The most unofficial Bobcat gameday thread - Idaho State

[Hmmmm]

Was Hawkins upset by the last TD?

https://www.idahostatejournal.com/sport ... c9393.html

The Pocatello newspaper write up mentioned some ISU players called it "bush" to score on the last play. I haven't heard anything from Hawkins about it. Teams normally take a knee when the opposing team is out of time outs and has no ability to stop the clock. ISU used a time out a play or two before and had one or two more left. All MSU did was run straight ahead. On the last play ISU looked like they were playing flag football. They had every opportunity to stop it from happening and didn't.

Maybe they needed to cover the spread??

[BleedingBLue]

Question... when Adam Jones lost his helmet and they took 10 seconds off the clock, is that new? What type of penalty is that? Chances are it was defensively caused so why is the offense penalized? I just don't remember seeing that before.

Under 2 minutes in a half, penalties and a helmet coming off an offensive player with the clock running result in a 10 second run off. I thought he took a crown of the helmet hit straight to the head though. No review of course.

[nanacat]

Question... when Adam Jones lost his helmet and they took 10 seconds off the clock, is that new? What type of penalty is that? Chances are it was defensively caused so why is the offense penalized? I just don't remember seeing that before.

Under 2 minutes in a half, penalties and a helmet coming off an offensive player with the clock running result in a 10 second run off. I thought he took a crown of the helmet hit straight to the head though. No review of course.

Thanks. I thought it was worth reviewing too but evidently not.

[rfischer94]

Secondary is bad.

Humphrey and Jones are a dangerous 1-2 punch.

You literally have no clue what you're taking about. They aren't bad. They are the best but they are avg. Tracy is throwing some darts. Nearly every big catch was contested and we won our fair share.

When a team throws as much at this, they're going to win some. They've scored 17 points...... every single team in the country would take defense that's had given up 17pts with a couple of high quality throws and catches.. like you do realize they are d1 athletes as well? They are going to make some plays

This fits. Never met a Texan who doesn’t have an overinflated sense of self righteousness.

my self righteousness isn't what we're talking about. You don't know football. Break down WHY the secondary play was bad...please enlighten my self righteous self......break down the coverage responsibilities the routes being run and then tell me the why the secondary's tech was bad....to validate your claim of "they played bad".

They had 4 bad plays and you are saying they played bad.....that has nothing to do with my self righteousness and has everything to do with your lack of football knowledge...it seems if they aren't perfect then they are bad. I stated several times they do in fact need to improve, the do need to cut down on the big plays...but they didn't play bad. They played about avg if you watch ANY games other than MSU you would know that.....so unless you can give me a full breakdown(like I have done on multiple occasions...you know to validate my statements) then there is nothing else you need to say to me....now if you would like to give that full breakdown I will be more than willing to engage in what you are seeing vs what I'm seeing.

[rfischer94]

Just finished the rewatch. Here's all I'll say about this game:

Idaho's best offense was receiving our pressure and throwing up prayers and it worked about 30% of the time. If other teams want to do that at that success rate, be my guest. We missed or dropped seven interceptable balls in this game. Several players will be kicking themselves once film review is in session.

On ISU's final drive, Hunter Hays was brought down in a pile on the goalline and Brody was at the bottom of the pile. Obviously things aren't church-like in these scrums but as Hays was getting up he stumbled trying to get his balance but then looked down at Grebe and dropped an additional knee into Brodys head. He was properly called for UC but quite frankly he should be disqualified from playing next week. That sort of ****** is how kids get hurt. End of discussion.

ISU played with a ton of confidence and despite being down 31-10 were acting like they were dominating the game. Just a weird vibe from them. We weren't at all perfect on the back end but we did what we had to do to knock some balls down. Maybe I read the stats wrong but we had zero sacks and 9 or 10 QB hits? I know fans hate that they still get those throws off but just remember those are off schedule throws that lead to turnovers, incompletions, or tough catches a majority of the time because of the pressure. That final TD throw from Tracy as he was getting sacked by Brody was an absurd throw and he made a play. Overall, I don't feel great about our corners but I like the way they compete.

