LETS TALK FOOTBALL BABY!!!!

[supercat]

camp starts wed august 9th.they have to report monday the 7th but dont practice till wed.probably same schedule as last year with the first 3 days without pads with saturday being the first day of smash mouth football baby!!!!i just cant wait.anyway one making practices and taking pics. i want to see how big the o and d lines look.i bet they're mosters....i love bobcat football...lets get this started!!!

[MSUcantouchus]

I also can't wait for practice and all that to start. The one question I have is, are there 7 on 7 practices without coaches already going on? The team that sports light pink and grey are doing it from what I hear.

One of the things I have been thinking about is the UC Davis game. They were real good last year and their Qb is back and made preseason 2nd team 1-aa. I have yet to do any research on them but I think alot of us have overlooked them. This game will not be a cake walk.

Another thing that has me worried a bit is the loss of D cordinator, coach K. He had to factor in as a lot of the reason we were always so good on D, right? Maybe Kramer has more of a hand in the D than I thought? I just don't know. Any thoughts on this?

[crazycat]

Everyone is focused on the conference schedule, but Davis is the biggest non-con game we have. That game probably holds a playoff berth if we don't win the league auto-bid, so it's a must win game. Chadron is can't lose game in that we can't lose that and expect anything.

[supercat]

i think the D will be fine with coach christoff.he has been under coach K for awhile and i think he brings the same intensity if not more then coach k.coach christoff is i think going to be great.

[CelticCat]

FYI the Griz usually start fall practice earlier than 90% of I-AA teams, have for years.

[HelenaCat95]

FYI the Griz usually start fall practice earlier than 90% of I-AA teams, have for years.

How can they do that? There are NCAA regulations as to when, and how many practices you can have during summer camp. If I remember correctly, we messed up 2-3 years ago, and had to "give back" a practice or two (I think we just gave a couple of extra days of rest during our bye week).
I am curious as to how they can do that.

[kmax]

FYI the Griz usually start fall practice earlier than 90% of I-AA teams, have for years.

How can they do that? There are NCAA regulations as to when, and how many practices you can have during summer camp. If I remember correctly, we messed up 2-3 years ago, and had to "give back" a practice or two (I think we just gave a couple of extra days of rest during our bye week).
I am curious as to how they can do that.

They probably just have a few more days off during camp to ensure they don't go over the max number.

[HelenaCat95]

FYI the Griz usually start fall practice earlier than 90% of I-AA teams, have for years.

How can they do that? There are NCAA regulations as to when, and how many practices you can have during summer camp. If I remember correctly, we messed up 2-3 years ago, and had to "give back" a practice or two (I think we just gave a couple of extra days of rest during our bye week).
I am curious as to how they can do that.

They probably just have a few more days off during camp to ensure they don't go over the max number.

That could be, but I thought there was also a regulation that you couldn't start practice prior to a certain date. Otherwise teams could begin on June 1, and just have two practices a week, thereby keeping guys on campus - I know it's a ridiculous scenario.
I'll go on the ncaa site and see what I can find.

[kmax]

FYI the Griz usually start fall practice earlier than 90% of I-AA teams, have for years.

How can they do that? There are NCAA regulations as to when, and how many practices you can have during summer camp. If I remember correctly, we messed up 2-3 years ago, and had to "give back" a practice or two (I think we just gave a couple of extra days of rest during our bye week).
I am curious as to how they can do that.

They probably just have a few more days off during camp to ensure they don't go over the max number.

That could be, but I thought there was also a regulation that you couldn't start practice prior to a certain date. Otherwise teams could begin on June 1, and just have two practices a week, thereby keeping guys on campus - I know it's a ridiculous scenario.
I'll go on the ncaa site and see what I can find.

Here ya go, from the DI manual. Maybe Grizlaw can figure out all that legalese.

In determining the first permissible preseason practice date, an institution shall count back from its first scheduled contest, one unit for each day beginning with the opening of classes, one unit for each day classes are not in session in the week of the first scheduled intercollegiate contest and two units for each other day in the preseason practice period, except that the institution shall not count any units during the preseason when all institutional dormitories are closed, the institution's team must leave campus, and practice is not conducted.

And for football, that is defined with:

A member institution shall not commence official preseason football practice sessions, for the varsity, junior varsity or freshman team, prior to the date that will permit a maximum of 40 units (see Bylaw 17.02.11) prior to its first scheduled intercollegiate game. During the preseason practice period, institutions may not engage in more than 29 on-field practice sessions (see Bylaw 17.11.2.5.1).

[HelenaCat95]

Well here is what I found.

