would like to see success across Montana. Just don't think that Bailey is adequate for the bobcats. Average results should no longer be good enough.

agreed. We will never win another National Championsip with a sub-par offensive cordinatior!!!!! Maybe baily shold check with the high school

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:12 pm

Not to nitpick, grizzz, but by my count, we surpassed 300 total yards offensively in 5 of our 13 games this season, but you're right, that is still not an acceptable # for a program trying to become a national contender.

As far as having the AD "take the pulse" of the team regarding an OC? I really think that's the head coach's responsibility; any good head coach should have a pretty good feel for how his kids feel about and are interacting with their position coaches and/or coordinators. If I were a head coach and my AD tried to "bypass" me in that way, I'd be pretty steamed but I DO think it's a great idea for an AD to sit down with his head coach(es) and evaluate them & their staff following every season...

Cat Grad · Post by **Cat Grad** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:15 pm

I don't know where the cool, calm determined and businesslike approach comes from, but I'd kind of like to see the offense have the same emotional intensity the defense has prior to the plays.

Post by **kmax** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:18 pm

El_Gato wrote:Not to nitpick, grizzz, but by my count, we surpassed 300 total yards offensively in 5 of our 13 games this season,

13-5=8

Which would be why he said:

grizzz wrote: There have been 8 games in which the bobcats have not had 300 yards of offense. EIGHT. .

Cat Grad · Post by **Cat Grad** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:23 pm

kmax wrote:
El_Gato wrote:Not to nitpick, grizzz, but by my count, we surpassed 300 total yards offensively in 5 of our 13 games this season,
13-5=8

Which would be why he said:

grizzz wrote: There have been 8 games in which the bobcats have not had 300 yards of offense. EIGHT. .

Why do you have to be so picky

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:25 pm

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument Kmax

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:29 pm

my bad...

1BadBobcat · Post by **1BadBobcat** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:31 pm

El Gato was just using UM math so as not to confuse grizzz

Helcat72 · Post by **Helcat72** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:31 pm

I think our lack of offense was not really Bailey's fault. We lost two running bgacks at different times with not much quality backup. the QB situation was iffy for most of the year. The playcalling wasn't the problem it was the execution. The only other thing he could have done is change the system to fit Jack's ability more...less picking out a receiver and more go to this one or that one (two choices...then run)

Post by **kmax** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:37 pm

Cat Grad wrote:
kmax wrote:
El_Gato wrote:Not to nitpick, grizzz, but by my count, we surpassed 300 total yards offensively in 5 of our 13 games this season,
13-5=8

Which would be why he said:

grizzz wrote: There have been 8 games in which the bobcats have not had 300 yards of offense. EIGHT. .
Why do you have to be so picky

Sorry, bad habit I guess.

bobcatbob · Post by **bobcatbob** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:41 pm

I have to disagree on that one Helena Cat. All teams have injuries. The coache's job is to make adjutments, ensure that the players are executing, eliminate confusion and penalties. Overall, there wasn't anywhere near the same level of performance as on the defensive side. With all the weapons we had we should have done much better on offense. Like I have said, if we want to be a top team we have to do better!

Cat Grad · Post by **Cat Grad** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:01 pm

All the motion, wrong snap counts, and timeouts are indicative of not being prepared BUT how many different lineups did we see this year? How many busted plays do we know about because of kids not knowing the playbook (and whose fault is that ultimately?) First couple of games Mason was in he went the wrong way leaving Rolo hanging, Jefferson supposedly running the wrong route, etc....

Here's the deal: is this a problem because of our recruiting drop downs and throwing them into a complex system without giving them the time to learn the plays? Didn't seem to do too badly against Colorado and then getting a whole new playbook is what the Chadron game looked like. The tendency that began the fourth quarter against Ape showed itself just before half against Davis--getting greedy and instead of going into halftime down just a touch or perhaps tied? And then the EWU game? And I've been a defender because of all the injuries, but I think most of us looking back would say we should have simplified things for the new kids based upon the results. Hindsight is always 20-20 and I'm sure the Huge Human has dealt with all of this.

They've just got to get into the weight room and get ready for spring ball. Hope whoever the jc transfers we pick up are here in January so they can go through spring ball. But in the mean time, what do we talk about?????

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:22 pm

Helcat72 wrote:I think our lack of offense was not really Bailey's fault. We lost two running bgacks at different times with not much quality backup. the QB situation was iffy for most of the year. The playcalling wasn't the problem it was the execution. The only other thing he could have done is change the system to fit Jack's ability more...less picking out a receiver and more go to this one or that one (two choices...then run)

I tend to agree with your assessment, and with RB injuries we had to rely on the pass at times. For the most part the 'O' line did a great job and it appeared apparent when the coaches broke down game film that there were open receivers time after time after time.

