Setting the Record Straight

[MrGoodKat]

I've already noticed the spinning of various narratives around the game yesterday.

1) "The Bobcats only won by three points"-- while technically true, they ended the game with a 14 play, 72 yard drive that they kneeled out at the UM 17 yard line. This was a two score victory for all intents and purposes.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

3) "The refs really favored MSU"-- both teams had touchdowns called back on penalties that, while technically legit, were pretty inconsequential. The difference is that the Cats regrouped and scored a TD, while the Griz didn't. Both teams had ineligible receiver penalties and both had holds called against them that almost never get called in the BSC. They didn't review Davis' touchdown (which was legit) and they DID review Dowler's catch (which was also legit). They let a lot go in terms of aggression (which was good); it was actually only the Cats who had a personal foul called against them.

4) "The luck went MSU's way"-- MSU was fortunate to recover Julius Davis' fumble, but UM was likewise fortunate to recover Wortham's fumble. Gilman also fumbled and it went out of bounds. So the fumble luck actually went more in favor of the Griz. The interception also wasn't just dumb luck. KAY threw a ball high and too far ahead of a receiver with a small catch radius and he tipped it up. If he hadn't, it likely goes right to Dowler anyways.

5) "Ah Yat had a great game"-- Ah Yat accounted for less than 200 yards of offense, 2 TD, and 1 INT despite an 82% completion on 32 attempts. He's a good QB, but the MSU defense really limited him. They hit him whenever he tried to make plays down the field and thereby forced him to become a checkdown merchant. Coming into this game as a passer, he was averaging 270 YPG and over 2 TD's on 9.0 YPA. The Cats held him to 186 yards and 1 passing TD on 5.8 YPA.

Here's the reality: The Griz are good; the Cats are better.

[ilovethecats]

I’ve been a part of this rivalry for so long I don’t even take what they say seriously anymore. When the griz win it’s because they are so great and always better than the other team. If they barely beat a team like EWU or UND it’s because those teams are suddenly very good!

If the griz lose a game it’s never because the other team was better. It’s always they got all the calls. The ball bounced their way. The game was fluky. Griz are always better even when they lose. Not even worth the stress of being annoyed anymore. Everything written about them could have been predicted before the game was played.

My current favorite talking points today are that they got a difficult draw with SDSU. Especially if they get Mason back. I guess suddenly SDSU is a tough team, especially with their starting qb. Weird how that works.

Also loving those so confident they’ll beat the cats in Bozeman if given the chance. For all the reasons mentioned above. They’re better than the Cats and were just unlucky yesterday and the refs won the game.

Who cares that they haven’t won in Bozeman in about a decade. Or that the Cats almost never lose at home and when we have it’s to teams much better than this years griz. Or that we have absolutely blasted them here the last few meetings. Or that we just beat them in their Mecca not even playing amazing football. They are going to play better and we are gonna play worse. They will pass better and we won’t defend as well. The refs will have no impact and the ball will just bounce their way! Why?! Well because……

[justafan]

I hope they win out so we can play them proper....will be a great time for sure..hopefully exactly like the last time the gris were east of the divide....personally they should have only been the 4th seed and I would have loved to play them in the nc....but I doubt they would have fared well in Fargo...

[bobcatfan15]

I had a Gris fan tell me they were the better team yesterday. Had me scratching my head . Did we watch the same game!?!?!!

[OldGriz]

I've already noticed the spinning of various narratives around the game yesterday.

1) "The Bobcats only won by three points"-- while technically true, they ended the game with a 14 play, 72 yard drive that they kneeled out at the UM 17 yard line. This was a two score victory for all intents and purposes.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

3) "The refs really favored MSU"-- both teams had touchdowns called back on penalties that, while technically legit, were pretty inconsequential. The difference is that the Cats regrouped and scored a TD, while the Griz didn't. Both teams had ineligible receiver penalties and both had holds called against them that almost never get called in the BSC. They didn't review Davis' touchdown (which was legit) and they DID review Dowler's catch (which was also legit). They let a lot go in terms of aggression (which was good); it was actually only the Cats who had a personal foul called against them.

4) "The luck went MSU's way"-- MSU was fortunate to recover Julius Davis' fumble, but UM was likewise fortunate to recover Wortham's fumble. Gilman also fumbled and it went out of bounds. So the fumble luck actually went more in favor of the Griz. The interception also wasn't just dumb luck. KAY threw a ball high and too far ahead of a receiver with a small catch radius and he tipped it up. If he hadn't, it likely goes right to Dowler anyways.

