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BSC Comparison
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:44 am
by Lord Vigo
Points/Game:
1T. Montana: 41.3
1T. Montana State: 41.3
2. Eastern Washington: 33.0
3. Idaho State: 32.4
4. U.C. Davis: 30.9
5. Northern Arizona: 29.1
6. Weber State: 28.4
7. Sac State: 27.7
8. Portland State: 26.3
9. Cal Poly: 22.5
10. Idaho: 22.1
11. Northern Colorado: 14.0
Points/Game Allowed:
1. Montana State: 16.6
2. U.C. Davis: 21.4
3. Northern Arizona: 21.9
4. Idaho: 22.4
5. Weber State: 23.4
6. Sac State: 27.3
7. Montana: 30.3
8. Cal Poly: 31.0
9. Northern Colorado: 34.0
10. Idaho State: 35.0
11. Eastern Washington: 36.5
12. Portland State: 46.5
Point Differential/Game:
1. Montana State: +24.7
2. Montana: +11
3. U.C. Davis: +9.5
4. Northern Arizona: +7.2
5. Weber State: +5.0
6. Sac State: +0.4
7. Idaho: -0.3
8. Idaho State: -2.6
9. Eastern Washington: -3.5
10. Cal Poly: -8.5
11. Northern Colorado: -20.0
12. Portland State: -20.2
Rush Yds/Carry:
1. Montana State: 6.61
2. Montana: 6.28
3. Weber State: 5.10
4. Idaho State: 5.08
5. Eastern Washington: 5.00
6. Northern Arizona: 4.81
7. Portland State: 4.64
8. Idaho: 4.59
9. Sac State: 4.31
10. Cal Poly: 4.03
11. Northern Colorado: 3.81
12. U.C. Davis: 3.49
Rush Yds/Carry Allowed:
1. Sac State: 2.88
2. Montana State: 3.49
3. Idaho: 3.61
4. U.C. Davis: 3.63
5. Cal Poly: 3.92
6. Montana: 4.10
7. Northern Arizona: 4.31
8. Weber State: 4.50
9. Northern Colorado: 5.47
10. Idaho State: 5.50
11. Eastern Washington: 5.76
12. Portland State: 6.48
Pass Yds/Attempt:
1. Montana State: 8.97
2. U.C. Davis: 7.90
3. Northern Arizona: 7.86
4. Portland State: 7.60
5. Cal Poly: 7.60
6. Eastern Washington: 7.49
7. Weber State: 7.17
8. Montana: 6.78
9. Idaho State: 6.71
10. Idaho: 6.51
11. Sac State: 6.24
12. Northern Colorado: 5.18
Pass Yds/Attempt Allowed
1. Montana State: 5.90
2. Northern Arizona: 6.18
3. Weber State: 6.29
4. Idaho: 6.90
5. U.C. Davis: 7.02
6. Montana: 7.27
7. Idaho State: 7.57
8. Eastern Washington: 7.77
9. Sac State: 8.07
10. Northern Colorado: 8.31
11. Portland State 9.00
12. Cal Poly: 9.07
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:46 am
by Lord Vigo
I think the stats bear out what I've seen in games:
MSU is the top team in the conference and in a tier by themselves. There's a big tier break and then you're looking at UM, NAU, and UCD in a group. Everyone after that stinks.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:54 am
by Catsrgrood
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:46 am
I think the stats bear out what I've seen in games:
MSU is the top team in the conference and in a tier by themselves. There's a big tier break and then you're looking at UM, NAU, and UCD in a group. Everyone after that stinks.
Despite what happened Sat night, Idaho is still in that second tier of the league.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:58 am
by Lord Vigo
Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:54 am
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:46 am
I think the stats bear out what I've seen in games:
MSU is the top team in the conference and in a tier by themselves. There's a big tier break and then you're looking at UM, NAU, and UCD in a group. Everyone after that stinks.
Despite what happened Sat night, Idaho is still in that second tier of the league.
Maybe. I mean, when they have their QB certainly.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:14 pm
by seataccat
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:46 am
I think the stats bear out what I've seen in games:
MSU is the top team in the conference and in a tier by themselves. There's a big tier break and then you're looking at UM, NAU, and UCD in a group. Everyone after that stinks.