Offensively, Tommy had one of those "too juiced" games as the overthrow bit him multiple times. He made an insane run with a hurdle in the 3rd qtr which didn't count due to penalty. It's just so obvious part of our full offense isn't there because Tommy is choosing not to run the ball. Even on a few scrambles he decided to throw instead of doing his Tommy thing on the ground. Its a roller coaster ride with him but you have to give him kudos for how steady he has been in the 2nd half of games. He's the captain and everyone knows it. Love that we lulled them to sleep and popped Rohan for a long TD. Great call by Walker.

If Cody Hawkins has a problem with how we played that final drive, he should do some reflecting. Post 2 minute warning we ran 3 plays and he had 2 timeouts left. Should we have just let the clock run out? Maybe there should be a buzzer between coaches when the other gives up and wants to call game? Maybe line up and stop our run game? Give me a break.

This is a rivalry or at least it should be viewed as one. Montana and Idaho have their thing but us and the Bengals have ours. Again, they were very chippy and there was a fair amount of trash talking all game from both sides. No reason we shouldn't play each other every year. Do better Big Sky.

Love winning on the road! We are a good football team that is tough to play for 4 quarters. Are we legit? Well so far we are 5-0 so that obviously means we're perfect!

Not to mention that they tried a (very bad) onside kick with the game far out of reach. To expect the Cats to take a knee in the red zone after all that happened is ridiculous.

[rfischer94]

Gotta say, so proud of the Bobcat fans. I'm sitting across the field from them but they are so AWESOME!!!

Ditto, I was ten rows up on the 48 same side as the Bobcat group and I could not see them, but I sure could hear them. Their cheers were more of group cheer than anything I heard out of the Bengals all game long. I think the Bengals cut Mony Mony short because they could tell it was building up to be extra loud.

Yeah, the fans were huge yesterday. I tried to get a tweet out about them. Maybe I did. They almost blew up that end of the half drive for ISU. Got a false start call on them on the road. How often does that happen? The only sections of the stadium that were full of fans were the two MSU fans were in, plus there were others scattered around. Leo Davis (radio commentator) also mentioned them after the game, as did Vigen, Uluilakepa and R. Jones. Games in Cheney and Portland will be interesting to see the turnout. More and more fans are learning how fun it is to go to road games.

This was my first road game ever and I honestly didn't know what to expect. It was almost as fun as a home game! I might go to Ewww... this year too. If I do I'll mos def bring the sign!

[rfischer94]

Gotta say, so proud of the Bobcat fans. I'm sitting across the field from them but they are so AWESOME!!!

Ditto, I was ten rows up on the 48 same side as the Bobcat group and I could not see them, but I sure could hear them. Their cheers were more of group cheer than anything I heard out of the Bengals all game long. I think the Bengals cut Mony Mony short because they could tell it was building up to be extra loud.

Opposing teams haven’t figured out the Mony Mony thing yet. It’s kinda funny.

I think they absolutely know about Mony Mony and they were 100% trolling us. I thought it was hilarious. They turned it into a muffled announcement of something or another but the fans kept it rolling for a few stanzas!

Weird flex when your team is down multiple scores

[BelgradeBobcat]

Alright-grumpy old man post ahead:
I'm watching the replay-and yeah I know most of our players by number, but not all of them. It'd sure be nice if we had names on the back of our jerseys like Idaho State...and most every other D-1 program in the country. It's not an ego thing for the players, it's a service to the fans-especially when all your games are on TV. Now...where's my dang roster sheet.

[coloradocat]

Alright-grumpy old man post ahead:
I'm watching the replay-and yeah I know most of our players by number, but not all of them. It'd sure be nice if we had names on the back of our jerseys like Idaho State...and most every other D-1 program in the country. It's not an ego thing for the players, it's a service to the fans-especially when all your games are on TV. Now...where's my dang roster sheet.

Alternate grumpy old man post:
We should keep names off our jerseys. It's a clean, classic look and players play for the name on the front, not the name on the back. It also encourages fans to be more invested and review the roster if they want to know who each player is on the field.

I actually agree with Belgrade in theory but like the no-name jerseys for aesthetic reasons. It's the same reason I like the all white uniform/helmet look. Too many colors and names starts looking too busy.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Alright-grumpy old man post ahead:
I'm watching the replay-and yeah I know most of our players by number, but not all of them. It'd sure be nice if we had names on the back of our jerseys like Idaho State...and most every other D-1 program in the country. It's not an ego thing for the players, it's a service to the fans-especially when all your games are on TV. Now...where's my dang roster sheet.