5) "Ah Yat had a great game"-- Ah Yat accounted for less than 200 yards of offense, 2 TD, and 1 INT despite an 82% completion on 32 attempts. He's a good QB, but the MSU defense really limited him. They hit him whenever he tried to make plays down the field and thereby forced him to become a checkdown merchant. Coming into this game as a passer, he was averaging 270 YPG and over 2 TD's on 9.0 YPA. The Cats held him to 186 yards and 1 passing TD on 5.8 YPA.

Here's the reality: The Griz are good; the Cats are better.

No disagreement here except maybe on #5. I don’t believe Ah Yat had a great game, but I wonder if you’re saying he was inferior to Lamson. I thought both quarterbacks had excellent games, which, given the environment, is a huge credit to Lamson. I view them as equal talents.

[MrGoodKat]

I've already noticed the spinning of various narratives around the game yesterday.

1) "The Bobcats only won by three points"-- while technically true, they ended the game with a 14 play, 72 yard drive that they kneeled out at the UM 17 yard line. This was a two score victory for all intents and purposes.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

3) "The refs really favored MSU"-- both teams had touchdowns called back on penalties that, while technically legit, were pretty inconsequential. The difference is that the Cats regrouped and scored a TD, while the Griz didn't. Both teams had ineligible receiver penalties and both had holds called against them that almost never get called in the BSC. They didn't review Davis' touchdown (which was legit) and they DID review Dowler's catch (which was also legit). They let a lot go in terms of aggression (which was good); it was actually only the Cats who had a personal foul called against them.

4) "The luck went MSU's way"-- MSU was fortunate to recover Julius Davis' fumble, but UM was likewise fortunate to recover Wortham's fumble. Gilman also fumbled and it went out of bounds. So the fumble luck actually went more in favor of the Griz. The interception also wasn't just dumb luck. KAY threw a ball high and too far ahead of a receiver with a small catch radius and he tipped it up. If he hadn't, it likely goes right to Dowler anyways.

5) "Ah Yat had a great game"-- Ah Yat accounted for less than 200 yards of offense, 2 TD, and 1 INT despite an 82% completion on 32 attempts. He's a good QB, but the MSU defense really limited him. They hit him whenever he tried to make plays down the field and thereby forced him to become a checkdown merchant. Coming into this game as a passer, he was averaging 270 YPG and over 2 TD's on 9.0 YPA. The Cats held him to 186 yards and 1 passing TD on 5.8 YPA.

Here's the reality: The Griz are good; the Cats are better.

No disagreement here except maybe on #5. I don’t believe Ah Yat had a great game, but I wonder if you’re saying he was inferior to Lamson. I thought both quarterbacks had excellent games, which, given the environment, is a huge credit to Lamson. I view them as equal talents.

We agree.

As overall players-- talent, skill, etc-- I think they're comparable for sure. The overall MSU offense put Lamson in much better positions yesterday AND he balled out.

I think Ah Yat did what he could under the circumstances and I admire his toughness. But production-wise, he didn't have a great game.

[84CatGrad]

"The luck went MSU's way".

It's high time it does. The frizzzzzz got the lion's share of luck from 1986-2015.

[grizzh8r]

"The luck went MSU's way".

It's high time it does. The frizzzzzz got the lion's share of luck from 1986-2015.

Preach!

[nevadacat]

"The luck went MSU's way".

It's high time it does. The frizzzzzz got the lion's share of luck from 1986 - November 21, 2025.

FIFY

[Bobcat Sig]

Well said, GoodKat.

What I find laughable from the gris faithful is that the refs were favoring the Cats. lol! I'm sorry, what?! In wa-gris? LOL no

There were at least two blatant, missed targeting calls in the first half alone. And while I appreciate that the refs let the fellas play it out on the field, to say that the zebras favored the Cats is downright laughable and borderline delusional!

[golden77]

I believe if we play the Grizz in bozeman we win by 14 points for the following reasons. We won in missoula by 3 points but we were inside of the 17 yard line with 1:30 to go. We had driven the ball 70 yard in a long sustained drive. It's a high probability we could have scored another touchdown, and at the very least kicked another field goal. Next, home field in Bozeman has to at least be worth 7 points, maybe more. The crowd noise only effected our team twice for procedure penalties, I thought Lamson and the team didn't get rattled at all the whole game. I personally don't think Ay Yat and his teammates can keep the same amount of composure that Lamson and his teammates did.

