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How the Hell?

Post by BFcatfan » Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm

Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.


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Re: How the Hell?

Post by tetoncat » Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm

BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.


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Re: How the Hell?

Post by BFcatfan » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…


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Re: How the Hell?

Post by ClowderUp » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm

How the hell is there a new thread on this?



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Re: How the Hell?

Post by RockyBearCat » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:13 pm

BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…
SF Austin was mimicking snap count all night.



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Re: How the Hell?

Post by jgrilley406 » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:19 pm

RockyBearCat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:13 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…
SF Austin was mimicking snap count all night.
Ya they got called for it a few times but I’m sure it was happening all night and they just only got caught a couple times…really hard to hear/catch it from happening



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Re: How the Hell?

Post by BFcatfan » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:23 pm

RockyBearCat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:13 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…
SF Austin was mimicking snap count all night.
I’m no wizard here but isn’t there a different way to make that not happen and why all the sudden is this an issue. Because if it’s that easy why don’t all teams do it. Lack of focus by our O line maybe. Call me stupid but having an hard time understanding how that happens.


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Re: How the Hell?

Post by BOBCATBORN » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:26 pm

BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:23 pm
RockyBearCat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:13 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…
SF Austin was mimicking snap count all night.
I’m no wizard here but isn’t there a different way to make that not happen and why all the sudden is this an issue. Because if it’s that easy why don’t all teams do it. Lack of focus by our O line maybe. Call me stupid but having an hard time understanding how that happens.
Most teams have more class than that. It’s a lowly attempt to get penalties. You can see teams like the Gris doing it



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Re: How the Hell?

Post by 91catAlum » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:50 pm

BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:23 pm
RockyBearCat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:13 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…
SF Austin was mimicking snap count all night.
I’m no wizard here but isn’t there a different way to make that not happen and why all the sudden is this an issue. Because if it’s that easy why don’t all teams do it. Lack of focus by our O line maybe. Call me stupid but having an hard time understanding how that happens.
I imagine it's pretty hard to avoid if you're an O lineman, and you're trying to listen for the QB to yell "set, hut. Hut" and one of the D linemen yells HUT. It's probably easy to mistake that for a real signal, and false start.


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Re: How the Hell?

Post by tetoncat » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:56 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:50 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:23 pm
RockyBearCat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:13 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…
SF Austin was mimicking snap count all night.
I’m no wizard here but isn’t there a different way to make that not happen and why all the sudden is this an issue. Because if it’s that easy why don’t all teams do it. Lack of focus by our O line maybe. Call me stupid but having an hard time understanding how that happens.
I imagine it's pretty hard to avoid if you're an O lineman, and you're trying to listen for the QB to yell "set, hut. Hut" and one of the D linemen yells HUT. It's probably easy to mistake that for a real signal, and false start.
Or they clap. Just odd refs can't hear that when Cats on O and stadium is quiet.


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Re: How the Hell?

Post by catatac » Sat Dec 13, 2025 8:34 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:56 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:50 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:23 pm
RockyBearCat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:13 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…
SF Austin was mimicking snap count all night.
I’m no wizard here but isn’t there a different way to make that not happen and why all the sudden is this an issue. Because if it’s that easy why don’t all teams do it. Lack of focus by our O line maybe. Call me stupid but having an hard time understanding how that happens.
I imagine it's pretty hard to avoid if you're an O lineman, and you're trying to listen for the QB to yell "set, hut. Hut" and one of the D linemen yells HUT. It's probably easy to mistake that for a real signal, and false start.
Or they clap. Just odd refs can't hear that when Cats on O and stadium is quiet.
We were talking about this last night and today. Does anybody know what the actual rule about this is? I'm too lazy to look it up, lol. Is it really a rule that no defenders can say the work "Hut"? What about "Butt"? Sor of joking there but how does the rule read? Also, they are not allowed to clap? I guess what I'm getting at, is the defense is also communicating with play calls, yelling plays, hand signals, etc. Just wondering how that rule actually works.


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Re: How the Hell?

Post by tetoncat » Sat Dec 13, 2025 8:39 pm

catatac wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 8:34 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:56 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:50 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:23 pm
RockyBearCat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:13 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…
SF Austin was mimicking snap count all night.
I’m no wizard here but isn’t there a different way to make that not happen and why all the sudden is this an issue. Because if it’s that easy why don’t all teams do it. Lack of focus by our O line maybe. Call me stupid but having an hard time understanding how that happens.
I imagine it's pretty hard to avoid if you're an O lineman, and you're trying to listen for the QB to yell "set, hut. Hut" and one of the D linemen yells HUT. It's probably easy to mistake that for a real signal, and false start.
Or they clap. Just odd refs can't hear that when Cats on O and stadium is quiet.
We were talking about this last night and today. Does anybody know what the actual rule about this is? I'm too lazy to look it up, lol. Is it really a rule that no defenders can say the work "Hut"? What about "Butt"? Sor of joking there but how does the rule read? Also, they are not allowed to clap? I guess what I'm getting at, is the defense is also communicating with play calls, yelling plays, hand signals, etc. Just wondering how that rule actually works.
Not sure how rule reads. Essentially can't simulate snap. So I think of QB is clapping they can't I'd saying hut, mimicking that isn't allowed.


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Re: How the Hell?

Post by RyeCat » Sat Dec 13, 2025 8:50 pm

A defender may not use words, sounds, or signals that simulate the offensive snap or quarterback cadence while lined up near the line of scrimmage and facing the offense.