NAU isn't going anywhere unless they get their #1 or #2 QB back. I don't even think they are in the top half of the league with their current starter.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:00 pm
by BelligerentBobcat
Idaho’s rushing yards allowed being that low after we ran for 360 on 6.7 YPC is hilarious.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:36 am
by Lord Vigo
How do we feel about this? Note-- I can't find anything about injury status for Ty Pennington (NAU) and I believe Jack Layne will be back in the next couple of weeks.
Tier One:
1. Montana State
Tier Two:
2. Idaho (w/ Layne)
3. Northern Arizona (w/ Pennington)
4. Montana
5. U.C. Davis
Tier Three:
6. Weber State
7. Eastern Washington
8. Idaho State
9. Sac State
10. Portland State
Tier Four:
11. Cal Poly
12. Northern Colorado
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:45 am
by technoCat
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:36 am
How do we feel about this? Note-- I can't find anything about injury status for Ty Pennington (NAU) and I believe Jack Layne will be back in the next couple of weeks.
Tier One:
1. Montana State
Tier Two:
2. Idaho (w/ Layne)
3. Northern Arizona (w/ Pennington)
4. Montana
5. U.C. Davis
Tier Three:
6. Weber State
7. Eastern Washington
8. Idaho State
9. Sac State
10. Portland State
Tier Four:
11. Cal Poly
12. Northern Colorado
Are you saying that UC Davis is the #5 team or are all teams in the second tier functionally the same?
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:14 pm
by Lord Vigo
technoCat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:45 am
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:36 am
How do we feel about this? Note-- I can't find anything about injury status for Ty Pennington (NAU) and I believe Jack Layne will be back in the next couple of weeks.
Tier One:
1. Montana State
Tier Two:
2. Idaho (w/ Layne)
3. Northern Arizona (w/ Pennington)
4. Montana
5. U.C. Davis
Tier Three:
6. Weber State
7. Eastern Washington
8. Idaho State
9. Sac State
10. Portland State
Tier Four:
11. Cal Poly
12. Northern Colorado
Are you saying that UC Davis is the #5 team or are all teams in the second tier functionally the same?
I think the teams in the 2nd Tier are all really close to each other, but yeah I would rank them last of that group. I don't think they're nearly as good as their record. If NAU and ID have their quarterbacks, I think they're better. Now if you're talking about the Vandals with Wagner or the Lumberjacks with London, then yeah they should be ranked higher.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:07 pm
by Lord Vigo
Here's another stat for the Cats that I think is important.
Scoring differential (FCS only) at the half is +147 points, or +24.5 PPG.
The reason that's telling is because they have played subs so aggressively in second halves. If they kept starters in, their differential per game could be something along the lines of +50.
That's a good indicator of how dominant they've been, which is important as they haven't had a strong schedule.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:17 pm
by coloradocat
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:07 pm
Here's another stat for the Cats that I think is important.
Scoring differential (FCS only) at the half is +147 points, or +24.5 PPG.
The reason that's telling is because they have played subs so aggressively in second halves. If they kept starters in, their differential per game could be something along the lines of +50.
That's a good indicator of how dominant they've been, which is important as they haven't had a strong schedule.
I'm pretty sure the first drive of the 4th quarter was the only action he's seen in the 4Q against FCS competition. Same goes for the rest of the offense. He probably hadn't even played half of the 3Q drives before this game.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:26 pm
by TomCat88
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:58 am
Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:54 am
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:46 am
I think the stats bear out what I've seen in games:
MSU is the top team in the conference and in a tier by themselves. There's a big tier break and then you're looking at UM, NAU, and UCD in a group. Everyone after that stinks.
Despite what happened Sat night, Idaho is still in that second tier of the league.
Maybe. I mean, when they have their QB certainly.
Idaho’s calling card has been its defense and if they don’t have that (as they didn’t vs MSU) in a given game, they will have a tough time beating anyone. They could’ve had Tom Brady in his prime and still probably would’ve lost.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:28 pm
by TomCat88
MSU has owned both sides of the LOS in every game this year. Idaho’s DL has been ballyhooed and they were mastered by MSU.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:20 pm
by Lord Vigo
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:28 pm
MSU has owned both sides of the LOS in every game this year. Idaho’s DL has been ballyhooed and they were mastered by MSU.
Despite the overall good season stats, Idaho has been vulnerable to the ground game at times this season. What’s made them exceptional has been their pass rush. Tough for that to matter when you are facing a team that’s running 75% of the time.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:25 pm
by iaafan
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:28 pm
MSU has owned both sides of the LOS in every game this year. Idaho’s DL has been ballyhooed and they were mastered by MSU.