[kwcat]

I've already noticed the spinning of various narratives around the game yesterday.

1) "The Bobcats only won by three points"-- while technically true, they ended the game with a 14 play, 72 yard drive that they kneeled out at the UM 17 yard line. This was a two score victory for all intents and purposes.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

3) "The refs really favored MSU"-- both teams had touchdowns called back on penalties that, while technically legit, were pretty inconsequential. The difference is that the Cats regrouped and scored a TD, while the Griz didn't. Both teams had ineligible receiver penalties and both had holds called against them that almost never get called in the BSC. They didn't review Davis' touchdown (which was legit) and they DID review Dowler's catch (which was also legit). They let a lot go in terms of aggression (which was good); it was actually only the Cats who had a personal foul called against them.

4) "The luck went MSU's way"-- MSU was fortunate to recover Julius Davis' fumble, but UM was likewise fortunate to recover Wortham's fumble. Gilman also fumbled and it went out of bounds. So the fumble luck actually went more in favor of the Griz. The interception also wasn't just dumb luck. KAY threw a ball high and too far ahead of a receiver with a small catch radius and he tipped it up. If he hadn't, it likely goes right to Dowler anyways.

5) "Ah Yat had a great game"-- Ah Yat accounted for less than 200 yards of offense, 2 TD, and 1 INT despite an 82% completion on 32 attempts. He's a good QB, but the MSU defense really limited him. They hit him whenever he tried to make plays down the field and thereby forced him to become a checkdown merchant. Coming into this game as a passer, he was averaging 270 YPG and over 2 TD's on 9.0 YPA. The Cats held him to 186 yards and 1 passing TD on 5.8 YPA.

Here's the reality: The Griz are good; the Cats are better.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

This gave them an extra possession as well and gave us one less!

[MrGoodKat]

I've already noticed the spinning of various narratives around the game yesterday.

1) "The Bobcats only won by three points"-- while technically true, they ended the game with a 14 play, 72 yard drive that they kneeled out at the UM 17 yard line. This was a two score victory for all intents and purposes.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

3) "The refs really favored MSU"-- both teams had touchdowns called back on penalties that, while technically legit, were pretty inconsequential. The difference is that the Cats regrouped and scored a TD, while the Griz didn't. Both teams had ineligible receiver penalties and both had holds called against them that almost never get called in the BSC. They didn't review Davis' touchdown (which was legit) and they DID review Dowler's catch (which was also legit). They let a lot go in terms of aggression (which was good); it was actually only the Cats who had a personal foul called against them.

4) "The luck went MSU's way"-- MSU was fortunate to recover Julius Davis' fumble, but UM was likewise fortunate to recover Wortham's fumble. Gilman also fumbled and it went out of bounds. So the fumble luck actually went more in favor of the Griz. The interception also wasn't just dumb luck. KAY threw a ball high and too far ahead of a receiver with a small catch radius and he tipped it up. If he hadn't, it likely goes right to Dowler anyways.

5) "Ah Yat had a great game"-- Ah Yat accounted for less than 200 yards of offense, 2 TD, and 1 INT despite an 82% completion on 32 attempts. He's a good QB, but the MSU defense really limited him. They hit him whenever he tried to make plays down the field and thereby forced him to become a checkdown merchant. Coming into this game as a passer, he was averaging 270 YPG and over 2 TD's on 9.0 YPA. The Cats held him to 186 yards and 1 passing TD on 5.8 YPA.

Here's the reality: The Griz are good; the Cats are better.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

This gave them an extra possession as well and gave us one less!

None of the excuses hold water. It's wonderful to hear/read so many of their fans clinging to them. Loser mentality.

[kwcat]

I've already noticed the spinning of various narratives around the game yesterday.

1) "The Bobcats only won by three points"-- while technically true, they ended the game with a 14 play, 72 yard drive that they kneeled out at the UM 17 yard line. This was a two score victory for all intents and purposes.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

3) "The refs really favored MSU"-- both teams had touchdowns called back on penalties that, while technically legit, were pretty inconsequential. The difference is that the Cats regrouped and scored a TD, while the Griz didn't. Both teams had ineligible receiver penalties and both had holds called against them that almost never get called in the BSC. They didn't review Davis' touchdown (which was legit) and they DID review Dowler's catch (which was also legit). They let a lot go in terms of aggression (which was good); it was actually only the Cats who had a personal foul called against them.