The intent of the rule is to prevent:
• Inducing a false start
• Creating unfair confusion
• Gaining an advantage by deception rather than reaction

What Is Illegal
Defenders cannot:
• Yell “HUT,” “HIKE,” “SET,” “GO,” or similar cadence words
• Clap, stomp, or make sudden sounds that imitate the snap
• Use hand signals or head bobs that resemble the center’s snap motion
• Coordinate vocal cues timed to the offense’s cadence

Even one player doing this can draw the foul



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Re: How the Hell?

Post by catatac » Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:54 pm

RyeCat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 8:50 pm
A defender may not use words, sounds, or signals that simulate the offensive snap or quarterback cadence while lined up near the line of scrimmage and facing the offense.

The intent of the rule is to prevent:
• Inducing a false start
• Creating unfair confusion
• Gaining an advantage by deception rather than reaction

What Is Illegal
Defenders cannot:
• Yell “HUT,” “HIKE,” “SET,” “GO,” or similar cadence words
• Clap, stomp, or make sudden sounds that imitate the snap
• Use hand signals or head bobs that resemble the center’s snap motion
• Coordinate vocal cues timed to the offense’s cadence

Even one player doing this can draw the foul
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Re: How the Hell?

Post by BFcatfan » Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:10 am

91catAlum wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:50 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:23 pm
RockyBearCat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:13 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…
SF Austin was mimicking snap count all night.
I’m no wizard here but isn’t there a different way to make that not happen and why all the sudden is this an issue. Because if it’s that easy why don’t all teams do it. Lack of focus by our O line maybe. Call me stupid but having an hard time understanding how that happens.
I imagine it's pretty hard to avoid if you're an O lineman, and you're trying to listen for the QB to yell "set, hut. Hut" and one of the D linemen yells HUT. It's probably easy to mistake that for a real signal, and false start.
I would think you could have few key words that could be used like the infamous “Omaha” or “Pandas” then it’s on the number of huts. As a line man you don’t clue in until you hear the code word, and drop several of them every snap and change from snap to snap. Like I said I’m no wizard but 7 false starts at home can be critical on a game like we got coming up.


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Re: How the Hell?

Post by RyeCat » Sun Dec 14, 2025 10:56 am

BFcatfan wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:10 am
91catAlum wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:50 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:23 pm
RockyBearCat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:13 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:12 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:43 pm
BFcatfan wrote:
Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Just curious as how the hell do we have 7 false starts at home yesterday! Blows my mind…I think the last few home games we have had at least two every game. Uncalled for and needs addressed.
Did you watch the game or read the game day thread.
Watched it on TV… am I missing something here…
SF Austin was mimicking snap count all night.
I’m no wizard here but isn’t there a different way to make that not happen and why all the sudden is this an issue. Because if it’s that easy why don’t all teams do it. Lack of focus by our O line maybe. Call me stupid but having an hard time understanding how that happens.
I imagine it's pretty hard to avoid if you're an O lineman, and you're trying to listen for the QB to yell "set, hut. Hut" and one of the D linemen yells HUT. It's probably easy to mistake that for a real signal, and false start.
I would think you could have few key words that could be used like the infamous “Omaha” or “Pandas” then it’s on the number of huts. As a line man you don’t clue in until you hear the code word, and drop several of them every snap and change from snap to snap. Like I said I’m no wizard but 7 false starts at home can be critical on a game like we got coming up.
The offense needs to come up with some kind of adjustment - leg stomp, silent count, key word or something. We know the refs aren’t going to call it every time.



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Re: How the Hell?

Post by aucat » Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:02 am

This definitely needs attention, no matter what the cause. You can't get a five yard penalty when you are on the one yard line. Also, we had a packed stadium screaming yet I don't recall SFA ever having any trouble. No false starts. I guess we need to scream louder.

I also recall some stupid penalties, like once our DB grabbing a face mask, another one was holding well away from where the runner was.

These mistakes can cost you a ball game in a close game. We gotta bring our A game Saturday and that goes for the fans as well. Grab up every ticket and then yell your head off.



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Re: How the Hell?

Post by BOBCATBORN » Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:03 am

aucat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:02 am
This definitely needs attention, no matter what the cause. You can't get a five yard penalty when you are on the one yard line. Also, we had a packed stadium screaming yet I don't recall SFA ever having any trouble. No false starts. I guess we need to scream louder.

I also recall some stupid penalties, like once our DB grabbing a face mask, another one was holding well away from where the runner was.

These mistakes can cost you a ball game in a close game. We gotta bring our A game Saturday and that goes for the fans as well. Grab up every ticket and then yell your head off.
There were multiple false starts. Just somehow none of them called.



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Re: How the Hell?

Post by PapaG » Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:06 am

I thought it was bush league and a reflection of their program, but everyone else here wanted to give SFA kudos for being classy and such so I dropped it.

If it’s being coached, that’s BS to me. If it isn’t, after the first penalty yesterday their coach should tell the defense to stop that goofy nonsense ASAP because it’s against the rules and it makes your team look like cheaters.

Either way I don’t respect their head coach for condoning it, which it’s clear he does and makes his team look weak IMO.


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Re: How the Hell?

Post by SparkCat » Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:19 am

PapaG wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 11:06 am
I thought it was bush league and a reflection of their program, but everyone else here wanted to give SFA kudos for being classy and such so I dropped it.

If it’s being coached, that’s BS to me. If it isn’t, after the first penalty yesterday their coach should tell the defense to stop that goofy nonsense ASAP because it’s against the rules and it makes your team look like cheaters.

Either way I don’t respect their head coach for condoning it, which it’s clear he does and makes his team look weak IMO.
I feel like the last few quarterfinal games we have hosted the opponents have either been really tacky, and or the fans think they are the best team on the planet.



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