Admittedly, the 'O' line was getting beat early in the App. St. game. I'm not one to belittle any athlete, but Rolo definitely had the 'deer in the headlights' look in his eyes in that game.

Last spring we started out with one QB (Carp) who had been with the system but had literally no playing time, and Rolo who had to quickly learn the system. Both played damn well given the circumstances. This spring we have two QBs coming back, both with playing experience, and a very promising redshirt QB who has been with the system a year.

We lost a quarterfinal playoff game to the #1 team in the nation at their house 48 hours ago and we have keyboard experts calling for coaching changes. Give me a break!!

I feel damn good about next year!! Go Cats!!!!

bobcatbob · Post by **bobcatbob** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:40 pm

I am not calling for Coaching changes. That's Coach Kramer's decison. I think my point is we need to get the offense on a conistent note week after week if we want to be a top level team. It would be unrealistic to plan around not having injuries next year. They happen and we need to be prepared no matter what. I think we all recognize that. I am confident that Coach Kramer will do the right things to move us in that direction. I think our offenisve & defensive players will benefit from the playoff games this year. They now know first hand what type of effort it takes to get to the finish line.

I am excited about next year already! GO CATS!

MacAdoo · Post by **MacAdoo** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:41 pm

I flew to Boone and was very impressed with hoe our team kept plugging away and not getting rattled. I was appalled that they called that end around play, but if it had been successful, everyone would be saying what a gutzy call. I am no fan of Bailey, mainly because of all the ephasis on geting the ball to the number 1 or 2 receiver. What do we have tight ends for? I can't count all the times in Boone that our tight ends were wide open. But obviously, our QB's are trained to not even look at them. It is pretty easy to defend an offense that doesn't spread the wealth! Basically , though, execution killed us.

Gen4Bobcat · Post by **Gen4Bobcat** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:28 pm

MacAdoo wrote:I flew to Boone and was very impressed with hoe our team kept plugging away and not getting rattled. I was appalled that they called that end around play, but if it had been successful, everyone would be saying what a gutzy call. I am no fan of Bailey, mainly because of all the ephasis on geting the ball to the number 1 or 2 receiver. What do we have tight ends for? I can't count all the times in Boone that our tight ends were wide open. But obviously, our QB's are trained to not even look at them. It is pretty easy to defend an offense that doesn't spread the wealth! Basically , though, execution killed us.

I, too, went to the game in Boone and was impressed by our team. The ASU fans we bantered with throughout the game were plenty worried when the score was 24-17. I told them not to worry, because our OC would call a play that would make us look foolish. I heard that even the TV guys were wondering about the wisdom of the end around. We had been moving the ball effectively before that.

I would give Coach Bailey a C+. Certainly injuries hurt, but the receiving corps and running backs turned out to be surprisingly deep. In the middle of the season, the tight ends were used extensively, and the screen pass was non-existent. In the playoffs, it was just the opposite. The ASU fans kept asking why we never threw to the tightends for short completions against the furocious rush. I had no answer. I also thought Taito would have been effective pounding inside against their smaller line (the ASU guys agreed). Giving up on the running game was also a problem I observed this season. All in all, I would never want the OC job (because of guys like me), so they all have my respect.

Cat Grad · Post by **Cat Grad** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:30 pm

Gen4Bobcat wrote:
MacAdoo wrote:I flew to Boone and was very impressed with hoe our team kept plugging away and not getting rattled. I was appalled that they called that end around play, but if it had been successful, everyone would be saying what a gutzy call. I am no fan of Bailey, mainly because of all the ephasis on geting the ball to the number 1 or 2 receiver. What do we have tight ends for? I can't count all the times in Boone that our tight ends were wide open. But obviously, our QB's are trained to not even look at them. It is pretty easy to defend an offense that doesn't spread the wealth! Basically , though, execution killed us.
I, too, went to the game in Boone and was impressed by our team. The ASU fans we bantered with throughout the game were plenty worried when the score was 24-17. I told them not to worry, because our OC would call a play that would make us look foolish. I heard that even the TV guys were wondering about the wisdom of the end around. We had been moving the ball effectively before that.

I would give Coach Bailey a C+. Certainly injuries hurt, but the receiving corps and running backs turned out to be surprisingly deep. In the middle of the season, the tight ends were used extensively, and the screen pass was non-existent. In the playoffs, it was just the opposite. The ASU fans kept asking why we never threw to the tightends for short completions against the furocious rush. I had no answer. I also thought Taito would have been effective pounding inside against their smaller line (the ASU guys agreed). Giving up on the running game was also a problem I observed this season. All in all, I would never want the OC job (because of guys like me), so they all have my respect.

Amen brother!

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