4) "The luck went MSU's way"-- MSU was fortunate to recover Julius Davis' fumble, but UM was likewise fortunate to recover Wortham's fumble. Gilman also fumbled and it went out of bounds. So the fumble luck actually went more in favor of the Griz. The interception also wasn't just dumb luck. KAY threw a ball high and too far ahead of a receiver with a small catch radius and he tipped it up. If he hadn't, it likely goes right to Dowler anyways.

5) "Ah Yat had a great game"-- Ah Yat accounted for less than 200 yards of offense, 2 TD, and 1 INT despite an 82% completion on 32 attempts. He's a good QB, but the MSU defense really limited him. They hit him whenever he tried to make plays down the field and thereby forced him to become a checkdown merchant. Coming into this game as a passer, he was averaging 270 YPG and over 2 TD's on 9.0 YPA. The Cats held him to 186 yards and 1 passing TD on 5.8 YPA.

Here's the reality: The Griz are good; the Cats are better.

No disagreement here except maybe on #5. I don’t believe Ah Yat had a great game, but I wonder if you’re saying he was inferior to Lamson. I thought both quarterbacks had excellent games, which, given the environment, is a huge credit to Lamson. I view them as equal talents.

I thought KA played really well. He kept your team alive at several different points when he was in big trouble. He’s gonna be a problem moving forward.

Lamson overall played better Saturday

[nanacat]

Not sure where to put this, but I was listening to Akem and Curran's post game responses and Sammy commented that people were saying before the game that Cats would win by 14 but were 3.5 point favorites and won by 3. I think had the game been in Bozeman, that betting line would have been higher, and I think the Cats would have won by 10-14.

[Cledus]

I've already noticed the spinning of various narratives around the game yesterday.

1) "The Bobcats only won by three points"-- while technically true, they ended the game with a 14 play, 72 yard drive that they kneeled out at the UM 17 yard line. This was a two score victory for all intents and purposes.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

3) "The refs really favored MSU"-- both teams had touchdowns called back on penalties that, while technically legit, were pretty inconsequential. The difference is that the Cats regrouped and scored a TD, while the Griz didn't. Both teams had ineligible receiver penalties and both had holds called against them that almost never get called in the BSC. They didn't review Davis' touchdown (which was legit) and they DID review Dowler's catch (which was also legit). They let a lot go in terms of aggression (which was good); it was actually only the Cats who had a personal foul called against them.

4) "The luck went MSU's way"-- MSU was fortunate to recover Julius Davis' fumble, but UM was likewise fortunate to recover Wortham's fumble. Gilman also fumbled and it went out of bounds. So the fumble luck actually went more in favor of the Griz. The interception also wasn't just dumb luck. KAY threw a ball high and too far ahead of a receiver with a small catch radius and he tipped it up. If he hadn't, it likely goes right to Dowler anyways.

5) "Ah Yat had a great game"-- Ah Yat accounted for less than 200 yards of offense, 2 TD, and 1 INT despite an 82% completion on 32 attempts. He's a good QB, but the MSU defense really limited him. They hit him whenever he tried to make plays down the field and thereby forced him to become a checkdown merchant. Coming into this game as a passer, he was averaging 270 YPG and over 2 TD's on 9.0 YPA. The Cats held him to 186 yards and 1 passing TD on 5.8 YPA.

Here's the reality: The Griz are good; the Cats are better.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

This gave them an extra possession as well and gave us one less!

[kwcat]

I've already noticed the spinning of various narratives around the game yesterday.

1) "The Bobcats only won by three points"-- while technically true, they ended the game with a 14 play, 72 yard drive that they kneeled out at the UM 17 yard line. This was a two score victory for all intents and purposes.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

3) "The refs really favored MSU"-- both teams had touchdowns called back on penalties that, while technically legit, were pretty inconsequential. The difference is that the Cats regrouped and scored a TD, while the Griz didn't. Both teams had ineligible receiver penalties and both had holds called against them that almost never get called in the BSC. They didn't review Davis' touchdown (which was legit) and they DID review Dowler's catch (which was also legit). They let a lot go in terms of aggression (which was good); it was actually only the Cats who had a personal foul called against them.

