Chawn Johnson left because of Huse's BullSh**

msu1fan · Post by **msu1fan** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:01 pm

Another mistake by Bad Huse! He treated another Good Basketball player!
(Chawn Johnson) like crap and Chawn found out! and left.
BAD Huse is a stupid ass too me! i think being around to many grizzlies really gets to your head!

1BadBobcat · Post by **1BadBobcat** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:17 pm

Again, if this is true, anyone knows that a new coach coming into a program is trying to put his stamp on it. Look at Coach Kramer when he was hired - he cleaned house. The first season or two were really rough, but look at where we have progressed. I'm sure Coach Huse is doing the same. Sometimes you need to cut loose some decent players in order to implement the type of ball you want your team playing.

msu1fan · Post by **msu1fan** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:22 pm

1BadBobcat wrote:Again, if this is true, anyone knows that a new coach coming into a program is trying to put his stamp on it. Look at Coach Kramer when he was hired - he cleaned house. The first season or two were really rough, but look at where we have progressed. I'm sure Coach Huse is doing the same. Sometimes you need to cut loose some decent players in order to implement the type of ball you want your team playing.

i know Chawn. He over heard Huse Talk ****** about him and Chawn Left. he Hand'd in his Jersey a couple days ago and Huse begg'd to make him stay. huse is a dumbass. Chawn is a good kid. he doesn't drink and do anything.huse didn't like him because he was friends with Q. and huse treat'd Chawn with no respect at all. i don't like Huse at all. he let go of D. Edmonds cuz he had a kid nothing about the grades. huse is messin up right now bad!

94VegasCat · Post by **94VegasCat** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:02 am

He's the COACH. None of us are. He gets paid to make these decisions not those of us on a message board.

Post by **kmax** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:02 am

msu1fan-

I will say the same things that I did when this was done by another poster. Give the information, hey even give your opinion that what has happened really sucks and you don't like. But DO NOT start in with the personal attacks against Huse (and the same goes for any coach, player, staff or for that matter person on this board) and DO NOT start rumors about reasons that are your speculation and cannot be backed up. I know it can be difficult not to vent when you know someone personally, but take two steps back and think how it would be if someone had come on here and done the same thing about Chawn or another player that you know. Remember, there is always another side to the story that you will likely never know. Lastly, one post on this subject is enough, please don't double post things across multiple forums.

LTown Cat · Post by **LTown Cat** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:22 am

94VegasCat wrote:He's the COACH. None of us are. He gets paid to make these decisions not those of us on a message board.

Agree 100%. I said it in the Wilson post and I'll say it again. He is the coach. It is his decision. He decides who stays and who doesn't. If Johnson left over hearing something then there were obvious clashes there anyways. Furthermore, whether or not all fans like the coach is irrelevant and I doubt Huse cares because he wouldn't expect everybody to agree with him.

tetoncat · Post by **tetoncat** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:26 am

I think the title of this post is wrong. msu1fan starts it by saying Huse let Chawn go. Then he adds a post that Chawn overheard something, turned his jersey in, and Huse begged him to stay. He he was begging him then Huse really did not want chawn to go and it is Chawn who chose to leave. Which one happened we may never know but 1fan you need to clarify your story before bashing Huse as even you contradicted yourself.

Post by **rtb** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:43 am

A coach has to have players that he can coach and work well with his system. Coach Huse didn't bring these guys in and there are simply some personalities that can't work together. Like it or not that is the way a team works and the COACH has to make a decision on how to make his team successful. Maybe losing out on a little short term success will result in a lot more long term success.

I am VERY happy that Coach Huse is here and we haven't seen the teams he can put on the floor so it isn't fair to question him at this point.

LTown Cat · Post by **LTown Cat** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:47 am

On a side note if you were to ask Coach Huse he would flat out tell you they aren't going to be very good for a couple of years, so I don't want people posting in February and March about how he needs to go because the Cats had a bad record. As someone else just posted----remember Kramer's first year or two. It takes time.

catmom · Post by **catmom** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:38 am

I wasn't going to post anything on this because it really doesn't matter what the truth is. Just think about this.

