FCS Top 25 poll
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FCS Top 25 poll
Cats got one first place vote. Gris got none.
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/ ... fcs-top-25
Also interesting-gris got one first place vote in the coaches poll.
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/ ... fcs-top-25
Also interesting-gris got one first place vote in the coaches poll.
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Re: FCS Top 25 poll
Yeaj I don't understand the griz 1st place vote. They almost lost to a not good team.
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It could be Barney blowing smoke up Bobby's butt, or kissing ass.
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Re: FCS Top 25 poll
Hey now! I have it on supremely suspect authority that the coaches, writers, and referees take these polls extremely seriously and each of those individuals have forgotten more about football then we mere commoners could ever possibly comprehend.Joe Bobcat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:14 pmIt could be Barney blowing smoke up Bobby's butt, or kissing ass.
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In the Stats Perform, 27 votes separated MSU from UM. Makes me think the Cats got a lot of second place votes. I suppose one could dissect the numbers and get a better guess as to how many. Might have to start by assuming none of the top three got a fourth-place vote or worse. Probably a valid assumption with Lehigh in fourth place.
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Maybe some of the voters are taking cues from the committee and giving us more 2nds.
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MSU did also get one first place vote.RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:59 pmIn the Stats Perform, 27 votes separated MSU from UM. Makes me think the Cats got a lot of second place votes. I suppose one could dissect the numbers and get a better guess as to how many. Might have to start by assuming none of the top three got a fourth-place vote or worse. Probably a valid assumption with Lehigh in fourth place.
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Yeah there's a whole bunch of Bison and even SDSU fans where that vote is making them spitting mad on twitter.Cledus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 3:41 pmMSU did also get one first place vote.RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:59 pmIn the Stats Perform, 27 votes separated MSU from UM. Makes me think the Cats got a lot of second place votes. I suppose one could dissect the numbers and get a better guess as to how many. Might have to start by assuming none of the top three got a fourth-place vote or worse. Probably a valid assumption with Lehigh in fourth place.
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There are 56(25 + 24 + 23) = 4,032 points available for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place votes. If you add up NDSU, UM, and MSU's point totals they add to 4,026 which means that (most likely) 6 voters have one of those teams in 4th instead of in 3rd.RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:59 pmIn the Stats Perform, 27 votes separated MSU from UM. Makes me think the Cats got a lot of second place votes. I suppose one could dissect the numbers and get a better guess as to how many. Might have to start by assuming none of the top three got a fourth-place vote or worse. Probably a valid assumption with Lehigh in fourth place.
The most mathematically feasible way I can find for MSU to get to its 1,300 total points is:
1 first place vote (25 pts)
16 second place votes (384 pts)
33 third place votes (759 pts)
6 fourth place votes (132 pts)
25 + 384 + 759 + 132 = 1,300
Assuming the voter that gave MSU the first place vote has NDSU at #2, then the Griz would have 39 second place votes and 17 third place votes. 39*24 + 17*23 = 1,327 points which matches their total. So there we have it!
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too much time on your handsMSU01 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:54 pmThere are 56(25 + 24 + 23) = 4,032 points available for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place votes. If you add up NDSU, UM, and MSU's point totals they add to 4,026 which means that (most likely) 6 voters have one of those teams in 4th instead of in 3rd.RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:59 pmIn the Stats Perform, 27 votes separated MSU from UM. Makes me think the Cats got a lot of second place votes. I suppose one could dissect the numbers and get a better guess as to how many. Might have to start by assuming none of the top three got a fourth-place vote or worse. Probably a valid assumption with Lehigh in fourth place.
The most mathematically feasible way I can find for MSU to get to its 1,300 total points is:
1 first place vote (25 pts)
16 second place votes (384 pts)
33 third place votes (759 pts)
6 fourth place votes (132 pts)
25 + 384 + 759 + 132 = 1,300
Assuming the voter that gave MSU the first place vote has NDSU at #2, then the Griz would have 39 second place votes and 17 third place votes. 39*24 + 17*23 = 1,327 points which matches their total. So there we have it!
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You're not wrong.cats2506 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:24 pmtoo much time on your handsMSU01 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:54 pmThere are 56(25 + 24 + 23) = 4,032 points available for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place votes. If you add up NDSU, UM, and MSU's point totals they add to 4,026 which means that (most likely) 6 voters have one of those teams in 4th instead of in 3rd.RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:59 pmIn the Stats Perform, 27 votes separated MSU from UM. Makes me think the Cats got a lot of second place votes. I suppose one could dissect the numbers and get a better guess as to how many. Might have to start by assuming none of the top three got a fourth-place vote or worse. Probably a valid assumption with Lehigh in fourth place.
The most mathematically feasible way I can find for MSU to get to its 1,300 total points is:
1 first place vote (25 pts)
16 second place votes (384 pts)
33 third place votes (759 pts)
6 fourth place votes (132 pts)
25 + 384 + 759 + 132 = 1,300
Assuming the voter that gave MSU the first place vote has NDSU at #2, then the Griz would have 39 second place votes and 17 third place votes. 39*24 + 17*23 = 1,327 points which matches their total. So there we have it!![]()
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Interesting how many undefeated teams there are this year. I think at this time last season MSU was the only one.
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Honestly there’s a scenario where nearly half the top 8 seed will be home dogs. If teams like Davis, UND, YSU are traveling to Tenn Tech, Lehigh, or Harvard they will for sure. This setting up to be the weirdest and hardest bracket to set. Sorry Leon.
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Thanks for doing the math!MSU01 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:54 pmThere are 56(25 + 24 + 23) = 4,032 points available for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place votes. If you add up NDSU, UM, and MSU's point totals they add to 4,026 which means that (most likely) 6 voters have one of those teams in 4th instead of in 3rd.RobertSebastianCat-81 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:59 pmIn the Stats Perform, 27 votes separated MSU from UM. Makes me think the Cats got a lot of second place votes. I suppose one could dissect the numbers and get a better guess as to how many. Might have to start by assuming none of the top three got a fourth-place vote or worse. Probably a valid assumption with Lehigh in fourth place.
The most mathematically feasible way I can find for MSU to get to its 1,300 total points is:
1 first place vote (25 pts)
16 second place votes (384 pts)
33 third place votes (759 pts)
6 fourth place votes (132 pts)
25 + 384 + 759 + 132 = 1,300
Assuming the voter that gave MSU the first place vote has NDSU at #2, then the Griz would have 39 second place votes and 17 third place votes. 39*24 + 17*23 = 1,327 points which matches their total. So there we have it!
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Somebody watched that EWU game last week & decided to bump the Pandas to #1?
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This is so strange. I finally took a minute to study the rankings. A team like the Cats could first face a MV school like one of the Illinois teams, followed by another pain-in-the-ass MV school like ND in the quarters, but then play Lehigh? Or Tenn Tech? I don't have any real issues with the ranking, it's just super strange this year.