The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Idaho State

[RickRund]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?

Now that you mentioned it, I was wondering the same.

[VimSince03]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?

Now that you mentioned it, I was wondering the same.

Call on the field was a fumble. Could have challenged it but the reviews we saw it was sketchy if there was enough to overturn. I agree with both of you I think he was down but what the call on the field plays a major role in Big Sky review chances.

[technoCat]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?

Now that you mentioned it, I was wondering the same.

Call on the field was a fumble. Could have challenged it but the reviews we saw it was sketchy if there was enough to overturn. I agree with both of you I think he was down but what the call on the field plays a major role in Big Sky review chances.

I never saw a replay that could overturn it. Maybe they had other angles but it probably wasn't worth taking the chance.

[tetoncat]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?

Now that you mentioned it, I was wondering the same.

Call on the field was a fumble. Could have challenged it but the reviews we saw it was sketchy if there was enough to overturn. I agree with both of you I think he was down but what the call on the field plays a major role in Big Sky review chances.

I never saw a replay that could overturn it. Maybe they had other angles but it probably wasn't worth taking the chance.

Needed a view from opposite side of field and broadcast never showed one.

[tetoncat]

Vigen was mad at half about refs. That series ISU called TO on 4th down I believe then Cats called TO. ISU tried to call another and I don't think you can.Refs stopped play then said couldn't take TO but play clock reset essentially giving more time. Should that have been a delay of game penalty. Maybe they choose to kick FG if that is called properly?

[coloradocat]

[VimSince03]

Vigen was mad at half about refs. That series ISU called TO on 4th down I believe then Cats called TO. ISU tried to call another and I don't think you can.Refs stopped play then said couldn't take TO but play clock reset essentially giving more time. Should that have been a delay of game penalty. Maybe they choose to kick FG if that is called properly?

I could be wrong but if you stop play trying to take a timeout you don't have, its a penalty and loss of down. Experts should fill me in on this though but I thought that's what I remembered from one game where this exact situation happened. Then I would definitely understand why the coaches were upset.

[wbtfg]

Vigen was mad at half about refs. That series ISU called TO on 4th down I believe then Cats called TO. ISU tried to call another and I don't think you can.Refs stopped play then said couldn't take TO but play clock reset essentially giving more time. Should that have been a delay of game penalty. Maybe they choose to kick FG if that is called properly?

I could be wrong but if you stop play trying to take a timeout you don't have, its a penalty and loss of down. Experts should fill me in on this though but I thought that's what I remembered from one game where this exact situation happened. Then I would definitely understand why the coaches were upset.

One team Can’t call two timeouts during the same dead ball. The bsc refs missed this one. That said, I’m not sure if there’s a yardage penalty for this or not.

[onceacat]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?

Now that you mentioned it, I was wondering the same.

Call on the field was a fumble. Could have challenged it but the reviews we saw it was sketchy if there was enough to overturn. I agree with both of you I think he was down but what the call on the field plays a major role in Big Sky review chances.

If you spent any time over the weekend watching FBS, its pretty clear that the replay system is totally & completely broken.

[MSU Toddler]

Otis Campbell right now.

[rfischer94]

[allcat]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?

Now that you mentioned it, I was wondering the same.

Call on the field was a fumble. Could have challenged it but the reviews we saw it was sketchy if there was enough to overturn. I agree with both of you I think he was down but what the call on the field plays a major role in Big Sky review chances.

If you spent any time over the weekend watching FBS, its pretty clear that the replay system is totally & completely broken.

I never wanted replay. I'm curious how you would fix it.

[onceacat]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?

Now that you mentioned it, I was wondering the same.

Call on the field was a fumble. Could have challenged it but the reviews we saw it was sketchy if there was enough to overturn. I agree with both of you I think he was down but what the call on the field plays a major role in Big Sky review chances.

If you spent any time over the weekend watching FBS, its pretty clear that the replay system is totally & completely broken.

I never wanted replay. I'm curious how you would fix it.

Honestly, I'm not sure. In the Miami-VT game, the replay overturned a Hail Mary TD without ANY evidence (at least that we could see on TV)...similar to the end of the SDSU-MSU game last season.

Other than teaching what "incontrovertible evidence" means, I'm not really sure. It seems to work fine in the NFL.

[The Butcher]

It seems to work fine in the NFL.

I'm not sure about that. During the Vikings vs. Packers game, the interception by the Packers, where the player clearly landed out of bounds, was ruled a clean catch. Even the commentators in the booth couldn't understand how the call was confirmed following the review.

[CelticCat]

Secondary is bad.

Humphrey and Jones are a dangerous 1-2 punch.

You literally have no clue what you're taking about. They aren't bad. They are the best but they are avg. Tracy is throwing some darts. Nearly every big catch was contested and we won our fair share.

When a team throws as much at this, they're going to win some. They've scored 17 points...... every single team in the country would take defense that's had given up 17pts with a couple of high quality throws and catches.. like you do realize they are d1 athletes as well? They are going to make some plays

Apparently BBT doesn’t know the prodigiousness of msuhunter’s gameday gloom. lol - I’m here for it haha

I literally complemented the RB play today. And all year frankly. This place has taken a turn for the worse, just like Bozeman in general over the last decade. But I digress. Facts are the secondary is not great. They generally tackle much better than years past but have serious breakdowns in coverage several times per game. Hopefully that doesn’t result in issues in a game that matters. Guess we’ll see.