Alternate grumpy old man post:
We should keep names off our jerseys. It's a clean, classic look and players play for the name on the front, not the name on the back. It also encourages fans to be more invested and review the roster if they want to know who each player is on the field.

I actually agree with Belgrade in theory but like the no-name jerseys for aesthetic reasons. It's the same reason I like the all white uniform/helmet look. Too many colors and names starts looking too busy.

I really don’t think the names make a lick of difference on how the players play.

[BelgradeBobcat]

I really don’t think the names make a lick of difference on how the players play.

I don't think that's the purpose. It's to help identify the players-especially helpful when watching on TV.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I really don’t think the names make a lick of difference on how the players play.

I don't think that's the purpose. It's to help identify the players-especially helpful when watching on TV.

I was responding to the “play for the name in the front” trope.

[blueandgoldblitz]

Edited to add: If you'd like to hear coach Vigen's opinion on the secondary play today take a listen to his post game interview that Colter has posted. Pay particular attention beginning at the 3:10 minute mark, and really focus in from 3:45 - 4:10.
Just saying that BBT and coach Vigen said almost word for word the same thing.

Ok, BobcatBuiltTexan is Coach Vigen - Confirmed!
We're on to you Coach Vigen!

[BelgradeBobcat]

I really don’t think the names make a lick of difference on how the players play.

I don't think that's the purpose. It's to help identify the players-especially helpful when watching on TV.

I was responding to the “play for the name in the front” trope.

Yeah I see what you're saying. Same thing with artificial turf, stadium lights, gloves for wide receivers, plastic instead of leather helmets...

[MSU01]

I'd like to see names on the back of the jerseys as well especially when the backups start to come in and you start seeing some jersey numbers out there you've never seen before. But I can see why they don't do it for motivational reasons and also because players change jersey numbers so much these days. My main pet peeve with uniforms is when teams use weird jersey number fonts that make it hard to distinguish between a 6, 8, and 9 for example. But MSU definitely doesn't have that problem and I love the overall look the current uniforms have!

[coloradocat]

Alright-grumpy old man post ahead:
I'm watching the replay-and yeah I know most of our players by number, but not all of them. It'd sure be nice if we had names on the back of our jerseys like Idaho State...and most every other D-1 program in the country. It's not an ego thing for the players, it's a service to the fans-especially when all your games are on TV. Now...where's my dang roster sheet.

Alternate grumpy old man post:
We should keep names off our jerseys. It's a clean, classic look and players play for the name on the front, not the name on the back. It also encourages fans to be more invested and review the roster if they want to know who each player is on the field.

I actually agree with Belgrade in theory but like the no-name jerseys for aesthetic reasons. It's the same reason I like the all white uniform/helmet look. Too many colors and names starts looking too busy.

I really don’t think the names make a lick of difference on how the players play.

I agree and was just playing into the grumpy old man trope. I really just like the way the jerseys look without names.

[coloradocat]

I really don’t think the names make a lick of difference on how the players play.

I don't think that's the purpose. It's to help identify the players-especially helpful when watching on TV.

I was responding to the “play for the name in the front” trope.

Yeah I see what you're saying. Same thing with artificial turf, stadium lights, gloves for wide receivers, plastic instead of leather helmets...

Bring back leather helmets!

[AFCAT]

Edited to add: If you'd like to hear coach Vigen's opinion on the secondary play today take a listen to his post game interview that Colter has posted. Pay particular attention beginning at the 3:10 minute mark, and really focus in from 3:45 - 4:10.
Just saying that BBT and coach Vigen said almost word for word the same thing.

Ok, BobcatBuiltTexan is Coach Vigen - Confirmed!
We're on to you Coach Vigen!

I think I saw Vigen posting on BN with his phone during the game, so it must be true!

[AFCAT]

I really don’t think the names make a lick of difference on how the players play.

I don't think that's the purpose. It's to help identify the players-especially helpful when watching on TV.

I was responding to the “play for the name in the front” trope.

Yeah I see what you're saying. Same thing with artificial turf, stadium lights, gloves for wide receivers, plastic instead of leather helmets...

Bring back leather helmets!

If we are going all in, let’s tear down the new fitness center and bring back the old Gatton field too.

[CodyCat]

Was Adam Jones fumble a fumble? To me, it looked like he was down. Why wasnt that play reviewed?