17.10.2.1 First Practice Date. A member institution shall not commence official preseason football
practice sessions, for the varsity, junior varsity or freshman team, prior to the date that will permit a
maximum of 29 practice opportunities (see Bylaw 17.02.11) prior to its first scheduled intercollegiate
game, except as provided for student-athletes who are first-time participants (see Bylaw 17.10.2.4).
(Revised: 1/11/89)


I don't know if I found accurate or up-to-date info. But the way I read it, they could start any time they want, as long as they only practice (and it goes on to define practice) a maximum of 29 times prior to the first game. If someone else knows otherwise, please correct me.

If this is indeed true, why would we not start on Aug. 1 (for example) and give guys an extra day of rest here and there, and to rehab minor injuries?

[HelenaCat95]

FYI the Griz usually start fall practice earlier than 90% of I-AA teams, have for years.

How can they do that? There are NCAA regulations as to when, and how many practices you can have during summer camp. If I remember correctly, we messed up 2-3 years ago, and had to "give back" a practice or two (I think we just gave a couple of extra days of rest during our bye week).
I am curious as to how they can do that.

They probably just have a few more days off during camp to ensure they don't go over the max number.

That could be, but I thought there was also a regulation that you couldn't start practice prior to a certain date. Otherwise teams could begin on June 1, and just have two practices a week, thereby keeping guys on campus - I know it's a ridiculous scenario.
I'll go on the ncaa site and see what I can find.

Here ya go, from the DI manual. Maybe Grizlaw can figure out all that legalese.

In determining the first permissible preseason practice date, an institution shall count back from its first scheduled contest, one unit for each day beginning with the opening of classes, one unit for each day classes are not in session in the week of the first scheduled intercollegiate contest and two units for each other day in the preseason practice period, except that the institution shall not count any units during the preseason when all institutional dormitories are closed, the institution's team must leave campus, and practice is not conducted.

Ok, I can't understand it either. But, it does appear that it does fix it at a certain date, that may indeed vary from institution to institution - although I can't figure out how.
I can see how we screwed it up a few years back

[kmax]

Well here is what I found.

17.10.2.1 First Practice Date. A member institution shall not commence official preseason football
practice sessions, for the varsity, junior varsity or freshman team, prior to the date that will permit a
maximum of 29 practice opportunities (see Bylaw 17.02.11) prior to its first scheduled intercollegiate
game, except as provided for student-athletes who are first-time participants (see Bylaw 17.10.2.4).
(Revised: 1/11/89)


I don't know if I found accurate or up-to-date info. But the way I read it, they could start any time they want, as long as they only practice (and it goes on to define practice) a maximum of 29 times prior to the first game. If someone else knows otherwise, please correct me.

If this is indeed true, why would we not start on Aug. 1 (for example) and give guys an extra day of rest here and there, and to rehab minor injuries?

I added the extra rule to mine in an edit after you posted. In addition to the 29 practices, it can't be more than 40 "units" (see first definition with all the legal stuff) before the first game.

[mslacat]

You guy's mssed this subsection, in very fine print.

17.10.2.16.12d.23465.1254G.1r.34i.5z
Exception: the University of Montana may start there practices any time Hauck wishes becuase his #@%^* does not stink!

[Billings_Griz]

You guy's mssed this subsection, in very fine print.

17.10.2.16.12d.23465.1254G.1r.34i.5z
Exception: the University of Montana may start there practices any time Hauck wishes becuase his #@%^* does not stink!

You're learnin'.

[MSUcantouchus]

I dont think coaches are at the practices.

[HelenaCat95]

Back to the subject at hand - FOOTBALL, Baby

How are they looking? Who has arrived back on campus? etc, etc




(sorry, I think I'm responsible for the NCAA practice rule tangent)

[Hell's Bells]

You guy's mssed this subsection, in very fine print.

17.10.2.16.12d.23465.1254G.1r.34i.5z
Exception: the University of Montana may start there practices any time Hauck wishes becuase his #@%^* does not stink!

you forgot somthing

the University of Montana may hold as many practices as possible during the timespan of first practice and first game.

[GrizinWashington]

I think you guys are mistaken. The Griz hold the same amount of practices in August that everyone esle does. But they certainly tend to hold way more of them in December than most teams!

[HelenaCat95]

I think you guys are mistaken. The Griz hold the same amount of practices in August that everyone esle does. But they certainly tend to hold way more of them in December than most teams!

Ok, that's pretty funny.

[CARDIAC_CATS]

I think you guys are mistaken. The Griz hold the same amount of practices in August that everyone esle does. But they certainly tend to hold way more of them in December than most teams!

I think I just heard Cal Poly score again .. yepp ... BOOOM .. Another TD!