You don't seem to enjoy watching the Cats all that much, interacting with other Bobcat fans, or the town the Cats hail from.

What would you say ... ya do here?

[BelligerentBobcat]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?

Now that you mentioned it, I was wondering the same.

Call on the field was a fumble. Could have challenged it but the reviews we saw it was sketchy if there was enough to overturn. I agree with both of you I think he was down but what the call on the field plays a major role in Big Sky review chances.

If you spent any time over the weekend watching FBS, its pretty clear that the replay system is totally & completely broken.

I never wanted replay. I'm curious how you would fix it.

Honestly, I'm not sure. In the Miami-VT game, the replay overturned a Hail Mary TD without ANY evidence (at least that we could see on TV)...similar to the end of the SDSU-MSU game last season.

Other than teaching what "incontrovertible evidence" means, I'm not really sure. It seems to work fine in the NFL.

The TD that never should’ve been called a touchdown because the ball was bobbling and no one player had clear possession of the ball?

I’m convinced they called it a TD so they could review it (can’t review it if it’s not a TD) and then correctly called it incomplete. Perhaps not the right process, but 100% the correct call.

[BleedingBLue]

Vigen was mad at half about refs. That series ISU called TO on 4th down I believe then Cats called TO. ISU tried to call another and I don't think you can.Refs stopped play then said couldn't take TO but play clock reset essentially giving more time. Should that have been a delay of game penalty. Maybe they choose to kick FG if that is called properly?

I could be wrong but if you stop play trying to take a timeout you don't have, its a penalty and loss of down. Experts should fill me in on this though but I thought that's what I remembered from one game where this exact situation happened. Then I would definitely understand why the coaches were upset.

Getting confirmation from a fellow official, but I believe it should have resulted in a delay of game penalty. No loss of down though as it's a dead ball foul. Even with no penalty being assessed the play clock should not have been reset. Just poor officiating all around that play.

[MSU01]

Vigen was mad at half about refs. That series ISU called TO on 4th down I believe then Cats called TO. ISU tried to call another and I don't think you can.Refs stopped play then said couldn't take TO but play clock reset essentially giving more time. Should that have been a delay of game penalty. Maybe they choose to kick FG if that is called properly?

I could be wrong but if you stop play trying to take a timeout you don't have, its a penalty and loss of down. Experts should fill me in on this though but I thought that's what I remembered from one game where this exact situation happened. Then I would definitely understand why the coaches were upset.

Getting confirmation from a fellow official, but I believe it should have resulted in a delay of game penalty. No loss of down though as it's a dead ball foul. Even with no penalty being assessed the play clock should not have been reset. Just poor officiating all around that play.

Correct. This happened in the Sunday night NFL game this past weekend. The Ravens had an injured player and were assessed an injury timeout, then when Buffalo lined up for its next play the Ravens coach tried to call another timeout and was flagged for Delay of Game.

[onceacat]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?

Now that you mentioned it, I was wondering the same.

Call on the field was a fumble. Could have challenged it but the reviews we saw it was sketchy if there was enough to overturn. I agree with both of you I think he was down but what the call on the field plays a major role in Big Sky review chances.

If you spent any time over the weekend watching FBS, its pretty clear that the replay system is totally & completely broken.

I never wanted replay. I'm curious how you would fix it.

Honestly, I'm not sure. In the Miami-VT game, the replay overturned a Hail Mary TD without ANY evidence (at least that we could see on TV)...similar to the end of the SDSU-MSU game last season.

Other than teaching what "incontrovertible evidence" means, I'm not really sure. It seems to work fine in the NFL.

The TD that never should’ve been called a touchdown because the ball was bobbling and no one player had clear possession of the ball?

I’m convinced they called it a TD so they could review it (can’t review it if it’s not a TD) and then correctly called it incomplete. Perhaps not the right process, but 100% the correct call.

I didn't think it was a TD in real time. But the slo mo video was inconclusive. So the play is supposed to stand as called on the field.

Maybe we disagree about what "indisputable video evidence' means. But the rule is fine, its just that replay needs to follow the wording of "Indisputable".

[BelligerentBobcat]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?

Now that you mentioned it, I was wondering the same.

Call on the field was a fumble. Could have challenged it but the reviews we saw it was sketchy if there was enough to overturn. I agree with both of you I think he was down but what the call on the field plays a major role in Big Sky review chances.

If you spent any time over the weekend watching FBS, its pretty clear that the replay system is totally & completely broken.

I never wanted replay. I'm curious how you would fix it.

Honestly, I'm not sure. In the Miami-VT game, the replay overturned a Hail Mary TD without ANY evidence (at least that we could see on TV)...similar to the end of the SDSU-MSU game last season.

Other than teaching what "incontrovertible evidence" means, I'm not really sure. It seems to work fine in the NFL.

The TD that never should’ve been called a touchdown because the ball was bobbling and no one player had clear possession of the ball?

I’m convinced they called it a TD so they could review it (can’t review it if it’s not a TD) and then correctly called it incomplete. Perhaps not the right process, but 100% the correct call.

I didn't think it was a TD in real time. But the slo mo video was inconclusive. So the play is supposed to stand as called on the field.

Maybe we disagree about what "indisputable video evidence' means. But the rule is fine, its just that replay needs to follow the wording of "Indisputable".

The replay showed that nobody had clear possession of the ball.