4) "The luck went MSU's way"-- MSU was fortunate to recover Julius Davis' fumble, but UM was likewise fortunate to recover Wortham's fumble. Gilman also fumbled and it went out of bounds. So the fumble luck actually went more in favor of the Griz. The interception also wasn't just dumb luck. KAY threw a ball high and too far ahead of a receiver with a small catch radius and he tipped it up. If he hadn't, it likely goes right to Dowler anyways.

5) "Ah Yat had a great game"-- Ah Yat accounted for less than 200 yards of offense, 2 TD, and 1 INT despite an 82% completion on 32 attempts. He's a good QB, but the MSU defense really limited him. They hit him whenever he tried to make plays down the field and thereby forced him to become a checkdown merchant. Coming into this game as a passer, he was averaging 270 YPG and over 2 TD's on 9.0 YPA. The Cats held him to 186 yards and 1 passing TD on 5.8 YPA.

Here's the reality: The Griz are good; the Cats are better.

2) "The Bobcats' offense only scored 24 while the Griz scored 28"-- again, technically true, but only because of sportsmanship. If the Cats had chosen to finish the last drive, it would have been 31 points scored by MSU's offense. Also, when you have a pick 6, it takes away a possession from the offense and thus, a chance to score.

This gave them an extra possession as well and gave us one less!

I should have continued to say that if we would’ve had one more possession, we would’ve wore down their defense even more and the game would’ve been an avalanche! So the fact that Caden had the interception for the pick six actually helped them keep the game closer! Lol

[Prodigal Cat]

I’m kinda shocked but I shouldn’t be on how many gris fans are clamoring for a rematch in Bozeman thinking they will win. I get it, if I was on the other side I would want revenge but it’s crazy how many are convinced they will win. If they had beaten us in Bozeman and the rematch was in Missoula I would be hopeful but dubious much less arrogant boasting that the Cats would win. GFP guys are right there with them.

We punted twice.

[ilovethecats]

I’m kinda shocked but I shouldn’t be on how many gris fans are clamoring for a rematch in Bozeman thinking they will win. I get it, if I was on the other side I would want revenge but it’s crazy how many are convinced they will win. If they had beaten us in Bozeman and the rematch was in Missoula I would be hopeful but dubious much less arrogant boasting that the Cats would win. GFP guys are right there with them.

We punted twice.

I said the same over there. If the shoe were on the other foot I’d probably be clamoring for the same simply for egotistical reasons. Would like another crack.

But from my Cat fandom point of view, I also am surprised so many are wanting another shot at us, especially at home. I didn’t feel like the cats looked amazing Saturday but still won on the road. And maybe it was just me, but even when it was tight late, I just never felt like we’d lose.

I’d love to have a shot of beating them twice in the same year for the first time in history. Though I’m not convinced it’ll even be them come December 20th. I think their very first game is gonna be a doozy.

All that said, we get them in Bozeman I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be the same outcome as like the last 5 with the cats winning by 20+.

[catatac]

I’m kinda shocked but I shouldn’t be on how many gris fans are clamoring for a rematch in Bozeman thinking they will win. I get it, if I was on the other side I would want revenge but it’s crazy how many are convinced they will win. If they had beaten us in Bozeman and the rematch was in Missoula I would be hopeful but dubious much less arrogant boasting that the Cats would win. GFP guys are right there with them.

We punted twice.

I said the same over there. If the shoe were on the other foot I’d probably be clamoring for the same simply for egotistical reasons. Would like another crack.

But from my Cat fandom point of view, I also am surprised so many are wanting another shot at us, especially at home. I didn’t feel like the cats looked amazing Saturday but still won on the road. And maybe it was just me, but even when it was tight late, I just never felt like we’d lose.

I’d love to have a shot of beating them twice in the same year for the first time in history. Though I’m not convinced it’ll even be them come December 20th. I think their very first game is gonna be a doozy.

All that said, we get them in Bozeman I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be the same outcome as like the last 5 with the cats winning by 20+.

This, all day. in 2023 when we were a blocked XP away from heading back to Zoo for a rematch, I had zero confidence we'd be able to beat them the 2nd time. Sure it could have happened but with how ugly that first game was, I don't know.

This year though, I totally agree - shocked at the Griz fans really wanting the rematch. We pushed them around on the lines. Ah Yat will be getting pounded all game. I suppose if we had see a bunch of injuries to key players that could change things, but if we're playing tomorrow in Bozeman, it's another beat down.