Despite the overall good season stats, Idaho has been vulnerable to the ground game at times this season. What’s made them exceptional has been their pass rush. Tough for that to matter when you are facing a team that’s running 75% of the time.
They have? I’m really interested to hear about this. What game or what time in a game were they vulnerable?
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:32 pm
by Lord Vigo
iaafan wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:25 pm
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:28 pm
MSU has owned both sides of the LOS in every game this year. Idaho’s DL has been ballyhooed and they were mastered by MSU.
Despite the overall good season stats, Idaho has been vulnerable to the ground game at times this season. What’s made them exceptional has been their pass rush. Tough for that to matter when you are facing a team that’s running 75% of the time.
They have? I’m really interested to hear about this. What game or what time in a game were they vulnerable?
NAU and ACU both fielded some runners who were effective against them, but they didn’t receive a lot of carries.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:10 pm
by Montanabob
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:28 pm
MSU has owned both sides of the LOS in every game this year. Idaho’s DL has been ballyhooed and they were mastered by MSU.
Despite the overall good season stats, Idaho has been vulnerable to the ground game at times this season. What’s made them exceptional has been their pass rush. Tough for that to matter when you are facing a team that’s running 75% of the time.
idk, tommy seemed to be able to pass at will.
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 4:58 am
by TomCat88
Lord Vigo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:44 am
Points/Game:
1T. Montana: 41.3
1T. Montana State: 41.3
2. Eastern Washington: 33.0
3. Idaho State: 32.4
4. U.C. Davis: 30.9
5. Northern Arizona: 29.1
6. Weber State: 28.4
7. Sac State: 27.7
8. Portland State: 26.3
9. Cal Poly: 22.5
10. Idaho: 22.1
11. Northern Colorado: 14.0
Points/Game Allowed:
1. Montana State: 16.6
2. U.C. Davis: 21.4
3. Northern Arizona: 21.9
4. Idaho: 22.4
5. Weber State: 23.4
6. Sac State: 27.3
7. Montana: 30.3
8. Cal Poly: 31.0
9. Northern Colorado: 34.0
10. Idaho State: 35.0
11. Eastern Washington: 36.5
12. Portland State: 46.5
Point Differential/Game:
1. Montana State: +24.7
2. Montana: +11
3. U.C. Davis: +9.5
4. Northern Arizona: +7.2
5. Weber State: +5.0
6. Sac State: +0.4
7. Idaho: -0.3
8. Idaho State: -2.6
9. Eastern Washington: -3.5
10. Cal Poly: -8.5
11. Northern Colorado: -20.0
12. Portland State: -20.2
Rush Yds/Carry:
1. Montana State: 6.61
2. Montana: 6.28
3. Weber State: 5.10
4. Idaho State: 5.08
5. Eastern Washington: 5.00
6. Northern Arizona: 4.81
7. Portland State: 4.64
8. Idaho: 4.59
9. Sac State: 4.31
10. Cal Poly: 4.03
11. Northern Colorado: 3.81
12. U.C. Davis: 3.49
Rush Yds/Carry Allowed:
1. Sac State: 2.88
2. Montana State: 3.49
3. Idaho: 3.61
4. U.C. Davis: 3.63
5. Cal Poly: 3.92
6. Montana: 4.10
7. Northern Arizona: 4.31
8. Weber State: 4.50
9. Northern Colorado: 5.47
10. Idaho State: 5.50
11. Eastern Washington: 5.76
12. Portland State: 6.48
Pass Yds/Attempt:
1. Montana State: 8.97
2. U.C. Davis: 7.90
3. Northern Arizona: 7.86
4. Portland State: 7.60
5. Cal Poly: 7.60
6. Eastern Washington: 7.49
7. Weber State: 7.17
8. Montana: 6.78
9. Idaho State: 6.71
10. Idaho: 6.51
11. Sac State: 6.24
12. Northern Colorado: 5.18
Pass Yds/Attempt Allowed
1. Montana State: 5.90
2. Northern Arizona: 6.18
3. Weber State: 6.29
4. Idaho: 6.90
5. U.C. Davis: 7.02
6. Montana: 7.27
7. Idaho State: 7.57
8. Eastern Washington: 7.77
9. Sac State: 8.07
10. Northern Colorado: 8.31
11. Portland State 9.00
12. Cal Poly: 9.07
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 4:59 am
by TomCat88
Re: BSC Comparison
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 4:59 am
by TomCat88