You have a kid that is polite, respectful, doesn't drink (and I mean DOES NOT DRINK), comes to practice and does what he is supposed to do, is well liked by all the players, does extra things off the court to keep his body health and does his studies. One would think that you would be jumping up and down that you don't have a problem with at least one player.

That is all that I am going to say other than I am really going to miss this kid and I will be interested in seeing what kind of bs that gets put in the paper about this. Also, they should be luck that I am not his mom.

duelalumnicat · Post by **duelalumnicat** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:54 am

But catmom, if this information is true, it appears that Chawn, for whatever reason, chose to leave. How is that Coach Huse's fault when practice doesn't even start for another two months? I hope this information is not true. Quitting is bad because it can become a habit.

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:03 pm

catmom wrote:I wasn't going to post anything on this because it really doesn't matter what the truth is. Just think about this.

You have a kid that is polite, respectful, doesn't drink (and I mean DOES NOT DRINK), comes to practice and does what he is supposed to do, is well liked by all the players, does extra things off the court to keep his body health and does his studies. One would think that you would be jumping up and down that you don't have a problem with at least one player.

That is all that I am going to say other than I am really going to miss this kid and I will be interested in seeing what kind of bs that gets put in the paper about this. Also, they should be luck that I am not his mom.

I don't know how in the world Fields and the search committee missed on Huse? I mean, given what happened with Wilson and Johnson (according to their defenders) Huse must be drunk, rude, dishonest, and a total idiot.

Weird.

Catmom, I thought you were these kids' mom. Maybe that's why you only get half the story?

Puhleeze!

PapaG · Post by **PapaG** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:06 pm

msu1fan wrote:He over heard Huse Talk ****** about him and Chawn Left. he Hand'd in his Jersey a couple days ago and Huse begg'd to make him stay. huse is a dumbass!

So Chawn Johnson literally took his ball and went home because he heard his coach say something bad about him?

If true, good riddance. Once a quitter, always a quitter.

LTown Cat · Post by **LTown Cat** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:09 pm

The bottom line here is that none of this matters. IT IS HIS TEAM TO MANAGE AS HE SEES FIT!

The only people with real problems with what he is doing are the people who are emotionally attached to the players no longer with us. I feel bad, but who in the hell expected him to simply come in and roll with things the way they were. That would defeat the purpose of even hiring somebody new. We should have just talked Durham into staying until he dies---or any coach at any institution for that matter. There would be no reason to ever change.

Let the guy start his own legacy. I bet I can find people attached to the program who have nothing but good to say about him.

Helcat72 · Post by **Helcat72** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:38 pm

If he heard Huse say something about him he should have confronted him and had it out right there. If he really wanted to be a part of this team he would have reached an understanding with the coach after all who is the boss around that program? If he really didn't want to be a part of the team he obviously chose the right path.

Geez...what would happen if he heard some fans say something bad about him if he had a bad game? Would he refuse to come out of the locker room?

Platinumcat · Post by **Platinumcat** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:58 pm

I usually don't take part in b-ball discussions. But, I will on this one:

1) I agree that Coach Huse has the right to come in and clean house as he deems fit. As has been mentioned, Kramer did the same thing when he first arrived. This is a must for someone trying to turn around a program.

2) I also have no reason to doubt what msu1fan has relayed; it does sound like he is personally tied to Chawn. If Huse was talking in an open environment about one of his players he should use a certain amount of discretion in these situations. If it is touchy info, it should be done behind closed doors in his office. I've always remembered something my first boss told me....loose lips sink ships!

3) I find it very interesting that Chawn, who by several accounts sounds like an ideal person to have involved with our university athletics, chose to leave because of this ONE comment. Either this was an unforgivable HU
GELY terrible single comment, or it was the straw that broke the camel's back. As a former collegiate athlete, I would think that Chawn's personality would have been able to deal with a single instance. This lead's me to wonder if it wasn't the end of a string of factors that caused him to feel this way.

In the end, I hope that Chawn finds a place to finish out his degree. He certainly sounds like a "solid" person. So, good luck to you Chawn!!

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:59 pm

Helcat72 wrote:If he heard Huse say something about him he should have confronted him and had it out right there. If he really wanted to be a part of this team he would have reached an understanding with the coach after all who is the boss around that program? If he really didn't want to be a part of the team he obviously chose the right path.

Geez...what would happen if he heard some fans say something bad about him if he had a bad game? Would he refuse to come out of the locker room?

I don't know all the details, but if he quit because of an argument/misunderstanding with the coach (and it was the first time that had happened) then I say it is good we are losing him now rather than later. I do not want that type of player playing for us down the clutch when times are tough (fans/arenas/pressure etc.). Huse has the right to meld this team to his style and system. Now 2-3 years down the line we need to be making progress, but I think we will get that from Huse and I even bet we OVERACHIEVE the first 1-2 years in his system.

profisme · Post by **profisme** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:02 pm

I can tell you for a fact that it wasn't Chawn's decision to go. I spoke with Chawn today and the situation isn't a good one, but there are few people as respectful and hardworking as this kid. He was given the option of leaving yesterday or being cut on Saturday which would have left him no time to get into any school. He was lucky that he got into Lancaster, they only let him in because he was informed he was being cut so late. I am sad to see him go, but happy that he will have an opportunity to play at a JC so he can prove himself to a legit D1 powerhouse.

I don't know why Coach Huse decided to let him go so late, but one way or another, it is a sad situation for a kid who really really wanted to be here in Bozeman playing for the Bobcats. I, for one, wish Chawn nothing but the best and I'm sure he will get an opportunity somewhere.

catmom · Post by **catmom** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:03 pm

Ok, I don't just listen to what is said by just the players. I also don't think all these kids are saints (not everyone that is an athlete is invited to this house). I do have eyes and ears other places.

As I have already said that I can understand why he let Q go. I just didn't like how dirty it was done. He was screwed by this school plain and simple. If this was your son or daughter getting treated like this you would be very discusted and pissed off. They don't give a damn what I have to say up there just as much as you don't. (maybe if I had a penis and a million dollars they would)

Regarding Chawn, how he had been treated is just crap IMHO. I am not going to put it out for the world to see because you don't believe what I have to say anyway and that turns out to be a waste of my time. I have also said that I have not met Coach yet so I am trying to be open minded. But I can only go by what I see and hear. God knows he probably won't like me. I can guarantee that he is not going to care if I like him and visa versa.

Chawn is going to a JC program and continuing to get his degree. Hopefully they will appreciate this wonderful and hard working young man.

Do you honestly think this was an easy decision? This has been very hard for this young man. He has tried everything to get on Coach's good side and so has his parents. Whatever.

Bigdog in Catsnation · Post by **Bigdog in Catsnation** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:42 pm

Ok, first let me start off by saying that I have joined the discussion because I know the Kid and I can tell you that he has not done anything wrong. Chawn was not liked by Coach Huse in the beginning, BAD Huse never had nothing nice to say about Chawn since he got there. In June Chawn had the opportunity to leave and go to other schools (that were interested in him) and play ball. Chawn told me that he truly liked the people, the area, the University and most of all his teammates here at MSU. Chawn gave up the opportunities to go to other schools because he wanted to show all of us MSU fans how he could play and he worked hard at staying clean and out of trouble up here.

Chawn went home in June for the summer and was called by Coach Huse and staff to give up his summer and come back to work out with the team. Chawn did that, he stayed with teammates, slept on the floor and got a job to support himself during the summer. After doing that throughout the summer, Chawn never complained about the coach, never complained about his living situation to me. He did what he had to do, because the coach made him come back immediately with nowhere to go or stay.

Chawn was asked to do things I know I would not have done, just to keep his scholarship. After Bad Hose finally got some kids signed and able to play, he had no use for Chawn. He just disregarded him and gave him the option to leave or sit and don't play and then probably get cut anyway next year.

Chawn had to leave so he could get into a Junior College in time to be eligible to play this year. Don't make the mistake and think that Chawn left because he could not handle the pressure, he did not leave because he heard something, he did not leave because he was not going to be liked by the coaches, he left because it is the only option he had to continue his life.

I wish Chawn well in his future and I hope he stops by Bobcat Nation and post the real story, so you all can really know the man that we were forced to call Head Coach.